New COVID variant detected in South Africa, most mutated variant so far

[left-of-center2012]

Source: Jerusalem Post

A new coronavirus variant, C.1.2, has been detected in South Africa and a number of other countries, with concerns that
it could be more infectious and evade vaccines, according to a new preprint study by South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform.

Scientists first detected C.1.2 in May 2021, finding that it was descended from C.1, which scientists found surprising as C.1 had last been detected in January. The new variant has "mutated substantially" compared to C.1 and is more mutations away from the original virus detected in Wuhan than any other Variant of Concern (VOC) or Variant of Interest (VOI) detected so far worldwide.

The study also found that the C.1.2 lineage has a mutation rate of about 41.8 mutations per year, which is nearly twice as fast as the current global mutation rate of the other variants.

While first detected in South Africa, C.1.2 has since been found in England, China, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mauritius, New Zealand, Portugal and Switzerland.



Read more: https://www.jpost.com/health-science/new-covid-variant-detected-in-south-africa-most-mutated-variant-so-far-678011

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"it could be more infectious and evade vaccines"

[raccoon]

1. Shit. Nt

[niyad]

2. Are we at all surprised?

[ananda]

5. OK, not surprising, but still horribly depressing.

I really want to see some kind of positive
conclusion to all this covid clusterfuckery.

[DemocraticPatriot]

28. "And after all the humans had expired,

global warming ceased, the planet healed itself, endangered species (non-human) made a come-back,
and no one practiced war any more. The End."



Ok, maybe that's not what you were looking for, here... lol

[Rebl2]

11. Not me

Disappointed yes😐

[Texaswitchy]

3. Becoming more like a Stephen King book.

Who thought a bunch of brain dead Republicans taking horse paste instead of a vaccine could take out the world.

[GB_RN]

6. Captain Trips. Captain Trips...

Paging Captain Trips to the white courtesy phone.


For those who aren’t familiar, “Captain Trips” is the nickname for the virus that kills off most of humanity in Stephen King’s The Stand. And yeah, I mixed in a bit of a quote from the movie Airplane…

[DemocraticPatriot]

25. I re-read 'The Stand' near the beginning of the pandemic...

Life is mimicking fiction just a bit too much, now.

[GB_RN]

26. No Kidding...

I want someone to make the world stop. I want off this ride...or better yet, make the nutters get off the ride, so that the rest of us can enjoy it.

[wackadoo wabbit]

30. I watched the movie Contagion in January 2020

As Oscar Wilde said, "Life imitates art far more than art imitates life.”

[RVN VET71]

50. Yep. Nobody expected suigenocide could be a thing

The species has just enough psychotic leaders to force us all over the cliff. Many states in the U.S. are doing quite well in terms of vaccinations and mask-wearing, and many other countries are also doing quite well. But it only takes a pocket of mouth-breathing psychos who choose a misguided notion of “freedom” over disease prevention -- and all of the work and effort of others to secure the health and safety of their citizenry goes out the window.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. A guy I knew kept referring me to the Book of Enoch

and telling me 'God is pissed and he's coming for us!'

This was not said in relation to disease, just vaguely stated, 7-8 years ago.

[bedazzled]

8. Why does god have to come?

isn't he in the neighborhood usually?

How did you keep from busting out laughing?

[ArizonaLib]

37. It seems that those waiting or expecting 'God to Come'

do not coexist with Her.

They also think starting a new war in the middle east will cause the return of Jesus.

In other words, they don't get it and they are dangerous.

If I started laughing, I'd die crying.

Good observation, Bedazzled!

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. It could be more dangerous, but so far, no evidence offered that it is.

Trying to keep a balance against hysterical click bait.

Will wait for the science.

[Texaswitchy]

10. We are all tired.

We want a normal life back.

But we will not get it because of the horse paste eaters.

[Buckeyeblue]

14. Right. But I think a great deal of pressure is about to be put on them

Corporations are going to make it uncomfortable for them to keep their jobs. They are going to have to pay significantly more for health insurance. Others in the community will not want to be around them.

Not to mention the long term impacts of eating horse paste.

