Witness: Taliban hang dead body in Afghan city's main square

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The Taliban hanged a dead body from a crane in the main square of Herat city in western Afghanistan, a witness said Saturday, in a gruesome display that signaled a return to some of the Taliban’s methods of the past.

Wazir Ahmad Seddiqi, who runs a pharmacy on the side of the square, told The Associated Press that four bodies were brought to the main square and three bodies were moved to other parts of the city for public display.

Seddiqi said the Taliban announced in the square that the four were caught taking part in a kidnapping and were killed by police.

Ziaulhaq Jalali, a Taliban appointed district police chief in Herat, said later that Taliban members rescued a father and son who had been abducted by four kidnappers after an exchange of gunfire. He said a Taliban fighter and a civilian were wounded by the kidnappers but “the four (kidnappers) were killed in crossfire.”



People look up at a dead body hanged by the Taliban from a crane in the main square of Herat city in western Afghanistan, on Saturday Sept. 29, 2021. A witness told The Associated Press that the bodies of four men were brought to the main square and three of them were moved to other parts of the city for public display. The Taliban announced in the square that the four were caught taking part in a kidnapping and were killed by police. (AP Photo)


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[Farmer-Rick]

1. Religion doing what it does best

Creating fear in order to control people.

[Fullduplexxx]

2. Religion didnt do this

[paleotn]

6. Well, it sure as hell wasn't agnostics.

[PatrickforB]

9. The religion itself? Perhaps not. But extremist zealots, fanatics within the religion?

Oh yeah.

And you don't have to go too very far to see what they will look like here if the dominionist 'christians' get their way. If they make the United States a theocracy, there will be a new inquisition like we've never seen.

[Roy Rolling]

23. Guns, guns, and more guns

The idiots with the most guns rule, just like the idiots in the U.S.want today.

Guns and violence are their religion, it’s just there are different faiths (jihadists/MAGAs) the same as there are different faiths like a Baptist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc.

All worshiping power and violence, masquerading as religiosity to fool the dullheaded.

[JI7]

28. Yes,it did. Let's not deny religion is used to justify this shit

[Fullduplexxx]

32. No It did not . Like you said religion is used ... that chip on your shoulder is blinding you

[JI7]

33. So you admit religion was used and then deny it has anything to do with religion

ok.........

[Fullduplexxx]

34. No YOU said religion is used . I said religion didnt do this

The chip on your shoulder is blinding you

[JI7]

35. seriously trying to say the Taliban has nothing to do with religion

HAHAHah

[Fullduplexxx]

39. Laugh it up all you want I said religion didnt do this and it didnt

[AZ8theist]

43. WRONG.

An extremist interpretation of the Koran was DIRECTLY RESPOSIBLE for the abhorrent brutality.

It is why the Taliban keep their women in bags.
It is why they cut off the hands of thiefs.
It is why they stone to death the "impure" or those guilty of ??
It is why they conducted executions in packed soccer stadiums.
It is why their women are treated as property.
It is why the blow up and destroy irreplaceable ancient historical artifacts.
It is why they gang-rape girls who aren't "pure" on their wedding night or caught cavorting with the wrong tribe.

IT IS EXACTLY RELIGION THAT CAUSES THIS.

DENY IT ALL YOU WANT, BUT EXTREME ISLAM, LIKE AMERICAN EVANGELICALISM IS A DEATH CULT ON HUMANITY.

[Fullduplexxx]

45. You have the same problem the other poster has. Religion didnt do this

[Ray Bruns]

47. Denial is not a river in Egypt.

[jimfields33]

4. Nope. Not religion but a crazy government

However, the Afghan population seemed to want this due to the complete destruction of the military and run away politicians. So hopefully during future elections they will remember some of these actions and vote carefully.

[EX500rider]

24. "So hopefully during future elections" The Taliban won't be having any elections. nt

[jimfields33]

25. Maybe maybe not. We have no idea what the Afghan population will put up with

[atreides1]

30. Yes we do

The people of Afghanistan will do the same thing they did after the Russians left...nothing!!!

The Taliban didn't have elections before the US and allies invaded...and they don't plan to have elections now...and the Afghan people will go along to get along!!!

[COL Mustard]

41. They'll Do What They Have To Do To Survive

I really pity the women, girls and minority populations of Afghanistan. They will have a very hard time under this barbaric regime.

[Duncan Grant]

7. There's nothing abstruse about your post; your meaning is clear.

The evidence suggests you’re onto something — but for the sake of argument, can we agree religious fundamentalists/extremists/opportunists use fear as a ‘motivator’. As a gay person, I can say quite a bit about how religion creates otherness — and the sanctions it imposes on adherents who violate its teachings about who does and does not deserve an unimpeded life. Not to mention religious leadership — and its corruption.

Conversely, there are many *individuals* who live beneficent spiritual lives.

So yeah, religion. I get it.

[hot2na]

22. This is an every day occurrence in Saudi Arabia

So why is this news now and not the every day reality of the Saudi's? Oh because Saudi Arabia bowed down to kiss the orange shit stains ass, and they buy $$$$ US weapons enriching their Republican friends in and out of the Carlisle Group. Thats why.

[EX500rider]

26. The Saudi's hang already dead bodies in their squares? And every day?

[JI7]

27. Saudi Arabia sucks but not on the level of Afghanistan

women can get educated there and have jobs.

[jcmaine72]

36. Is it all religions, or just specific ones?

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I don't see Taoist or Shintoists, for example, anywhere in the world, hanging corpses upside down in public with the express purpose of terrorizing people into compliance.

