Biden to announce new social spending framework expected to win support of all Democrats

[reACTIONary]

Source: Washington Post (No Paywall)

President Biden plans to announce Thursday a revised framework for his social spending plan that he expects will gain the support of all Democrats, according to multiple people with knowledge of the situation, marking a potential breakthrough moment after months of lengthy negotiations and stalled talks.

The specifics of what the president would announce were not immediately clear, nor was it clear whether he would be prepared to announce the support of key Democratic holdouts. But Biden recently told congressional Democrats that he thought he could secure a deal for a spending plan between $1.75 trillion and $1.9 trillion.

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[bucolic_frolic]

1. It may not be the kitchen sink, but it's a good bill

and as I recall just about the range of the original proposal

[True Blue American]

3. True

[Fiendish Thingy]

15. Where have you been the past week?

At this point, the bill has been stripped of paid leave, community college, Medicare expansion, the CEPP (only substantive climate change section), billionaire taxes…

All that’s left is means tested childcare (emphasis on mean) and funding to buy a govt fleet of EV’s.

That’s not a “good bill”; it’s a shit sandwich without bread.

[True Blue American]

2. Scarborough and CNN just announced

Breaking news. Biden to announce framework that Democrats can agree with!

[PoliticAverse]

8. Do all the Democrats in the House and Senate know they agree with it? n/t

[Irish_Dem]

11. Two senators probably didn't get the memo.

[PoliticAverse]

13. It's always somebody! (Sometimes the same somebodys). n/t

[vercetti2021]

4. Great

Until penny pincher Manchin finds "something" in it he doesn't like

[True Blue American]

5. Pretty sure

Manchin and Sinema signed on or President Biden would not be making an announcement.

The President has no moss growing in his back. He knows when to hold ‘em, knows when to fold “em.
,

[vercetti2021]

6. I just have 0 expectations

Especially with those two now.

[True Blue American]

7. Manchin came out yesterday

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And talked about negotiations. He said,” The President will get his bill!”

[PoliticAverse]

9. He didn't say when. n/t

[Irish_Dem]

12. What they say one day has no connection to the next day comments.

Not holding my breath.

[gab13by13]

10. GQPers are going to bash this bill,

my hope is that Democrats won't also join them in bashing the bill. We got exactly what we could get. We need to gain Senate seats to get more, one step at a time is better than standing in molasses.

[Calista241]

14. This is called the bully pulpit.

Here's the plan, vote against it at your peril.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

16. This reminds me of Ben Franklin's famous quote:

On September 17, 1787, delegates left the Constitutional Convention in Independence Hall in Philadelphia. As they exited, Benjamin Franklin was asked what kind of government do we have? "The framework for a Republic," he replied, "if you can keep it."

As Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with the framework of certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."

And there's Patrick Henry's quote: "Give me the framework of liberty, or give me death."

I know Biden is looking for a major accomplishment before he leaves for his summit, but announcing a "framework" just seems a little off for some reason. As much the final Build Back Better bill -- even weakened by the intransigence of two rogue senators -- is a major accomplishment in progressive legislation, I get a little antsy knowing that Manchin and Sinema can throw a monkey wrench into the works at the last moment, just because they can.

I mean, Manchin just drew one of his "red lines" to protect billionaires from the injustice of paying their fair share in taxes, even though W. Virginia has absolutely zero billionaires. The state does have a plethora of poor citizens who would benefit greatly from the original bill, and Manchin has made the point that his stances are being made in service of his constituents. How does that make sense?

I'm holding my breath until I see Biden putting pen to paper and signing the bill into law.

[madville]

17. They are dropping paid family and medical leave from the bill

Apparently Manchin and Biden came to some agreement to drop it from the bill. Everyone is just gonna go along with that I guess?