Biden's approval slumps after a slew of crises: AP-NORC poll
Source: AP
By JOSH BOAK and EMILY SWANSON
WASHINGTON (AP) President Joe Bidens popularity has slumped after a slew of challenges in recent weeks at home and abroad for the leader who pledged to bring the country together and restore competence in government, according to a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.
Fifty percent now say they approve of Biden, while 49% disapprove. Fifty-four percent approved in August, and 59% did in July. The results come as Americans process the harried and deadly evacuation from Afghanistan, mounted border patrol agents charging at Haitian refugees, the unshakable threat of the coronavirus with its delta variant and the legislative drama of Biden trying to negotiate his economic, infrastructure and tax policies through Congress.
Since July, Bidens approval rating has dipped slightly among Democrats (from 92% to 85%) and among independents who dont lean toward either party (from 62% to 38%). Just 11% of Republicans approve of the president, which is similar to July.
Approval also dipped somewhat among both white Americans (49% to 42%) and Black Americans (86% to 64%).
In this Sept. 24, 2021 photo, President Joe Biden listens during the Quad summit in the East Room of the White House. President Joe Biden's popularity has slumped with half of Americans now approving and half disapproving of his leadership. That's according to a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Mustellus
(328 posts).. they have worked so hard to please their masters, ignoring Trump and blaming Biden, going 24/7 when a pretty blonde lady goes missing and never ever mentioning the Trump sedition memo... and all they got was a few measly percentage points.
You do know that not one TV news channel is owned by a poor person, right?
JohnSJ
(91,951 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:54 PM - Edit history (1)
January 6th insurrection
After what the populous did in 2016, I have very little faith in humanity
I think we have more concerns than the debt ceiling. That another trump could actually gain power again should worry everyone.
Polybius
(15,238 posts)Are you saying the 11% of Republicans who support Biden supported January 6th? I highly doubt it, these are the extreme RINO's of the Party. They hate Trump and usually vote Democrat.
BumRushDaShow
(127,301 posts)I bet 90% of "Americans" can't even find Afganistan on a map, so there is NOTHING to "process" regarding that area of the world. They ARE "processing" what happens with their kids in school or the cost of things going up due to a supply chain problem due to a pandemic that was fed and exasperated by a previous administration.
This obsession that the media has with Afghanistan after 20 years spent keeping that story pumped up, is now truly OTT.
They find it truly "boring" when actual scandal- and outrage-free GOVERNANCE is happening.
JohnSJ
(91,951 posts)was happening in Afghanistan, and the civilians being killed.
Which is exactly what you are saying, and what it says is we are a nation of sheep, told what to believe by some talking head on a box
BumRushDaShow
(127,301 posts)is trying to reverse-engineer some kind of higher level of "importance" to Afghanistan - if anything almost like a punishment for taking away a segment of their employees' designated assignments - the foreign correspondents.
It's just like last year when things around the country were in lockdown and the professional sports teams cancelled their entire schedules, and the first ones to incessantly whine "Are we there yet? Are we THERE yet? ARE THERE YET???" and then later shout - "OPEN UP!! OPEN UP!!!" were the sports reporters and color analysts.
ETA to add the poll graph and you can see the question skew right off the bat -
JohnSJ
(91,951 posts)correlate necessarily with how someone will do in an election
Midnight Writer
(21,546 posts)JohnSJ
(91,951 posts)BumRushDaShow
(127,301 posts)but they want to "sway the public" by promoting these cherry-picked topics as being some kind of "focus" by "the public".
They include more granular questions that ARE subsets of "Foreign policy" like "Relationships with U.S. allies", "Immigration" and "The situation in Afghanistan", making them "standalone" topics rather than keeping them under "Foreign policy".
They could have easily broken up "Climate change" into smaller categories in the same manner they did with "Foreign policy" or even included topics like "The Environment" as a category (which was NOT one of the questions asked), where much activity has gone on with respect to health and safety of people and workers, including bringing back emissions standards and other environmental impact regulations that were cavalierly tossed aside.
They could have also added "Clean energy" as a topic or even "Healthcare", but again, they preferred to focus on the GOP-themed topics and subtopics instead.
karynnj
(59,475 posts)Elections are the choice between 2 (or more) choices of people to hold a position. Approval is a point in time estimation of whether when pushed to approve or disapprove, how they chose.
