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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:06 PM Jan 2022

Kansas bill would force pharmacists to fill ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine as off-label COVID treatm

Source: Topeka Capital-Journal

A group of Kansas politicians tasked with steering public health policy are pushing to allow doctors to prescribe unproven treatments and preventives for COVID-19 without any potential for responsibility.

While the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has warned against using ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19, some Republican senators want to shield doctors from legal liability and board discipline for prescribing the drugs.

Ivermectin is used to treat parasitic worms, especially in livestock. Hydroxychloroquine, sometimes abbreviated as HCQ, is a malaria drug that is also used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. Neither drug has proven to be save and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19.

But that hasn't stopped the Senate Public Health and Welfare Committee from advancing a bill making it easier for doctors to prescribe the drugs for off-label use. The bill would also require pharmacists to fill such prescriptions, even if they believe the drugs would be dangerous for patients.


Read more: https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/coronavirus/2022/01/25/kansas-politicians-off-label-ivermectin-hydroxychloroquine-covid-treatment-pharmacists/9198489002/
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Kansas bill would force pharmacists to fill ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine as off-label COVID treatm (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2022 OP
You can't make malpractice insurance cover kooky cures. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #1
Legislators pretending to be physicians ... it's posturing for the red meat cult crew NotHardly Jan 2022 #14
Play doctor in the legislature keithbvadu2 Jan 2022 #23
Let them all die ... hopefully taking no innocents with them. What a bunch of loonies!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2022 #2
Then let the people who want snake oil... Claire Oh Nette Jan 2022 #3
Nope no legislation to get a vaccination that all of the dumbshits got when they were kid's..... turbinetree Jan 2022 #4
Having it both ways Claire Oh Nette Jan 2022 #5
If you rely on "sincerely held beliefs", then you can deny medical treatments and medicines, Solly Mack Jan 2022 #6
as cecil as in beanie and cecil, would say. AllaN01Bear Jan 2022 #7
*not* selling the stuff won't cause a single person to get the vaccine The Mouth Jan 2022 #8
Let them drink bleach too! BlueJac Jan 2022 #9
they can add llashram Jan 2022 #10
Was it Kansas that legislated the value of Pi to be 3 exactly, none of this .14159 crap? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #11
That's funny. nt leftyladyfrommo Jan 2022 #15
Turns out it was Indiana Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #17
HCQ Rebl2 Jan 2022 #12
My advice to the pharmacies would be not to stock the drug at all. patphil Jan 2022 #13
They could always just be out. nt leftyladyfrommo Jan 2022 #16
Better: a form indicating zero liability, said liability transfers to named KS R legislators. machoneman Jan 2022 #19
Forced? By the same people who bleated that a pharmacist should not be forced to fill Aristus Jan 2022 #18
So...tell me... jmowreader Jan 2022 #20
Maybe Kansas can turn blue after all! Attrition is the key. Scalded Nun Jan 2022 #21
Killing their own voters, one idiot at a time. Vinca Jan 2022 #22
The average IQ in Kansas is poised to take a step increase. NCjack Jan 2022 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Pas-de-Calais Jan 2022 #25
funny thing !! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #26

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
3. Then let the people who want snake oil...
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jan 2022

...go see a group of politicians when they wind up with cancer, or diabetes, or Parkinson's.

Maybe we can get the politicians to insist doctors dish out anthrax for anaphylactic shock, and heroin for a sore throat.

This is why we don't go to politicians when we are sick. We go to doctors. Who have actual training and education.


turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
4. Nope no legislation to get a vaccination that all of the dumbshits got when they were kid's.....
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jan 2022

so that they could grow up and do this shit.....I just wonder if they hadn't gotten those vaccination shots where Kansas would be now.....

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
5. Having it both ways
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jan 2022

"a bill making it easier for doctors to prescribe the drugs for off-label use. The bill would also require pharmacists to fill such prescriptions, even if they believe the drugs would be dangerous for patients."

But republicans also want pharmacists to stand in judgment and refuse to fill orders for women seeking birth control or RU-486, even though they know those meds DO work because they don't believe in women enjoying sex without punishment.

Do as they say, not as they do, rules for thee, but not for me.





Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
6. If you rely on "sincerely held beliefs", then you can deny medical treatments and medicines,
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jan 2022

if they go against your so-called "sincerely held beliefs".

But if you rely on facts, they will force you to provide medical treatments and medicines that go against those facts.



The Mouth

(3,145 posts)
8. *not* selling the stuff won't cause a single person to get the vaccine
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jan 2022

making nearly any substance illegal has never proved to work and usually backfires. It's not like some MAGAt is going to say "Gee I can't get HCQ so I'd better get the Fauci/Gates microchip jab" or whatever blithering idiocy they believe.

Of course what cracks me up is that the same mouth-breathers who don't think the gub-mint should be telling them what they can or cannot put in their body are usually fine with the War on Drugs....

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
9. Let them drink bleach too!
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:25 PM
Jan 2022

I am so done with stupid at this point! Give them every dumb ass remedy they want.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
10. they can add
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:35 PM
Jan 2022

human urine to that list also, right? Hell, they should go all out and start using animals' urine too. Won't be a problem...go for it!

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
17. Turns out it was Indiana
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jan 2022

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill

The Indiana Pi Bill is the popular name for bill #246 of the 1897 sitting of the Indiana General Assembly, one of the most notorious attempts to establish mathematical truth by legislative fiat. Despite its name, the main result claimed by the bill is a method to square the circle, although it does imply various incorrect values of the mathematical constant π, the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter.[1] The bill, written by a physician who was an amateur mathematician, never became law due to the intervention of Professor C. A. Waldo of Purdue University, who happened to be present in the legislature on the day it went up for a vote.

Rebl2

(13,462 posts)
12. HCQ
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jan 2022

I used for rheumatoid arthritis for years caused some eye damage in my case. Caught soon enough so that it didn’t cause blindness. One of the side effects of using it.

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
19. Better: a form indicating zero liability, said liability transfers to named KS R legislators.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jan 2022

Sign or no horsey drugs!

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
18. Forced? By the same people who bleated that a pharmacist should not be forced to fill
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jan 2022

a prescription for birth control?



jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
20. So...tell me...
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:26 PM
Jan 2022

Does this bill also shield pharmacists from liability when the HCQ and worm pills they were forced to dispense start killing the people who take them?

I’m going to assume here that pharmacies will be forced to add these drugs to their formularies and maintain stocks of them, which would seem to be a way to get the law overturned in court as it would be interfering in the operation of the private sector. Pharmacies don’t stock everything; many of them in my area don’t carry opioids and lots of pharmacies don’t carry Plan B.

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monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
26. funny thing !!
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 04:08 AM
Jan 2022

got a friend that lives in Montana & hadn't talk'd to him in awhile ! was complaining about the cost of the horse wormer !! I told him to save some money & go to wally world , get some ex-lax & make some hot-coco with it !! use about 4 chunks!! he asked me if it get rid of germ's ! get rid of everything !! very inexpensive!! he called a couple of day's later & asked where I go info . told him from a friend!! went to the store to get crapper paper & couldn't make it ! did that for a day & 1/2 ! called me back & got his first shot ! after walking bow Legged & butt falling out & what could be worst than a shot !! true story & he's a trumper from hell !!

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