Iowa Caucus Shocker: Rick Santorum Declared Winner By 34 Votes
The Des Moines Register released a bit of a bombshell Thursday morning, with a report that, when the votes are all certified at 9:15 a.m. Thursday morning, Rick Santorum not Mitt Romney will be declared the Iowa Caucus winner, by 34 votes.
Its a tie for the ages, Jennifer Jacobs of the Register writes. She uses the term tie because eight polling locations will be given an incomplete for not turning in their Form E, which makes their count official (reading her article paints a portrait of total chaos and rule-breaking throughout the caucuses). For all intents and purposes, however, Santorum will be declared the victor.
The new final totals:
Rick Santorum: 29,839 Change: -168
Mitt Romney: 29,805 Change: -210
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/iowa-caucus-shocker-rick-santorum-declared-winner-by-34-votes/
So, Mighty Mitt has won in his other home state, and that's it. Limp on, Willard, limp on!
Botany
(70,489 posts)"That some undervote will be found that will put Romney over the top." (rough quote)
Now will Mr. Frothy ask Newt to drop out?
LiberalFighter
(50,881 posts)Critters2
(30,889 posts)Again, and I know this is hard for people in non-caucus states, the caucus is a meeting of the party at the precinct level, not a public vote. There are no voting booths, no election judges, none of the things that will happen in a general. General elections use electronic machines (which may be a problem, but a wholly unrelated one). Caucuses are precinct committee members counting handwritten paper ballots. In the Dem caucuses, they just vote by show of hands.
47of74
(18,470 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Remember all the I'm a ____ and I'm a Mormon tv spots.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)aimed at the other candidates for "piling on Romney," before and after the debates and I've seen Romney front and center during the debates, not on the edge of the stage with more positive questioning aimed at him and more challenging or (no good answer) questions presented to the others.
Having said that I haven't seen all the debates but of the ones I have seen and general media coverage there is no doubt in my mind who the corporate media prefers.
I believe they prefer Gingrich next, followed by Santorum and Paul last.
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)NYT is reporting that the chairman of the Iowa Republican party will announce at 9:15ET that there will not be an official winner declared.
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)bigworld
(1,807 posts)If I were a Santorum supporter, I'd be mighty pissed at the Iowa GOP establishment.
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)....everyone gets a blue ribbon. Because we can't separate winners and losers. Anyone remember that meme that conservatards like to label us with?
BobbyBoring
(1,965 posts)We don't have winners and losers anymore. Someone's feelings could be hurt!
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Critters2
(30,889 posts)convention, who will choose delegates to go to the RNC.
I was once an "undeclared" delegate to the county. Needless to say, when it came down to voting, I declared. Nothing is set in stone at this point.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Picking a winner, either way, will piss off a lot of people, especially because of suspect counting actions.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)who really won. This is horrible news for Mittens!
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)n/t
spinbaby
(15,088 posts)Romney by 8 is a "win," but Santorum by 34 is a "tie."
Amazing, isn't it?
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)
Do any of them see the irony? No.
Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)Can't have the non-establishment moron winning anything. that would be bad.
So much for the GOP running 'clean and efficient' elections.
GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)Republican presidential front-runner Mitt Romney suffered a setback on Thursday when the party stripped him off his victory in Iowa after a final tally of votes.
His rival, the socially conservative and former senator Rick Santorum, emerged with the most votes, a majority of 34.
The Register said the party was declaring the vote "unresolved" because there are "too many holes" in the certified totals to know the victor for certain, with the results from some precincts missing.
But it means that Romney can no longer claim to be the winner in Iowa. If another of his rivals, Newt Gingrich, wins the South Carolina primary on Saturday, this would mean they basically have one apiece: Romney the New Hampshire primary, held on 10 January, Gingrich South Carolina, and Santorum Iowa from 3 January. The race for the party nomination to take on Barack Obama in November would then be wide open.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/19/mitt-romney-iowa-win-recount?newsfeed=true
JJW
(1,416 posts)Show us your past 5 yrs of tax returns, Willard!
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)And it's yet more evidence that no one is in control of the GOP. They are falling to pieces before our eyes. Ain't it wonderful?
freshstart
(265 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)Seagulls rapacious
They fight over a corndog
They will steal yours, too
yardwork
(61,588 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Then each of the 3 stooges would have a win.
irisblue
(32,967 posts)soo enjoy it when they fight. perry dropping out, willard losing iowa. showing the semi facist/definate authoritian republican party screwing their elections up so publically. why, it's like a box of high quality nut filled chocolate...so many pieces to make me happy.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Nobody reads the body copy but us.
BumRushDaShow
(128,840 posts)that all of them are as arrogant as one can be and Santorium will certainly not stand down and let that go (at least yet) if he can get his jollies with a "win". Certainly this would reinvigorate the religious right to tithe to him to go on the offensive.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The rest is just a show intended to grab the voters' attention.
What a farce. Reminds me of the Democratic primary in 2008.
The powers that be choose and let us think we decide.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)in 2008.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)Javaman
(62,517 posts)in a primary.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9044
http://www.facebook.com/trueedward
rocktivity
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2012/01/19/register-exclusive-2012-gop-caucus-count-unresolved/
What a total cock up! So, it's not just their candidates. This entire party has now gone completely dumb.
It shows that Cain is nothing unusual. These are now the people who run our major businesses, and without their money and authority, they would be unemployable.
Their talk about the stupidity and inefficiency of government has no credibility now.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)More than 150 leaders in the conservative evangelical Christian community are getting together Friday and Saturday at a private ranch west of Houston in a last-ditch effort to derail Mitt Romney's march to the Republican nomination.
Source: NPR
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Although, when you think about it, much easier to pull off than in an actual election.
This says a LOT about Willard.
ChadwickHenryWard
(862 posts)quakerboy
(13,919 posts)On the one hand, its amusing to watch the rabid rats fight over who gets to go up against the fox. And anything that extends the republican primary and gives voters a longer chance to see the faces of craziness that make up the slate of candidates seems like a good thing toward the goal of not allowing a republican to retake the white house.
On the other hand, I hate to see a vote with issues just accepted, for any reason. Its like they are training the populace to just accept when things go fishy. And that scares me.
TygrBright
(20,757 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Festivito
(13,452 posts)A small county had so few people that the got together and figured out the posted totals were wrong. They had 2 votes for Romney, but the posted results showed 22.
That means that the next day they knew Romney lost by 12, not won by 8.
The guys signed affidavits, BradBlog put those on its web. Big Ed's radio show in Detroit went to music just as he talked about it. Randi Rhodes show had extra music and did not seem to cover it.
It was odd.