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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 10:41 AM Oct 2021

Nikolas Cruz pleads guilty to Parkland school shooting

Source: Axios

Nikolas Cruz on Wednesday pleaded guilty on all counts for carrying out the 2018 shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., that left 17 people dead, including 14 students and three staff members.

Driving the news: Cruz, 23, pleaded guilty at a hearing on Wednesday to 17 murder counts and 17 counts of attempted first-degree murder for carrying out the deadly shooting.

The case now turns to a penalty phase, where a 12-person jury will determine Cruz's sentencing, AP reports.

Cruz last week also plead guilty to attacking a jail guard nine months after the shooting.


Read more: https://www.axios.com/nikolas-cruz-pleads-guilty-parkland-shooting-84e3ce00-ad65-46e8-a3e1-a4afcd1e0d87.html
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Nikolas Cruz pleads guilty to Parkland school shooting (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2021 OP
I can't beliebe drexelkathy Oct 2021 #1
That's what I was going to ask NQAS Oct 2021 #5
Why do so many people think criminal justice is as fast as it is on LAW & ORDER? brooklynite Oct 2021 #15
An 18-month Covid shutdown SpankMe Oct 2021 #21
Because he had the right to have it take this long obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #7
Kudos to his attorney no_hypocrisy Oct 2021 #2
His Parents should also be ,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2021 #3
He was adopted. LisaL Oct 2021 #4
Being a minor,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2021 #8
He is not a minor. LisaL Oct 2021 #11
I think ,,, Cryptoad Oct 2021 #16
He has no parents obamanut2012 Oct 2021 #6
They may be referring to his guardians who gave him the guns he used tenderfoot Oct 2021 #10
He purchased the guns legally. LisaL Oct 2021 #13
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #9
Good, saves time. Now apply the death penalty as punishment for his terrorist act. N/T Devil Child Oct 2021 #12
I suspect that is the reason for the plea... forgotmylogin Oct 2021 #18
It is the defense's hope. Thankfully the prosecution wasn't foolish enough to agree to a deal Devil Child Oct 2021 #19
There is no plea deal. LisaL Oct 2021 #24
Death penalty is not off the table. LisaL Oct 2021 #23
A Parkland Father Speaks Out on the Mass Shooter's Guilty Plea quaint Oct 2021 #14
A thousand times yes. Mention of the mass murderers name can't be helped... Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #17
I'm glad jurisprudence has as a goal the distinction between vengeance and justice. Torchlight Oct 2021 #20
Very good self awareness sarisataka Oct 2021 #22
Realizing myself in your shoes is what turned me against the death penalty. To many of us ... marble falls Oct 2021 #25

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
21. An 18-month Covid shutdown
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 01:22 PM
Oct 2021

Plus defense bargaining for life instead of death. These processes take time.

All in all, this has actually been pretty fast. The Boston Marathon bomber case is still nowhere close to being resolved, and that was in 2015.

It took 6 years to execute McVeigh for the Oklahome City bombing, and that was with overwhelming evidence.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
7. Because he had the right to have it take this long
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:24 AM
Oct 2021

Now, he will serve out the rest of his life in a probably unairconditioned Florida state prison, and by pleading guilty will spare the families and living student victims a devastating trial.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. He is not a minor.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 11:57 AM
Oct 2021

He was 19 at the time of the shootings. He wouldn't have been eligible for the death penalty if he wasn't an adult at the time.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
16. I think ,,,
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 12:28 PM
Oct 2021

sentence of Life Time Solitary confinement without any parole, would be a better punishment for his crimes than death, which is too quick and easy.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
13. He purchased the guns legally.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 12:04 PM
Oct 2021

He was also a legal adult at the time of the shooting, not a minor. As such he didn't need guardains.

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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
19. It is the defense's hope. Thankfully the prosecution wasn't foolish enough to agree to a deal
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 12:54 PM
Oct 2021

No deals for terrorists.

quaint

(2,561 posts)
14. A Parkland Father Speaks Out on the Mass Shooter's Guilty Plea
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 12:09 PM
Oct 2021
Fred Guttenberg shared a message and photo on Monday morning from the gravesite of his daughter Jaime, who was shot to death more than three years ago in the Parkland school massacre. “At cemetery with Jaime & reading reports to her of pending guilty plea in the murder trial,” he tweeted. “I want her to know. What I don’t want is to see the name or photo of her murderer.”

Guttenberg called for news media to avoid focussing heavily on the perpetrator and instead highlight the lives of Jaime and the 13 other high school students and three staff members who were fatally shot on February 14, 2018. He echoed a long-running message embraced by various mass-shooting survivors for much of the past decade, beginning with the “no notoriety” movement launched after the mass shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, in July 2012.

[link:https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2021/10/parkland-shooter-guilty-plea-jamie-guttenberg-survivors/|
Mother Jones]
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
17. A thousand times yes. Mention of the mass murderers name can't be helped...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 12:38 PM
Oct 2021

maybe once, in the last paragraph or sentence. Why the photographs of the devil?

The end mass murderers notoriety and publicity movement is the surviving parent wishes that the media constantly disrespects, among many others.

Torchlight

(3,327 posts)
20. I'm glad jurisprudence has as a goal the distinction between vengeance and justice.
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 01:16 PM
Oct 2021

A very noble ideal to strive for, both the courts and the individual.

If it were up to me alone, his sentence would be both cruel and unusual, full of anger and full of emotion. So I'm really, really glad the courts navigate these decisions instead of people like me who would wind up causing more suffering than I would cure.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
25. Realizing myself in your shoes is what turned me against the death penalty. To many of us ...
Wed Oct 20, 2021, 04:41 PM
Oct 2021

... feel that way and it only goes to prove that there is no way to apply it appropriately, in proportion, or equally.

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