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Lasher

(27,556 posts)
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 08:06 PM Oct 2021

Pandora Papers: "Biggest-ever" bombshell leak exposes financial secrets of the super-rich

Source: Salon

In what's being called the "biggest-ever leak of offshore data," a cache of nearly 12 million files published Sunday laid bare the hidden wealth, secret dealings, and corruption of hundreds of world leaders, billionaires, public officials, celebrities, and others.

The bombshell revelations—known as the Pandora Papers—were published by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) and include private emails, secret contracts, and other records obtained during a two-year investigation involving more than 600 journalists in 117 countries and territories.

"This is the Panama Papers on steroids," said ICIJ director Gerard Ryle, referring to the 2016 exposé of the tax-evading secrets of the super-rich. "It's broader, richer, and has more detail."

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2021/10/03/pandora-papers-biggest-ever-bombshell-leak-exposes-financial-secrets-of-the-super-rich_partner/



The Panama Papers on steroids. This should get interesting.
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Pandora Papers: "Biggest-ever" bombshell leak exposes financial secrets of the super-rich (Original Post) Lasher Oct 2021 OP
Fuck the rich I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2021 #1
The Members - Offshore Banking Business TOTP 05 04 1979 Celerity Oct 2021 #20
Open it far and wide. Maybe, just maybe MSM will cover it. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #2
I don't think we will see many US names in these papers. Lasher Oct 2021 #4
Perhaps not. Welcome any sunlight we can get. And wish Congress and IRS would go after tax evaders Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #5
MSM is owned by the ultra rich robbob Oct 2021 #6
And if they do OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #29
They Are Rich They Are Criminals They Will Never Be Arrested DanieRains Oct 2021 #3
Unfortunately, sounds like vast majority of the money/wealth is not from USA, Hoyt Oct 2021 #7
"pandora" - open it and who knows what comes out ? RussBLib Oct 2021 #8
Sioux Falls a money laundering center? paleotn Oct 2021 #9
Fact is stranger than fiction. Lasher Oct 2021 #10
This Tiny City Is Home to America's Richest Bank Branches Celerity Oct 2021 #19
This doesn't mean shit... SpankMe Oct 2021 #11
I've not heard of Pandora Papers AKwannabe Oct 2021 #12
Just released within last 24 hours.... Pachamama Oct 2021 #26
Is my name on that list? No Vested Interest Oct 2021 #13
Did USA treasury get any money, send anyone to jail based on Panama Papers? NCjack Oct 2021 #14
Lol. Right. This is just the tip of the iceberg. KPN Oct 2021 #15
As Rushbo said... czarjak Oct 2021 #16
KICK orangecrush Oct 2021 #17
Don't forget the Paradise Papers. Interpol's been so busy coordinating with governments that, ancianita Oct 2021 #18
Any 'Murcans the GQP can shower with tax cuts? moondust Oct 2021 #21
K&R! burrowowl Oct 2021 #22
I predict that exactly nothing will be done about this Orrex Oct 2021 #23
Old news. Justice matters. Oct 2021 #24
Yeah. The lack of government regulation re: crypto should tell you a lot. /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #28
From CBS News: Newly-published Pandora Papers expose secret financial dealings of global politicians Rhiannon12866 Oct 2021 #25
The world is not making any progress bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #27
Exactly! OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #30
That's just the way things are. bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #31
All very true OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #32
Well, that is the crux of the matter bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #33
It wasn't a box. It was Pandora's jug. twodogsbarking Oct 2021 #34
There's not so much corruption here in the U.S.A. because this kind of sociopathic behavior... hunter Oct 2021 #35

Lasher

(27,556 posts)
4. I don't think we will see many US names in these papers.
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 08:36 PM
Oct 2021

That's because US is itself a spectacularly corrupt tax haven. The wealthy in the United States tend to pay such low tax rates that they have less incentive to seek offshore havens.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,113 posts)
29. And if they do
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 07:36 AM
Oct 2021

It will be to condemn it and tell us how horrible it was and how we all should be worried because any of us might be next. As if more than 12% of the population could even consider doing this. However, I do hope that the few agencies that do feel the need to tell us about this will do so and allow us to call out the other agencies that have a stake in maintaining the status quo.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
3. They Are Rich They Are Criminals They Will Never Be Arrested
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 08:31 PM
Oct 2021

Because of law and order....

More order, less law.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Unfortunately, sounds like vast majority of the money/wealth is not from USA,
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 08:45 PM
Oct 2021

or taxable here. Although Russia, Britain, etc., might have a chance at taxation.

RussBLib

(9,006 posts)
8. "pandora" - open it and who knows what comes out ?
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 08:53 PM
Oct 2021

BOO!?$$?!