Even near the point of an election, it is entirely possible for someone to "disapprove" of the candidate they intend to vote for. (To make it less personal for Democrats, consider the Buchanan wing of the Republican party, which was against the Iraq War -- making some of them "disapprove" of GWB. Their disapproval was real, but it was also pretty clear that they would vote and they would vote for Bush. They would have done so against any Democrat.)
It is also interesting that he is still at 50% overall. To me, based on absolutely no facts, I suspect that this is a sign that as the negative Afghanistan and immigration stories fade, he will likely move up on those accounts or they will be less a factor in the top line approval. One warning sign is the gigantic shift of the independents. The slippage for Democrats is less concerning as - like the far right in 2004, they likely are Democrats who while not thrilled with Biden, will choose him (or the Democrat) over the Trumpian alternative.
Wingus Dingus
(8,049 posts)no one gave a shit for so long, and most Americans aside from military circles forgot about it.
BumRushDaShow
(127,301 posts)After the hubris after Obama pulled us out of Iraq, I think the only thing that has managed to be a loud enough "signal" to drown out the "foreign war" shill noise, is the pandemic. It has literally impacted the world, including the decisions to continue far-flung involvements in the civil wars of other countries.
And then when you have an outsized chunk of your own military not wanting to voluntarily get vaccinated - then requiring a "mandate", you know where things stand on that front.
Back in February, nearly 1/3rd of our own miliary refused it -
17 Feb 2021
Military.com | By Patricia Kime
More than two-thirds of U.S. service members offered the COVID-19 vaccine have opted to receive it -- but the high rate of troops turning it down has lawmakers voicing grave concerns. Speaking before the House Armed Services Committee on Wednesday, Defense officials, including Air Force Maj. Gens. Jeff Taliaferro, vice director for operations on the Joint Chiefs, and Steven Nordhaus, director of operations with the National Guard Bureau, said the vaccine acceptance rate for troops is, on average, between 66% and 70%.
Taliaferro added that the rate "varies by different groups," but vaccine refusal has not affected deployability because the military has adapted to working in a pandemic environment. "The services and the combatant commands have worked very hard over the last year to make sure we can operate in a COVID environment well before the vaccines were available," he said during testimony. "The addition of the vaccine should make us more capable." According to Taliaferro, the Defense Department has distributed 506,000 shots, including 147,000 second doses to service members.
Taliaferro did not provide reasons why one-third of U.S. service members offered the vaccine -- mainly those in high-risk jobs such as health care, security personnel, those in positions vital to national security and those about to deploy -- declined it.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/02/17/almost-one-third-of-us-troops-are-refusing-covid-vaccines-officials-say.html
And it's still apparently a struggle to get it done, although there is now a mandate -
Military COVID-19 deaths continue to spike but no fatalities among fully vaccinated
By Meghann Myers
Thursday, Sep 16
(snip)
DoDs latest count shows that 51 percent of the active-duty and reserve components are fully vaccinated, with another 16 percent having received the first of a two-dose vaccination.
The numbers show that reserve and National Guard troops are far less likely to be vaccinated than their active-duty counterparts, 88 percent of whom have had at least one dose of a vaccine, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters Wednesday.
The Navy is leading the services in vaccinations, by a lot. As of Wednesday, 83 percent of their active-duty force, 78 percent of the total fleet, is fully vaccinated. By contrast, 69 percent of the active-duty Air Force and Space Force are fully vaccinated, with 65 percent of their reservists and Guardsmen.
(snip)
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/09/16/military-covid-19-deaths-continue-to-spike-but-no-deaths-among-fully-vaccinated/
(the Air Force and Space Force recently reported a higher vax rate now as of a couple days ago - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/09/29/94-air-force-vaccine-reluctance-falls-away-deadline-approaches.html)
So all this focus on "Afghanistan" as a "priority" when you have a military who is vulnerable to pathogens, is out of line.
Wingus Dingus
(8,049 posts)(Speaking as a wife of a retired military member) You're there to be a war fighter, or to support the war fighters, and they have always made sure you are in peak health to get it done. Vaccines, dental appointments, fitness standards, involuntary medical separations when you can no longer serve in your role. Allowing them to choose whether or not to get the vaccination for ANY length of time was a mistake, once it was determined to be safe and that sick elderly people in nursing homes weren't dropping dead from it.
BumRushDaShow
(127,301 posts)As many vets I have known over the years have noted - they just line them all up and give them their shots and that's that.
Hell, if I was going overseas - even as a tourist and especially in places that are remote and/or not as developed, I would want as much protection as I could get beforehand.
