A Russian rocket that struck a Ukrainian train station and killed dozens of people had 'For the chil
Source: Yahoo News
A Russian rocket that hit a Ukrainian train station had "For the children" written on the side.
The Friday morning attack in Kramatorsk killed dozens and injured over 100 people, authorities said.
Civilians had flocked to the train station to evacuate the city ahead of an anticipated Russian assault.
Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/russian-rocket-struck-ukrainian-train-145232642.html
A Russian rocket that struck a train station and killed dozens in eastern Ukraine on Friday had a Russian phrase meaning "For the children" written on its side, Ukrainian officials said.
Can they get any lower?
Coventina
(26,874 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)TomSlick
(11,034 posts)NATO will not react with force because of western Europe's dependence on Russian oil and gas. The US will not react to avoid splitting NATO. The public in the US and western Europe will not support responding with force from fear of a nuclear attack.
Putin is free to rape and murder the Ukrainians into submission. The only question then will be which country is next.
onecaliberal
(32,488 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,632 posts)Despite tech, it's a more complicated, frustrating world creating financial hardship. Coupled with the violent inhumanity and knowing that millions are just fine with that, makes it really disturbing. I guess we really haven't made any significant advances in basic human violence, other than the U.S. finally made lynching a real crime and despite beratement and racism, we have a POC female VP and Supreme. I have to savor these things. But I hear ya.
onecaliberal
(32,488 posts)it makes me severely sick to think the world doesn't really mean never again... It really depends upon the dirt in which you stand. Truly sickening. Ukraine isn't even the first country this sick fuck has rolled over. AND we were still working with putrid until this.
Evolve Dammit
(16,632 posts)world" intervene? Remains to be seen. Never thought WWI and WII would have not been something that truly would never be contemplated or played out again, but obviously I was wrong. Take care
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)A bully with nukes can control the world.
onecaliberal
(32,488 posts)Letting him drop bombs on children. Letting him send his monsters to rape children and commit unspeakable crimes. Its the third country hes done this to. Hes got a tiger by the tail and hes not going to stop.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)Why would he stop?
onecaliberal
(32,488 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)Yes which country will be next?
Whichever country Putin fancies is the answer.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)with nothing left to lose. Meanwhile, he'll just turn around and say it is "fake news". What a monster.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)PatSeg
(46,804 posts)It is like he daring the West to stop him.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)But he is realty based, he is not suffering yet from any consequences. His money is safe.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)Nothing he is doing is rational and daring us to retaliate is dangerous and suicidal.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)Of being a global superpower and bringing down the west. He is a ruthless sociopath and currently his behavior is consistent with that diagnosis.
But who knows. He could be losing it.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)He is behaving like the cartoon villain who wants to "Rule the world"! History seems to indicate that generally doesn't end well for the villains. I suppose they all believe that they will be the exception to the rule. What they don't realize is that nothing will ever be enough and they will live in a constant state of dissatisfaction and yearning. Though I do believe he gets a certain fulfillment from violence and destruction. It is hard to understand a mind like his.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)Being a superpower means lots of headaches.
He is a ruthless sociopath and the only things important to him are money and power. He wants dominance. He gets a lot of pleasure seeing others suffer.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)he thinks money and power will satisfy whatever is missing in his soul. When he's not satisfied, he thinks the solution is MORE. We see this with the ultra rich as well. What do you do when you can have pretty much anything you want, but nothing eases your hunger? I wonder what happened to him in his early childhood to make him such a shell of a human being.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)There always has to be more of something to feed the hole in his soul.
Yes something had to have happened in his childhood. Abuse, deprivation, etc.
Some people think there might be a genetic link to this pathology too.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)and bad genes could explain a whole lot, though still hard to truly understand.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)People who enjoy killing, cruelty, tormenting others.
Hard to understand this.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)it goes beyond environment. It is like something in their brains is wired wrong and their environment can counteract it or make it worse.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)The field of psychology goes back and forth on origins of psychopathology.
I think it is probably a combination of factors. Yes some people have faulty wiring.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)and there will probably always be the unknowable. People are so complex.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,788 posts)PatSeg
(46,804 posts)not reality. He believes he can do whatever he wants and that no one will stop him. He has been in power for too long and has lived in a delusional bubble where his sycophants feed him whatever he wants to hear.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,788 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)But some of it is reality as I said below. All the horrible things he has done with no consequences. So he feels emboldened.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)He bought half the US Congress, US media and a sitting president.
Has stolen the wealth of Russia, poisons opponents.
And NO consequences so far.
So he is emboldened and sees no limits on his behavior.
packman
(16,296 posts)Apparently - Russian troops have been feed the propaganda that Ukrainians were/are "children eaters" because they were told that during WWII they were starving and ate children. For them to write that meant the troops are being indoctrinated to hate the Ukrainians and , thus, bombing them with those messages seem to make it all justified in their evil,, twisted minds.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)We have no idea how brainwashed these troops are, but from the stories we've heard, it sounds pretty bad.
Igel
(35,197 posts)They took out a train station crawling with fascist militants.
Then the news broke and Russian media corrected them--the soldiers were wrong, they didn't actually do what they thought they did.
