Whistle-Blower to Accuse Facebook of Contributing to Jan. 6 Riot, Memo Says
Source: New York Times
SAN FRANCISCO Facebook, which has been under fire from a former employee who has revealed that the social network knew of many of the harms it was causing, was bracing for new accusations over the weekend from the whistle-blower and said in a memo that it was preparing to mount a vigorous defense.
The whistle-blower, whose identity has not been publicly disclosed, planned to accuse the company of relaxing its security safeguards for the 2020 election too soon after Election Day, which then led it to be used in the storming of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the internal memo obtained by The New York Times. The whistle-blower planned to discuss the allegations on 60 Minutes on Sunday, the memo said, and was also set to say that Facebook had contributed to political polarization in the United States.
The 1,500-word memo, written by Nick Clegg, Facebooks vice president of policy and global affairs, was sent on Friday to employees to pre-empt the whistle-blowers interview. Mr. Clegg pushed back strongly on what he said were the coming accusations, calling them misleading. 60 Minutes published a teaser of the interview in advance of its segment on Sunday.
Social media has had a big impact on society in recent years, and Facebook is often a place where much of this debate plays out, he wrote. But what evidence there is simply does not support the idea that Facebook, or social media more generally, is the primary cause of polarization.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/02/technology/whistle-blower-facebook-memo.html
Facebook should not be allowed to exist in its current form. Zuckerberg should be in prison.
YoshidaYui
(41,818 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,551 posts)grumpyduck
(6,222 posts)I was looking up Facebook online and there was info that some of its initial funding was provided by Russian-connected investors. I don't know if that info is still online, or if it was accurate, but it was sure interesting at the time.
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)... around everybody's head! Then no one can talk to anyone! Polerization will vanish, and no misinformation will ever be spread again!
Skittles
(153,113 posts)just curious
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)are attempts to keep Americans from talking to one another. Because, for some reason, everything that is wrong in the world seems to be caused by people talking to each other on Facebook.
So, if we are going to stop people from talking to each other, maybe we should take a more direct approach.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)it's a huge problem when a company can help give us Donald Fucking Trump as a "president" , interfere with efforts to end a pandemic, help domestic terrorists storm the Capitol (that's just for starters)..... because they allow disinformation to be spread far and wide
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)... what gave us TFG was the electoral college. Limiting free speech isn't going to alleviate that problem. In fact, it will make things worse.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)add FB and Russia and PRESTO: Donald Fucking Trump was "president"
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)... of the electoral college is to limit and regulate free speech. Makes sense .
Skittles
(153,113 posts)I don't think it falls under "free speech" any more than falsely shouting FIRE in a theater does.
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)what does that have to do with Facebook? Are they the only channel for antivax information?
By the way, the ACLU wouldn't agree with your assessment of this sort of false speech.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)if you love fascist FB, have at it - the entire company makes me SICK
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)... we have to do to keep and expand our share of the house and senate and to hold onto the presidency. Wasting time and political resources pissing and moaning about FB isn't on the list. Let alone that it is attacking free speech, a core liberal value. And the fact that any erosion of free speech will most certainly be used against us, and, in particular, those of us who are more progressive.
Yet another moral panic; diverting us from what is important and undermining liberal values.
SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)with each other before Facebook.
Facebook is guilty of using their algorithms to disseminate false information far and wide across the internet to people they know will enjoy it, and believe it.
If you think for one second that Facebook hasn't done anything wrong..... you're totally brainwashed by "social" media as well.
And of course, no one would ever converse again without Facebook, so we mustn't touch it in any way.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)And while it can be frustrating, I dont see any of the things that seem to come up in the weekly Facebook is evil postings.
Perhaps that is because every Meme I see posted (no matter the topic) is an automatic hide for me along with any post pro or con featuring Donald Trump, his family or playmates. One has to curate their social media including this page and I do a lot of curating here as well.
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)... and I don't even bother to curate anything.
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)... is doing it!
See! I told you so, that's.... oh, that's true
* "But the simple fact remains that changes to algorithmic ranking systems on one social media platform cannot explain wider societal polarization. Indeed, polarizing content and misinformation are also present on platforms that have no algorithmic ranking whatsoever, including private messaging apps like iMessage and WhatsApp."
Oh, wait. that's true too.
As you state, people will continue to converse without Facebook. So regulating Facebook will not do any real good. But it WILL do real harm, because it will set a precedent that undermines the first amendment. Don't expect regulation of speech to end with Facebook. Do you want "regulation" of DU? Expect it to be coming after you.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,959 posts)orangecrush
(19,411 posts)Are you series?