Only a couple of people have been jailed due to the Panama Papers, and no one of high visibility. They have cheated their governments out of their rightful taxation long enough.

Let some frikkin' heads roll. And not the dupes or the mules.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
11. This doesn't mean shit...
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 09:43 PM
Oct 2021

...until and unless an analysis of the data is published widely and leads to new legislation at state and national levels that close these loopholes.

I'm not holding my breath.

AKwannabe

(5,641 posts)
12. I've not heard of Pandora Papers
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:03 PM
Oct 2021

Did anything come of it? Ie…does it even matter?
Having the info published supposed to embarrass?
Cause financial ruin?
Cause arrest or jail time?

Idk?
Does anyone?

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
26. Just released within last 24 hours....
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:22 AM
Oct 2021

That is a reason most people including yourself and me are learning about it…

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
14. Did USA treasury get any money, send anyone to jail based on Panama Papers?
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:36 PM
Oct 2021

I have low expectations of the Pandora Papers.

czarjak

(11,266 posts)
16. As Rushbo said...
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:42 PM
Oct 2021

“Wealth is like rainwater, all that’s ever been generated is already here, it’s just a matter of distribution”. It’s all at the top just waiting to trickle down. Any time rubes.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
18. Don't forget the Paradise Papers. Interpol's been so busy coordinating with governments that,
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:51 PM
Oct 2021

well, there's a warrant backlog in the West.

All that information in the Panama and Paradise Papers?

Nothing happened to any of the named hoarders and tax evaders.
Big leak. Big splash about the leak. Then what.

No FBI coordinations with Interpol, which currently has 62,448 Red and 12,234 Yellow notices in circulation, anyway.

No raids on the culprits' homes or offices;
no confiscation of electronics,
no confiscated passports,
no frozen assets,
no subpoenas for investigations,
no shell company charter dissolutions;
no nothing. Nada.

It's as if offshore account owners live in a world free from Rule of Law, isn't it. Yes, it is.

Wow it's as if they don't care, or might even want us to know who they are, just to rub the world's collective nose in it. With all the helpless, hapless enforcement across jurisdictions, maybe governments are not so much in a big hurry to take their nations' wealth back.
Gotta wonder why that is. A lot of us could sure use it, right?

Orrex

(63,199 posts)
23. I predict that exactly nothing will be done about this
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:26 AM
Oct 2021

Except, of course, that key contributors to the investigation will suddenly be found dead of "suicide."

Rhiannon12866

(205,123 posts)
25. From CBS News: Newly-published Pandora Papers expose secret financial dealings of global politicians
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:49 AM
Oct 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017685147

A massive document leak is revealing the secret financial dealings of some of the world's richest people and most powerful leaders. According to The Washington Post, the so-called Pandora Papers detail the "opaque financial universe where global elite shield riches from taxes, probes and accountability." The Post's investigative reporter Debbie Cenziper joins CBSN host Elise Preston with more on what she and her colleagues discovered while examining the documents. Aired on 10/03/2021.


bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
27. The world is not making any progress
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 07:28 AM
Oct 2021

We've been struggling with economic equity since the French Revolution, if not way way before that. And the peasants have been granted access to a 401K* and equity index funds which crash every time the Fed threatens to stop diluting the currency.

*You too can have one if you live frugally while working for the man.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,113 posts)
30. Exactly!
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 07:41 AM
Oct 2021

(BTW, I love your signature line, but you know that the system is rigged to make the rich richer. Until we change the system...)

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
31. That's just the way things are.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 07:56 AM
Oct 2021

Self-interest, incentive, motivation, capitalism. Soviets tried something different but collectivism failed, and I would argue because it was basically the same elites bleeding the system while managing public wealth. Now they've privatized the same system.

European worker socialism in a capitalist economy seems to be working, but some of them do have sovereign energy funds to help the process, and most of their standards of living flag a bit.

Will the world ever cap wealth, and devolve capital and decision-making to informed workers? Would that be wise? We're not all equal in brains or motivation. Is there enough planet remaining to do so? Tune in next time as our exalted leaders confront limits in the exciting conclusion All Power to the Hourly Workers Causes Chaos, or Powell Cooks Thanksgiving Dinner for the Poor!

OldBaldy1701E

(5,113 posts)
32. All very true
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:58 AM
Oct 2021

But as that wonderful meme says, all we have to do is stand up. It is the continual lies and strong-arming that has made things the way they are. Will the middling people ever pull the gold glitter from their eyes? Will they ever want to? Ignorance is bliss, after all.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
35. There's not so much corruption here in the U.S.A. because this kind of sociopathic behavior...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:19 AM
Oct 2021

... is largely legal and often celebrated.

So many of us are temporarily embarrassed capitalists.

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