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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 12:56 PM Oct 2021

NYC Teachers Ask Supreme Court to Block Vaccine Mandate

Last edited Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: NBC New York

A group of New York City teachers have asked the U.S. Supreme Court for an emergency order blocking the city's vaccine mandate from going into effect Friday.

The petition asks Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who is the circuit justice for this part of the country, to issue an emergency injunction blocking the mandate, which they claim would force thousands of public school employees out of work if it were to remain in place.

"In attempting to combat the COVID-19 virus, the City of New York, the

Department of Education, and the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene created an Executive Order that places an unconstitutional burden on public-school teachers," lawyers for the teachers wrote in their 12-page petition.



Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nyc-teachers-ask-supreme-court-to-block-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAP0zlZ?li=BBnb7Kz



On Edit: Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor allows NYC schools' COVID vaccine mandate to stay in place

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor on Friday blocked a challenge to New York City's vaccine requirement for public school teachers and employees, allowing the mandate to remain in place.

Why it matters: Mayor Bill de Blasio announced in August that all 148,000 staff members of the largest U.S. school district would need to submit proof of at least one dose of a COVID vaccine or risk unpaid leave until September 2022.

The deadline was pushed to 5 p.m. EDT on Oct. 1 after a lower court temporarily blocked the order.

With the order now lifted, a group of four teachers and teaching assistants petitioned the Supreme Court to bar enforcement of the mandate while litigation is ongoing in lower courts.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-justice-sotomayor-allows-215617679.html
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NYC Teachers Ask Supreme Court to Block Vaccine Mandate (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
Sotomayor will never do it Polybius Oct 2021 #1
You were right. Lasher Oct 2021 #23
Geezus Christ. onecaliberal Oct 2021 #2
So a handful of individuals get the headline. - Why not say "90% of teachers and personnel NoMoreRepugs Oct 2021 #3
Unacceptable. 90% of the staff did the right thing for their students AllyCat Oct 2021 #4
Good. Let's bring this to a head quickly. Don't know why they appealed to Sotomayor . . . Journeyman Oct 2021 #5
There is a justice assigned to each federal circuit, who handles emergency matters in that circuit.. Princess Turandot Oct 2021 #14
"Don't know why they appealed to Sotomayor . . ." BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #22
I think the union management is obligated to do this. Scruffy1 Oct 2021 #6
Maybe so. I'm thinking the ones involved in this, are bluestarone Oct 2021 #8
This list of vaccines public school students have to have in NY State. Botany Oct 2021 #7
For now Traildogbob Oct 2021 #10
OMG..... secondwind Oct 2021 #11
The wall needs to be up Traildogbob Oct 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author bluestarone Oct 2021 #18
I want to think this is a "put on" because this is so stupid. But then again we have millions Botany Oct 2021 #19
Because they deserve the right to kill their students NQAS Oct 2021 #9
Would you rather be stupid, or vaccinated? bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #13
WE need a law,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2021 #15
And these are TEACHERS? 3825-87867 Oct 2021 #16
This Retired Teacher is Shocked! McKim Oct 2021 #20
Correct the headline. Should be "Some NYC Teachers..." Jakes Progress Oct 2021 #17
Can't. Headline must match that of the linked article. Lasher Oct 2021 #21
Why is the teacher's union trying to kill teachers? SouthernDem4ever Oct 2021 #24

NoMoreRepugs

(9,401 posts)
3. So a handful of individuals get the headline. - Why not say "90% of teachers and personnel
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:13 PM
Oct 2021

vaccinated - What the Hell is the matter with the rest of You?" The needs of the few now take precedence over the needs of the many.

AllyCat

(16,174 posts)
4. Unacceptable. 90% of the staff did the right thing for their students
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:16 PM
Oct 2021

their families, and their communities. The rest just can't be troubled. They cannot see that they are misinformed no matter how many times they are explained how this works and why it is safe. I'm done giving them an excuse for being obstinate at this point. Now, if teachers are quitting because they aren't getting compensation commensurate with the job they are doing, I understand that.

But apparently, getting a safe and effective vaccine like 90% of their compatriots was just too much.

And it's not "forcing" anyone out of work. They have done that to themselves, by refusing to comply with a requirement of the job.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
5. Good. Let's bring this to a head quickly. Don't know why they appealed to Sotomayor . . .
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:27 PM
Oct 2021

but let's get a decision on this right away, and hopefully stave off any further efforts.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
14. There is a justice assigned to each federal circuit, who handles emergency matters in that circuit..
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:21 PM
Oct 2021

Justice Sotomayor is the justice for the 2nd Circuit, which includes NYS, Connecticut and Vermont. Thus, she gets requests for injunctions arising from those states.

Circuit assignments:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/circuitassignments.aspx

BumRushDaShow

(128,741 posts)
22. "Don't know why they appealed to Sotomayor . . ."
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 05:53 PM
Oct 2021

She's assigned to hear emergency appeals from states within the jurisdiction of the 2nd Circuit...

https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/circuitassignments.aspx

Circuit Assignments

It is ordered that the following allotment be made of The Chief Justice and the Associate Justices of this Court among the circuits, pursuant to Title 28, United States Code, Section 42 and that such allotment be entered of record, effective November 20, 2020.