With that in mind, isn't that kind of a broad brush you're using there?

[Farmer-Rick]

40. True not all religions

But most religions create some amount of fear. Just by creating a hell or selective heavenly afterlife to threaten people with is a way of controlling people even if they don't hang dead bodies.

But yeah, there are a few religions that exist, or use to exist, that don't offer a hell or a selective afterlife and that don't purposely create fear.

So, why are these nonviolent religions so rare?

[jcmaine72]

42. But are they?

Even within the specific religions that seem to bring out the beheading avenger in some of its adherents, aren't the majority still nonviolent?

Again, that's an awfully broad brush to use. I firmly believe it's okay to condemn specific individuals or groups of individuals who use religion as an excuse to murder. But making sweeping generalizations about All religions and, by extension, all believers in religion simply because we're afraid to condemn specific groups within specific religions because of how it might make us look is silly.

There's absolutely nothing bigoted, racist, Islamophobic, xenophobic, Trumpist or hateful about condemning the Taliban specifically for their savage barbarism, rank misogyny and brutal inhumanity....and we can do it without feeling somehow obligated by guilt, political expedience, or fashion to lump ALL adherents of every other organized religion in with them.

[underpants]

3. And we were THIS CLOSE to making real change there

20 years is a blip in time. We should have stayed another 50 or so spending $300M a day.

[jimfields33]

5. I'm glad we didn't. The Afghan population

will have to figure out how they want to be governed. Clearly they hated the United States and their past government being involved. All we can do is wish them well.

[PatrickforB]

10. That's right! And this policy would also help out the health insurance and

big pharma lobbies, for sure. Because we can never afford universal healthcare that is not tied to employment if we are throwing that kind of money at forever wars!

Profits were always the objective. Look at all those expensive weapons that were bought and used! Gosh, we lined lots of pockets! We did. Those MIC shareholders were HAPPY.

[LiberalArkie]

11. If the U.S. had never gone to Afghanistan - the people living there may have overthrown the Taliban

If we had never supplied the Mujahideen with modern weapons when they were fighting the Russians they would never have advanced from the flintlocks they got when fighting the British.

Which means we would have never financed Bin Laden.

[Sapient Donkey]

46. Had the Soviets not invaded in '79....

I think more than anything that might be the biggest player. Even if the US didn't provide stingers to the Afghan fighters, it's hard to imagine how the Soviets would have had totally fixed Afghanistan in the 80's. It wasn't just a few helicopters and jets being shot down in Afghanistan that caused the Soviet Union to collapse. At some point the Soviets would have left and things would have likely played out in a similar fashion during the Afghan civil war during the 90's.

[PatrickforB]

8. Of course they are going back to 'the way things were.'

This is exactly what the dominionist 'christians' will do in the United States if we give them the chance. Look at TX.

[JohnnyRingo]

12. I'll say one thing for Taliban rule.

The national crime rate should drop precipitously.

The problem with the Taliban are their arcane, outdated, and cruel laws, not so much how they carry out punishment.

[marble falls]

13. How is that crane any more barbaric than lethal injection, electric chairs, gas, firing squads?

At least this was a criminal caught in a violent act, who shot it out with the cops first.

If we are going to have the state do murder in our name, I want the body displayed so the "law and order" types can get to see exactly what it is we get when we get what we want from murdering 'criminals'.

[oldsoftie]

14. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. nt

[Hortensis]

16. What's so awful about authorities rescuing two people from kidnappers?

We may not approve of capital punishment, but it's practiced in many nations. And I don't see hanging the bodies of executed criminals in public squares as all that much worse than disposing of them in private. More a cultural than religious difference. Maybe if we still did more people would vote against it, if only so they didn't have to be confronted with its reality.

JRingo's right, of course. Last time the Taliban was in charge the very high crime dropped dramatically and remained low. For obvious reasons. Crime rates had risen very high again, so no doubt AP will be reporting more bodies hanging in squares.

[maxsolomon]

19. Displaying corpses as a warning to the populace was normal in 99% of human history.

The Taliban has some gall, since they kidnapped and extorted ('taxed') to fund their operations for 20 years.

[Hortensis]

20. Yes. But not gall, virtue! Everything's different when righteous people do it.

I suppose my attitude toward public display of bodies is lessened by my feelings about my own body. Don't really care what happens to it once I'm gone, and I'd be really entertained if it it turned up hanging in an Afghani square.

Now, our hands while we still need them? Pure horror.

[Steelrolled]

37. Yeah, I don't get all of the outrage over the Taliban.

Perhaps it is anger that they outlasted America in Afghanistan.

[Hortensis]

38. Funny. I did differentiate between execution of violent criminals

and others the international community considers tragic victims. The Taliban has already started executing others for victimless (except themselves) religious and cultural crimes and promises an ongoing stream.

[Ray Bruns]

48. And if you believe the taliban story,

I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn, NY.

[mbusby]

17. Henry the 8th...

..would have had their heads on poles.

[Dopers_Greed]

18. If only Biden hadn't been elected...

With a few more decades and trillions of $, Trump would have achieved total peace. Believe me, Afghanistan would be so peaceful and eliminated radical Islam. Big league.

[marble falls]

21. What's nuts is that there are a solid 30% of the nation who believe that!

[Mr.Bill]

29. If I had to be honest about it,

There are quite a few people I would pay to see hanging dead in the public square here.

[Wingus Dingus]

31. Well, isn't that fun.

[Evolve Dammit]

44. MAGA. Making Afghanistan Great Again. Bringing back the good old days. Hanging corpses after torture