Takket
(21,424 posts)Yeah Afghanistan hurt too but people arent getting the leftist agenda they were promised because of the two persons I mentioned. The next few days are critical to getting the presidency back on track.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,154 posts)This is going Sinema's way, just like she, and her GOP handlers drew it up. Her job was to cause as much disarray as she can in the Democratic party. Evidenced by her refusal to even produce any demands. She's also giving Manchin a lot of cover. It would be harder to sustain his rebellion if he didn't have Sinema on his side. I'm sure that was part of the plan.
I think the Arizona Democratic party should start to see her as this now. And punish her more. They should be treating her like a turn coat. And be actively promoting a replacement. They should be putting pressure on her biggest donors. Stripping her of all leadership positions. Censure her if that is an option.
ananda
(28,782 posts)to deflect their own blame.
snort
(2,334 posts)Lasher
(27,500 posts)And the real question is, can he beat Trump in 2024? These polls reflect likely popular votes, but as we all know it's the electoral vote that counts. It's hard to imagine how Trump could beat Biden while losing in Florida:
Some of the Republicans' support is bleeding to third parties.
A poll of Florida voters shows Donald Trump, nine months after winning Floridas electoral votes, would lose the state today.
A St. Pete Polls survey commissioned by Florida Politics indicates Florida voters, right now, favor sitting President Joe Biden 48% to 47% of voters in Trumps adopted home state.
Bidens less-than-a-percentage-point edge certainly falls within the polls 2.2% margin of effort. Results of the poll, conducted on Monday and Tuesday this week, include responses from 2,068 registered voters, weighted for active voter demographics.
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/451231-poll-donald-trump-could-lose-florida-to-joe-biden-if-election-were-held-today/
Pardon me for waxing anecdotal, but there's former Trump voters who would never vote for him again. Most people have short memories, but a few of my GOP friends will not forget the attempted coup of January 6.
cadoman
(792 posts)This is going to be the most difficult time of his presidency, and he had a lot of work to do after TFG left. This is the same situation Obama was in after Bush left: cleanup after the prior administration and then move things forward.
Lasher
(27,500 posts)According to the [link:http://|RCP average].
underpants
(182,274 posts)* done if it is deserved but he aint Fing Trump is he?
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Once they get these bills passed, and Covid lessens in all but the reddest areas, he will stabilize just fine.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)To destroy this fine man, its no surprise his numbers have slumped.
bucolic_frolic
(42,672 posts)calling Joe the devil, but it spelled it "Saton"
So we have a new Morans!
bluewater
(5,376 posts)But the polls have a lot of time to change and will.
I firmly believe that Joe Biden will go down as one of our most transformative and successful Presidents if we, as Democrats, implement his agenda.
maxrandb
(15,189 posts)I will take 50% approval, especially when you consider that 8-10% of those that "disapprove", would vote for Joe over ANY Donnie Dipshit Retrumplican on the ballot.
deizo
(59 posts)It's mostly Manchin and Sinema fault if they would just stop blocking Biden's agenda his approval would be much higher! Don't forget the attack in Afghanistan was only a month ago!
ancianita
(35,812 posts)Hour by hour, day by day, with chronic badgering of Jen Psaki
Moebym
(989 posts)Politics is a game of football to them, and scores that are lopsided in favor of one team don't make for exciting viewing.
Lulu KC
(2,547 posts)tailored to occupy a population with such an elevated entertainment threshold after the previous four years that they actually have to make things up in headlines.
This is a big argh. ARGH!
I'M WITH JOE!
Marthe48
(16,691 posts)that they are trying to clear. The U.S. evacuated over 100,000 people from Afghanistan. The Biden administration is valiantly fighting the worst plague in a 100 years. An economy eroded by poor decisions. Justice attacked and undermined by poor choices put on the bench, and good choices ignored or blocked. Constant lying and obstruction by r's. Constant undermining authority. Constant attack on the right to vote. Previous administration, with putin's advice and help, threw as many obstacles that they could think of to block any and all paths to smooth governing. Christ, we can't even mail a letter right now. Every day is another day of dealing with the malicious incompetence that has continued for a decade or more.
Previous administration was operated by Animal House rejects on a drunk. Because of them, the ship of state suffered a mutiny, and Americans loyal to our country are waiting to see if anyone is going to walk the plank, or hang from the yardarms.
Because of the constant war of nerves waged by our media, who subtly, or not so subtly, support r's and denigrate Dems, it is no wonder people so used to instant gratification are having trouble keeping the faith. But hang in there. Right is might, and we will overcome. GOTV!