PatSeg
(46,804 posts)Sounds like total chaos.
ck4829
(34,977 posts)Russia continuing to have a normal one.
Botany
(70,291 posts)... out of town so if you wanted to escape the town and go west you had to take the train. Hence the
rail station might have had even more people there when they hit it with a missile attack. They hit
women, children, and seniors trying to flee the war they caused. Putin and company were trying to cause
even more death and bloodshed.
Kill 'em all and that starts with Putin. If you are a Russian fighter in Ukraine and you don't surrender then
you should be dead. BTW I don't see the Ukrainians being "nice" to any Russian POWs.
Putin is trying to rub his cruelty in our faces by killing innocent people in Ukraine.
IronLionZion
(45,259 posts)This seems like GOP/Qanon pretending to care about children by dismantling our public education system here in the US.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)onecaliberal
(32,488 posts)membership on a human rights council. You can't make this shit up. There is NO moral authority in this world as long as we let this continue to happen. What the fuck is wrong with people?
Justice matters.
(6,874 posts)Jack-o-Lantern
(965 posts)We not only destroy each other, but the entire planet.
Irish_Dem
(45,638 posts)mahina
(17,506 posts)Wrote the paper proving that.
https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/2666/chapter-abstract/1957071/War-is-Only-an-Invention-Not-a-Biological?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Duke University Books
War is Only an InventionNot a Biological Necessity
Margaret Mead
https://doi.org/10.1215/9781478007135-081
Kablooie
(18,571 posts)Russian propaganda has accused Ukrainian troops of killing children.
It seems Russian people eat up Putin's propaganda 100%.
At the beginning the world blamed Putin but not the Russian people. That is changing.
Soon all of Russia will become the enemy just as regular people in Nazi Germany became enemies for not opposing the regime.
onecaliberal
(32,488 posts)IronLionZion
(45,259 posts)Russia has been claiming that Ukraine has been killing Russian children in Donbas for the last 8 years. It's bonkers to think bombing areas crowded with civilians including children could be justified by anything. But supposedly enough Russians believe it.
Justice matters.
(6,874 posts)So they killed children in order to save them.
Warpy
(110,910 posts)No one knows if this was painted before or after the attack. However, if Putin thinks he's going to create panic by targeting women, children and old folks, he's very badly mistaken. He will only generate a white hot fury among formerly pro Russian eastern Ukrainians and we can expect to see them committing a few atrocities, too, as this war drags on.
(The reason I'm a little skeptical about the "for the children" is that Russian guided missiles aren't that well guided)
Beastly Boy
(9,060 posts)launch. Looking at the pictures, there are burns towards the rear of the rocket, and they appear to cover parts of the last letter. If the letters were painted after the rocket landed, the paint would cover the burns. It's very difficult to fake this effect otherwise.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)more of a question than a statement.
Beastly Boy
(9,060 posts)The condition of the rocket after landing, the crater it created, the fairly light damage it sustained, are peculiar and may suggest that the rocket malfunctioned at some point. But the burn marks over the painted letter suggest that the paint went on first, and the burn marks went on top of that.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)it sounds like this may have been what the Russians were most worried about Ukraine developing:
According to Ukrainian online news resource Apostrophe, Grom-2 is so advanced that it will change the balance of power between Ukraine and Russia, and allow the Ukrainian military to crush the fledgling breakaway republics in the war-torn Donbass region. Citing local experts, the outlet stressed that the Grom-2's range would allow its missiles to target Moscow, "and consequently, any attempt to launch full-scale aggression against Ukraine will end in us hitting targets on Russian territory."
...
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/ukraine/grom.htm
ripcord
(5,084 posts)Justice matters.
(6,874 posts)France and the UK declared war against nukes-less Germany after hitler attacked Poland. France was attacked by Nazi Germany next and quickly surrendered.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,146 posts)carries the implication of "on behalf of (our) children." It's like a rallying cry, not a tag on a birthday present.
EndlessWire
(6,377 posts)There is a single NATO warship hanging out in the Aegean. At least, it's the only one that has its AIS turned on.
Good thing I'm not President. I'd bypass the train stations and head straight for Moscow and the Kremlin.
The Russians already sank NATO shipping. Why do they get to do that??
FrankTC
(210 posts)Russia should be designated a state sponsor of terrorism. Legally this might make them accountable in US courts for damages to US nationals. It might also further discourage other states from helping them evade sanctions. Morally it might shame them I know or at least help them appreciate that their lies about Ukraine bombing their own citizens arent working.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)dalton99a
(81,068 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dvornikov
On 13 December 2012, Dvornikov became a lieutenant general. On 13 December 2014, he was promoted to colonel general. In September 2015, Dvornikov became the first commander of the Russian Armed Forces in Syria during the Russian military intervention in Syria. On 17 March 2016, he was awarded the title Hero of the Russian Federation for his leadership.[6]
In July 2016, Dvornikov became the Southern Military District's acting commander. He was confirmed in the position on 20 September 2016.[1][7] By a decree from President Putin, Dvornikov was promoted to the rank of army general on 23 June 2020.[8] In April 2022 he was placed in charge of military operations during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. [9]