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vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)You would be so goddamn irrelevant if we had one or two more seats and I hope the fuck next year that's the case. Seriously these two are just trying to kill the bill entirely now. Because its just demand after demand now
Firestorm49
(4,029 posts)speak easy
(9,178 posts)Seem like every week or so, the 'good' Senator has a new, non-negotiable demand. This is not negotiation, it's Proud Mary grade showboating.
groundloop
(11,513 posts)Probably a mix of both. If he keeps moving the goal line his fellow Democrats will end up with nothing, and it certainly seems that's what he wants.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I dont expect the midterms to go well for us when nothing gets accomplished. Just my opinion.
Manchin is stalling for that very reason also in my opinion. Democrats are not doing anything about it.
ck4829
(35,038 posts)So this is a very weird flex.
dlk
(11,512 posts)There are many more of them than he thinks. Why would he struggling parents a target?
Vinca
(50,236 posts)Manchin because of where he lives, but I bet he couldn't last 2 months on that kind of income. In my area, a modest rental would cost about a third of that without utilities. If you have a couple of kids, childcare might cost in the $10,000 range. Doesn't leave much for food, clothing, medical needs and other necessities.
LiberalFighter
(50,783 posts)and now in late October he is criticizing pieces of it?
TexasBushwhacker
(20,142 posts)The VAST majority of families receiving child tax credits, SNAP, housing assistance and Medicaid gave at least one working adult. This is the guy opposing raising the minimum wage from $7.25 and hour? Does he not understand the concept of "working poor" when he's from one of the poorest states in the nation?
In the words of Andy Dufresne in The Shawshank Redemption, how can he be so obtuse?!
padah513
(2,496 posts)Once you come up with a solution to a problem, he finds another problem that needs a solution. Rinse, repeat. We really have to GOTV so we can nullify this man and make his stranglehold on our party obsolete, but what do you expect from a guy who said he talks to trump regularly.
Harker
(13,976 posts)What does he think the D after his name stands for?
pazzyanne
(6,543 posts)proving the saying, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".
Harker
(13,976 posts)Maybe Manchin is auditing Sinema's fundraising course at ASU.
waterwatcher123
(143 posts)Biden should use LBJ's time honored hard ball approach of talking about scaling back federal programs that directly impact him (i.e., Appalachian Regional Commission). Joe Machin's wife is the chair of this commission.
Polybius
(15,334 posts)LBJ had like 67 Senators. If one said "Go scratch your ass, I'm outta here!" he could afford to lose one. We can't. Biden is also not LBJ, who was always a tough guy.
turbinetree
(24,683 posts)is that being paid by taxpayers through his senate salary.......and as for child tax credit's...did he get his daughters pharma corporations tax credits....just saying.....you can see what he is doing, getting the media to shift the blame to the progressive caucus....
Firestorm49
(4,029 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,417 posts)and anyone who acts as callously as an "Official Republicon".
Bayard
(22,005 posts)"Demands." How does he explain his demands to his constituents, or is he like Sinema, and just doesn't talk to them?