Facebuk are a bunch of morans!
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,959 posts)At least in non-Oxford UK.
polarisation with an 's'.
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)If you is to, hear is du on facebuk: https://www.facebook.com/democraticunderground/
Imjoy!
orangecrush
(19,411 posts)OK, you got me.
The solution is obvious - regulate FB and make it cost series money when they allow disinformation.
RockRaven
(14,899 posts)Otherwise, you just use "false"
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,712 posts)we would realize we are all alike and we could live in harmony.
Well, this is being road tested by social media, and the opposite is true. People are revealing what's on their minds, putting it out there on social media, and turns out we are shocked and appalled by each other.
thenelm1
(851 posts)He should have been kicked to the curb once the company became public if the board had any sense.
FakeNoose
(32,585 posts)In other words, his vote is the only one that counts.
SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)...contributed to political polarization in the United States."
CONTRIBUTED!
How about IS RESPONSIBLE FOR political polarization in the United States?
On the internet, it is the #1 purveyor of false information in the United States, and their algorithms make sure this right-wing false information gets to the people who would welcome it the most. It spreads this right-wing, hate information like wildfire around the United States, and makes obscene amounts of money from doing so.
I want to see Zuckerberg and his mother-fucking "social" media invention broken into 100 million tiny pieces and scattered to the wind. Then I want fines and penalties to lighten Mr. Zuckerberg's bank accounts by tens of billions of dollars.
I still won't be happy about all the damage he's intentionally done, but it it's a start.
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)right wing extremists trying to destroy the country like Trump and Mitch.
Fox News for example as well as far to many radio stations being in the hands of a handful of people who share the same goal.
SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)That makes what Facebook does alright?
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,959 posts)dalton99a
(81,401 posts)orangecrush
(19,411 posts)cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)So, that aside why do you believe he should be in prison?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,959 posts)I wish the poster would tell you, us, the name of the law(s) Zuckerberg broke, if any.
Will there be crickets?
Takket
(21,528 posts)and yes I think he should be in prison. Ted Nugent is an asshole but the first amendment gives him the right to shoot his mouth off.
But facebook has time and again been shown to be hurting the fabric of society and thumbed its nose at us all. When it became blatantly obvious Russia was abusing their platform, the cracked down on profiles spewing anti-Dem nonsense but did nothing to stem the tide of misinformation in general. Russia is still out there pushing anti-vax bullshit now on Facebook to divide us, and invermectin groups are sharing recipes for how to take it.
Facebook in general seems to want to "do better" but Zuck is always standing in their way in the name of big data for sale for big money.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-06-01/facebook-zuckerberg-trump
To say nothing of the Cambridge anayltica debacle............
https://fortune.com/2018/03/29/cambridge-analytica-facebook-scandal/
The revelation that they know they are causing psychological harm to kids and doing nothing about it that just came out this week......
https://kfor.com/news/washington-dc-bureau/facebook-in-the-hot-seat-over-leaked-data-about-young-users/
and of course the article in the OP.
Zuck is the captain of this ship and admittedly it is exceedingly rare that a CEO actually be held responsible for the acts of a company. I blame our de-facto oligarchy for that. (This pieces says it much more eloquently than I can: https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/why-wrongdoing-executives-are-rarely-prosecuted/)
Congress should be looking to enact laws to make sure Facebook, like any other company, is subject to laws to make sure they are operating in a responsible manner for the benefit of the general public. They seem to have an appetite for holding hearings, but legislating? Not so much. So Facebook just rolls right on..........
So while no, I can't point to section 123 paragraph 456 sub paragraph 789 of the criminal code and tell you Zuck personally violated it, I can tell you that in my own opinion just because something hasn't been legislated against doesn't make it right. I liken Facebook to the cigarette companies knowing about cancer, soda companies knowing about diabetes, and Sackler family knowing about opioids, and the entire 2008 financial collapse... just because what they were doing under everyone's noses at the time wasn't illegal yet (or still isn't illegal), doesn't make it right, fair or just.
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)Skittles
(153,113 posts)most FB users - even so-called "progressives" - don't give a fuck the harm it does, as long as they can "keep up with family and friends"
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)disappear forever.
SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)for Facebook?
cstanleytech
(26,236 posts)its based upon reading about him and the actions his company has taken over the last few years.
bucolic_frolic
(43,054 posts)Rhiannon12866
(204,779 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017685122
Frances Haugen says in her time with Facebook she saw, "conflicts of interest between what was good for the public and what was good for Facebook." Scott Pelley reports. Aired on 10/03/2021.
pfitz59
(10,302 posts)Odd coincidence