[Texaswitchy]

15. I hope so.

These anti mask, anti vaccine type need to grow up.

[ArizonaLib]

38. I followed your link to your site

The daily Beatle site looks awesome! Thanks for including the link to that site from your blog site. I look forward to reading it more.

Thumbs up!

[Fiendish Thingy]

42. The Daily Beatle often has news on new releases, and other Beatles news before anyone else

Thanks for checking out my site!

[twodogsbarking]

9. Right on schedule.

[totodeinhere]

12. It was only a matter of time before this happened. Or if this turns out to be just a false

alarm in this case, another variant will almost certainly come around. And the most frustrating thing about this is that we have the power to stop new variants from arising. If we could get the whole world vaccinated we could greatly reduce the chances of new variants. But we are very far from that goal.

[madville]

20. We are going to see new variants for years, maybe decades

Vaccinating 7 billion people and then boosters every 6 months, I don't know how that happens. Plus the virus is just as likely to mutate in a vaccinated person that gets infected as it is in an unvaccinated individual and like we are seeing with Delta, the breakthrough infection rate is much higher now for vaccinated folks.

[totodeinhere]

29. No, a vaccine is not just as likely to mutate in a vaccinated person.

Please do not spread false information.

Experts say the vaccines now being distributed are effective even against the new virus variants.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-to-protect-yourself-from-new-coronavirus-variants-5094634

COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the United States are effective at protecting the American public from circulating variants of the COVID-19 virus.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/variants/

[madville]

47. Any time a virus infects a host it has the potential to mutate

That’s not misinformation or false.

Yes, the vaccines are still effective at preventing hospitalization and death, no one is arguing that. But they have become less effective at preventing infection with the Delta variant, because it’s more contagious due to its higher viral load and the effectiveness of the vaccines at preventing infection waning with time, that’s been reported everywhere the last couple of weeks.

The more people getting infected, whether vaccinated or not, the more potential hosts the virus has to mutate.

[totodeinhere]

53. That is just not true and I noticed that you did not provide a link.

So whom should I believe, reputable sources such as the ones I linked to, or you?

[madville]

58. The vaccines were more effective at preventing infection with Alpha, Beta, and Gamma

They are now less effective at preventing infection with Delta. That's exactly why the CDC reversed guidance on vaccinated people wearing masks, because the vaccines are now less effective at preventing infection and spread (but still very effective at preventing hospitalization and death).

Your linked sources are based on outdated information, for instance the first one is from January, well before Delta emerged. While it may have been more factual in January, it's not taking the new characteristics of the Delta variant into account, so much of it is incorrect now. The science is constantly shifting as we all know.

My point was that with the vaccines now less likely to prevent infection in vaccinated people due to Delta's characteristics, more infections among the vaccinated mean more hosts and more potential for mutations. A virus can mutate any time it replicates, so more infections will naturally lead to more mutations regardless if the person is vaccinated or not.

There are plenty of current articles and data from the last month talking about the increased rate of infection in the vaccinated with the Delta variant.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210819/delta-variant-still-transmissible-for-fully-vaccinated

[left-of-center2012]

13. As long as people refuse vaccination and masks ...

Covid will not go away.

Our very lives depend upon people taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

[Dakota Flint]

16. It will never happen

Mother Nature is apparently on track to eliminate the entire human race unless illuminated beings will stop this insanity!

[jarfish0]

17. Lambda vs. Delta?

Just wondering if this C.1.2 is a relative of the Lambda variant or robust mutant of Delta?
Really asking for all to be "Vaccinated!," wishful I see and it does bother me that these antivaxxers are making it even more dangerous for us all, but reality knocks on the door and says mutation's are inevitable in an aggressive virus like COVID 2.
Fauci's pattern to break really bleak news slowly and than BOO!

[madville]

19. This strain is officially designated as PANGO

per another article I read. With the breakthrough infections we are seeing in vaccinated folks with Delta, mutations will unfortunately continue to emerge regardless of people getting the current vaccine or not.

[No Vested Interest]

21. They'll run out of letters in the Greek alphabet before long, just as

happened a year or so ago with hurricane names...