  • For the District of Columbia Circuit - John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice


  • For the First Circuit - Stephen Breyer, Associate Justice

  • (Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island)

  • For the Second Circuit - Sonia Sotomayor, Associate Justice
  • (Connecticut, New York, Vermont)

  • For the Third Circuit - Samuel A. Alito, Jr., Associate Justice
  • (Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virgin Islands)

  • For the Fourth Circuit - John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice
  • (Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia)

  • For the Fifth Circuit - Samuel A. Alito, Jr., Associate Justice
  • (Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas)

  • For the Sixth Circuit - Brett M. Kavanaugh, Associate Justice
  • (Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee)

  • For the Seventh Circuit - Amy Coney Barrett, Associate Justice
  • (Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin)

  • For the Eighth Circuit - Brett M. Kavanaugh, Associate Justice
  • (Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota)

  • For the Ninth Circuit - Elena Kagan, Associate Justice
  • (Alaska, Arizona, California, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, Nevada, Northern Mariana Islands, Washington)

  • For the Tenth Circuit - Neil M. Gorsuch, Associate Justice
  • (Colorado, Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Utah, Wyoming)

  • For the Eleventh Circuit - Clarence Thomas, Associate Justice
  • (Alabama, Florida, Georgia)

  • For the Federal Circuit - John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice
  • .


    Scruffy1

    (3,254 posts)
    6. I think the union management is obligated to do this.
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:31 PM
    Oct 2021

    It involves termination and there is nothing in their contract allowing this. If the court rules against them I don't think that will be overly upset. It's part of the job of the union to act like a defense lawyer. It's a big hit to lose 15000 dues paying members. As a former teacher and union rep I hope Sotamayor tells them to go fly a kite. I'm guessing the next contract will spell out a vaccine policy.

    bluestarone

    (16,898 posts)
    8. Maybe so. I'm thinking the ones involved in this, are
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:42 PM
    Oct 2021

    The members that pay NO DUES! (just guessing but they fit that type)

    Botany

    (70,483 posts)
    7. This list of vaccines public school students have to have in NY State.
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:35 PM
    Oct 2021

    [Do we see these same teachers protesting these shots? I bet these teachers are Trumpers
    just looking to be a pain in the ass. If they don't want to get the vaccine then they don't need
    to get one but then they don't get to teach in public schools.]


    Vaccines required for day care, pre-K, and school attendance

    Diphtheria and Tetanus toxoid-containing vaccine and Pertussis vaccine (DTaP or Tdap)
    Hepatitis B vaccine
    Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccine (MMR)
    Polio vaccine
    Varicella (Chickenpox) vaccine

    Additional vaccines required for middle school and high school

    Tdap vaccine for Grades 6-12
    Meningococcal conjugate vaccine (MenACWY) for Grades 7-12
    Students in Grade 12 need an additional booster dose of MenACWY on or after their 16th birthday

    Additional vaccines required for day care and pre-K

    Haemophilus influenzae type b conjugate vaccine (HiB)
    Pneumococcal Conjugate vaccine (PCV)

    Traildogbob

    (8,709 posts)
    10. For now
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:55 PM
    Oct 2021

    Read this AM that Florida new Health Leader, Surgeon General just appointed, and AG are preparing to eliminate the requirement for ALL those vaccines for school children, and DeSatan indicates he will pass it.

    Traildogbob

    (8,709 posts)
    12. The wall needs to be up
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:10 PM
    Oct 2021

    Do not allow any travel into or out of Florida if they go this route. Pro life? Love those children? Leper’s and Black plaque coming soon.

    Response to Traildogbob (Reply #10)

    Botany

    (70,483 posts)
    19. I want to think this is a "put on" because this is so stupid. But then again we have millions
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:18 PM
    Oct 2021

    ... who voted for Trump and used to listen to an obese drug addicted hate talker who liked to fly to the
    Dominican Republic so he could screw little boys in the ass.

    Haven't these idiots heard of Helen Keller? She lost her vision and hearing because of some
    kind of childhood disease like measles gave her a really high fever.

    NQAS

    (10,749 posts)
    9. Because they deserve the right to kill their students
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:53 PM
    Oct 2021

    You know, though, a "group of teachers" could be anything. Who? How many? New teachers? Old teachers? Eligible to retire teachers? Rubber room teachers? Was it their initiative or another group, e.g., union, astroturf group, non-NY lawyers.

    This is like the stories about United Airlines, WHICH FIRED ALMOST 600 EMPLOYEES WHO REFUSED TO BE VACCINATED. The fact that 59,500 people got vaccinated and kept working was a minor point, where it should have been the headline. So I've stopped getting too worked up over stories like this. You know what they say. In any dispute involving lawyers, you can be sure of one thing. The lawyers will be the ones making all the money, however things turn out.



    bucolic_frolic

    (43,122 posts)
    13. Would you rather be stupid, or vaccinated?
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:16 PM
    Oct 2021

    Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. They must be a bright bunch.

    3825-87867

    (840 posts)
    16. And these are TEACHERS?
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:39 PM
    Oct 2021

    Must have missed that "Concern for Students 101" class! But instead took "I Come First 404."

    McKim

    (2,412 posts)
    20. This Retired Teacher is Shocked!
    Fri Oct 1, 2021, 05:02 PM
    Oct 2021

    This retired teacher is shocked!!!! They are so selfish!!!! They need to leave the profession!

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