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BumRushDaShow

(128,878 posts)
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:20 PM Aug 2021

Biden defended his decisions in Afghanistan, saying the choice was "between leaving or escalating."

Source: New York Times



WASHINGTON — President Biden on Tuesday hailed what he called the “extraordinary success” of the evacuation of Kabul as he vehemently defended his decision to end America’s war in Afghanistan, just one day after the end of a two-week rescue of 125,000 people from Kabul that saw the deaths of 13 service members.Speaking from the Cross Hall at the White House, Mr. Biden said the nation owed a debt of gratitude to the troops who died in the evacuation mission.

“Thirteen heroes gave their lives,” he said in a speech in which he offered no apologies for either his decision to end the war or the way in which his administration executed that mission. “We owe them and their families a debt of gratitude we can never repay, but we should never, ever, ever forget.” Mr. Biden appeared intent on forcefully rejecting criticism of the end of the 20-year war in Afghanistan, offering a defensive recounting of his decision-making and blaming former President Donald J. Trump for negotiating a bad deal with the Taliban that boxed Mr. Biden and his team in.

“That was the choice, the real choice between leaving or escalating,” Mr. Biden declared, his tone angry and defensive as he opened the first minutes of his remarks. “I was not going to extend this forever war.” Before Mr. Biden’s speech, Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, had said the president would “lay out his decision to end the war in Afghanistan after 20 years, including the tough decisions he made over the last seven months since he took office to bring the war to a close,” she said. “He will make clear that as president, he will approach our foreign policy through the prism of what is in our national interests, including how best to continue to keep the American people safe.”

Ms. Psaki also said that the president would thank commanders and service members “who executed a dangerous mission in Kabul and airlifted more than 124,000 people to safety; he will also offer thanks to the veterans and volunteers who supported this effort.” The president delivered his remarks almost 20 years after the United States ousted the Taliban from power in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, and just a day after the last American troops and diplomats departed the country, which is once again under Taliban rule.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/31/world/afghanistan-news/biden-defended-his-decisions-in-afghanistan-saying-the-choice-was-between-leaving-or-escalating

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Biden defended his decisions in Afghanistan, saying the choice was "between leaving or escalating." (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 OP
It seems like every week I'm left thinking, "that was his best speech ever." Damn, he did it again!! George II Aug 2021 #1
He's giving the US a chance for a major reset, which I hope they can take. OnDoutside Aug 2021 #2
Plus he had an incredible amount of gravitas and firmness BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #4
Hah, you saw that! What I really like about him is that he's been around long enough and has been.. George II Aug 2021 #6
I know I have posted before BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #13
+1 K&R!! onetexan Aug 2021 #10
That was a great speech. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #3
I was listening to it on the radio and streaming it on the laptop BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #5
+1 George II Aug 2021 #7
Great description. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #14
That was "Dad Biden" BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #16
With his aviators on. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #18
Especially when he does one of these BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #20
... sheshe2 Aug 2021 #21
War profiteers will have to find another war to further enrich themselves at our expense. sop Aug 2021 #8
Biden just killed off MSM's 2 cash cows. Trump & the endless war. Budi Aug 2021 #9
Agree x1000 Dopers_Greed Aug 2021 #11
Dayum. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #15
Here's David Rothkopf's most glowing response to POTUS' speech onetexan Aug 2021 #12
I think the most difficult part of this evacuation was the strength Steelrolled Aug 2021 #17
Thank you, President Biden! Mysterian Aug 2021 #19
A real president & a real leader! deizo Aug 2021 #22
I'd like to welcome you to DU. NNadir Sep 2021 #23
thank you! deizo Sep 2021 #24

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. It seems like every week I'm left thinking, "that was his best speech ever." Damn, he did it again!!
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:25 PM
Aug 2021

When it come to critics and detractors, he's been around long enough that he can just say "I just don't give a fuck anymore, I'm going to do what's right and move on!"

BumRushDaShow

(128,878 posts)
4. Plus he had an incredible amount of gravitas and firmness
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:39 PM
Aug 2021

perfectly reflecting what many of us have been feeling - ENOUGH!!

(i.e., what you posted in GD... )

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Hah, you saw that! What I really like about him is that he's been around long enough and has been..
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:50 PM
Aug 2021

...through everything anyone else has been through so he just doesn't care anymore. His "legacy" is cast, there's little he can do to add to it. He simply wants to do the right thing, regardless of what people will say - on both the other side AND his own side.

BumRushDaShow

(128,878 posts)
13. I know I have posted before
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 05:32 PM
Aug 2021

that people forget that he was in the Senate from 1972 - 2008. And when 9/11 happened, he was the Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that had jurisdiction regarding what was happening overseas including the AUMF for both Afghanistan and Iraq and access to all the intelligence. He has been there multiple times. Then add to that 8 years as VP (including the time when Bin Laden was taken out). So he has a deep deep knowledge about what was going on behind the scenes.

BumRushDaShow

(128,878 posts)
5. I was listening to it on the radio and streaming it on the laptop
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:41 PM
Aug 2021

(was trying to make some coffee)

It was excellent and I'd say he was pissed but being "diplomatic" about being pissed.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
14. Great description.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 05:35 PM
Aug 2021

He really wanted to say:

Shaaad-dup. Sit down and listen to me! This was a big fucking deal and I had the balls to do it.

sop

(10,162 posts)
8. War profiteers will have to find another war to further enrich themselves at our expense.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:53 PM
Aug 2021

Biden: "In the 20 years since September 11, 2001, the United States has spent more than $2 trillion on the war in Afghanistan. That’s $300 million dollars per day, every day, for two decades" (Forbes Magazine). Keep repeating that number over and over whenever anyone argues we should have continued this boondoggle.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
9. Biden just killed off MSM's 2 cash cows. Trump & the endless war.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 05:10 PM
Aug 2021



Cable news is double-pissed at Biden for killing off their largest cash cow - Trump - and their second largest - endless war.

Big Biden putting Tang the Conqueror on blast for the shitty agreement signed in February 2020 and the 5000 Taliban fighters released as part of the deal. Says the real choice came down to honoring the agreement by leaving or staying and escalating the 20 year old war.



Thank You President Joe Biden


 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
17. I think the most difficult part of this evacuation was the strength
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:08 PM
Aug 2021

to just keep going in the face of adversity. It was a "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" moment. Other than the clone strikes at the end (not a big issue) he did the best job possible.

But what we have to remember is the bigger picture: the total failure of this war and the corresponding foreign policy. The same story with our involvement in Syria. May we now leave Iraq completely and as soon as possible.

Mysterian

(4,585 posts)
19. Thank you, President Biden!
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:08 PM
Aug 2021

From an infantry combat veteran, thanks for getting us out of that shit-show.

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