[ArizonaLib]

39. Maybe they can start using the hurricane list for the variants

Just kidding - might be more appropriate to use the 40,000+ Chinese characters.

[wackadoo wabbit]

32. No, this variant doesn't have an official designation yet

It's neither a Variant of Interest nor a Variant of Concern. (And, thank whomever you want, there is no Variant of High Consequence — yet.)

Most of the variants that have been given official designations thus far are of the Pango lineage.

[orleans]

18. just. fucking. great.

[ashredux]

22. Oh my....On The Beach in reality...

[left-of-center2012]

23. That was about the aftermath of a nuclear war

I would think Stephen King's The Stand.

[ashredux]

24. Yes....I know...it was the similarities to end of the human race...

On The Beach was FINAL

[sdfernando]

51. If Raccoon City comes into this we are screwn! /nt

[IronLionZion]

27. I wouldn't be surprised if there are new American variants we don't know about

considering how many cases we have here and how many Americans are trying to spread it around as much as they can.

[Bengus81]

40. Yeah...probably the Sturgis21 variant

Coming soon.........

[llashram]

46. +++

"I been sayin' it"...to all who would care.

[aggiesal]

31. CDC said that we were 2 maybe 3 variants away ...

from vaccines being useless and we'd have to start over with
determining a new vaccine, however long that takes.

They were not far off. Lambda now SA C.1.2 variant.

[left-of-center2012]

33. Can you find and post a link to that?

About having to start over with a new vaccine.

[aggiesal]

34. It was on an MSNBC news show during an interview ...

about a couple of weeks ago.

I don't have a link to it.

[left-of-center2012]

36. Ok

Just some tv's talking head's opinion.
Thanks

[aggiesal]

44. A CDC talking head. n/t

[LanternWaste]

48. Kinda like yours?

"Just some tv's talking head's opinion..."

Thanks.

[left-of-center2012]

49. Please -- no personal attacks

You win a spot on my 'Ignore' list.

[obamanut2012]

54. There isn't a link, because it's not true

I don't mean the poster is lying, but they probably just heard some pundit say it. The CDC has never stated that, nor WHO.

[chia]

55. The poster was correct, it was CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky who stated to reporters in July:

"Right now, fortunately, we are not there. These vaccines operate really well in protecting us from severe disease and death. But the big concern is the next area that might emerge, just a few mutations potentially away, could potentially evade our vaccines."

[vercetti2021]

43. How many until lethality ticks up?

Give it time, it'll become extremely deadlier and will kill faster and easier if it keeps mutating

[chia]

56. You heard correctly, just wanted you to know. I posted the quote below, but just in case:

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, July 27, 2021:

"Right now, fortunately, we are not there. These vaccines operate really well in protecting us from severe disease and death. But the big concern is the next area that might emerge, just a few mutations potentially away, could potentially evade our vaccines."

[aggiesal]

57. Thank you. n/t

[DanieRains]

35. Maybe We Could Take Some Of The Trillions Mankind Spends On Weapons And Use The Money

For something better than killing each other?

Worldwide vaccines?

Carbon free economies?

Sequestration?

Re-forestation.

Nah.

Extinction is far more likely....

[marie999]

41. Humans will not become extinct from the virus.

After enough of us die, the rest of humanity will be spread thin so the virus will not be able to mutate. There will still be humans left that are immune. The question is, will it be the virus or climate change that bring about the restoration of the Earth first.

[llashram]

45. are these

mutations normal. These viruses detect an agent in a body to defeat it. Does the virus then mutate to protect itself with a more virulent strain?

[Texaswitchy]

52. When I read The Stand I knew it could happen.

Just like in the book humanity split into good and bad.

We are doing this.

This was one of many reasons I stock up on extra food all the time.

Put solar on the roof and the yard.

Even bought the house.

My yard has a water pump with a hand pump.

I have a water well.

Good water.

The house was part of a farm a long time ago.

No city water.

The well was kept up over the years.

[RussBLib]

59. time to fire up Pfizer, Moderna, et al. on new vaccines

no time to waste