Man dies after setting himself on fire at Supreme Court plaza
Source: CNN
By Jamie Crawford, Jessica Schneider and Veronica Stracqualursi, CNN
Updated 1:23 PM ET, Sat April 23, 2022
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(CNN)A man who set himself on fire Friday on the plaza in front of the US Supreme Court in Washington, DC, has died, according to the Metropolitan Police Department.
The man was identified as Wynn Bruce of Boulder, Colorado, an MPD spokesperson said Saturday.
Bruce had been airlifted to a hospital in Washington, where he passed away, according to the department.
Supreme Court Police, US Capitol Police and the MPD had responded to the incident, which occurred Friday at about 6:30 p.m. Eastern time.
No one else was injured in the incident, a Supreme Court spokesperson said Friday. .....................
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/23/politics/supreme-court-man-dies-fire/index.html
What a horrible way to die. May his family and friends find peace.
No motivation given.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Wish the media could point this out....
The same billionaires that own oil stocks, own the media....
Mz Pip
(27,430 posts)I wonder what he was protesting. There must have been some reason he lit himself on fire.
LeftInTX
(25,103 posts)I can think of a million things to protest the USSC
Voting rights
Gerrymandering
Reproductive rights
The list is endless
wackadoo wabbit
(1,164 posts)Curious how not one mainstream media outlet has mentioned this little fact.
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)Skittles
(153,111 posts)I mean, come on, it's ridiculous.
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Drill baby drill.
Drive baby drive.
Fly baby fly.
Cruise baby cruise.
Burn baby burn.
The Real Earth Plan.
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)If he wanted to protest he should go to China & India.
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)People grasp at electric vehicles, solar & wind power like that will solve everything. It won't & its not realistic. People in Teslas in LA already wait in lines to charge their cars. Too much of whats needed comes from CHINA. And we see what the EU is dealing with by chaining themselves to Russia for much of THEIR energy. China will gladly hold the rest of the world hostage for solar & battery materials. Meanwhile China & India keep building more coal power plants & keep putting more into he air than we do.
Most also refuse to accept nuclear power as a vital part of reducing greenhouse emissions. Etc Etc.
All that together adds up to a failure to reach any reasonable goals.
I hope for new inventions & discoveries because THATS what its going to take
ck4829
(35,037 posts)Especially when we had politicians shift from Denial: "Climate change isn't real" to Rationalization: "Climate change means we will have new sea lanes open up"
Skittles
(153,111 posts)OK? IT IS A SUICIDE ATTEMPT.
LeftInTX
(25,103 posts)I don't think this will change anything.
I don't know if he was mentally ill, but I just don't see any good coming from this.
We can't get anything done in DC.
Will this change Manchin's mind?
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Given everything that's gone to crap these last few years, some people have simply reached their moral limits.
That may not make them "crazy", only overwhelmed.
Perhaps they're seeing the world accurately and just couldn't block it out each day any more. It's a wonder any of us can, and do.
llashram
(6,265 posts)we just don't know what pushed this gentleman over the edge.
llashram
(6,265 posts)had mental health issues?
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/the-burning-monk-1963/
https://www.grunge.com/484621/the-real-reason-this-buddhist-monk-set-himself-on-fire/
In America today there is great depression among many who think rationally yet like this individual sees no other way to protest. Many such as I don't. There were many monks who set themselves on fire in protest during the Vietnam War. This monk probably saw many years of coming death and destruction in this country. He was subject to persecution as a Buddhist monk and he also was protesting the persecution of Roman Catholic President Diem against Buddhists. The political and religious reasons go back into Vietnam's history as a French colony.
So until we have a note explaining a reason for this gentleman setting himself on fire...Ukraine's death and destruction? Hate against the Left? Abortion? Republicans trying to overturn our government? Racism? Sexism? Climate change and coming environmental chaos and disaster? Don't judge so harshly. His self-immolation is sad. True. But I will continue to try to understand this decision outside the judgement of being mentally ill.
religious craziness
Make7
(8,543 posts)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c
I can't avoid thinking about Vietnam when reading this news. Sadly, if Mr. Bruce was acting in protest, it is unlikely to have much of an impact. I hope he found peace at last.
Bo Zarts
(25,389 posts)On the steps of the Pentagon, within view of the office window of Robert Strange McNamara - US Secretary of Defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Morrison
BigmanPigman
(51,564 posts)Truly horrible.
TygrBright
(20,753 posts)24601
(3,955 posts)in the attempt to force him to enter a plea.
of the Salem 20, 14 were women and 6 were men, including one minister. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_of_the_Salem_witch_trials
When you widen the scope to those worldwide executed (I would argue the correct term is murdered) from before 323 BC (method unknown) through 2020 (Firing Squad in Somalia), the number appears to be under 150. While some were burned, that wasn't the exclusive method. Hanging and beheading were prominent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_for_witchcraft
TygrBright
(20,753 posts)...and resulted in thousands of burnings.
Germany had a particularly gruesome record of burnings, but Spain, the Low Countries, and France did plenty. One of the charges against Joan of Arc was witchcraft.
Male heretics were also burned, but their charges included witchcraft much less often.
Possibly the number of women burned "only" for a charge of witchcraft is relatively small, but thousands of women nevertheless experienced burning to death as witches (AND heretics, etc.)
The history of conflating "witchcraft" with "heresy" is an interesting and revolting one - male leaders of both Catholic and Protestant "Christian" churches deliberately connected the two as a way of increasing the horror factor of heresy sufficiently to justify grotesque torture and forms of execution as a terror tactic.
Any uppity woman who got wrongsides with the local religious authorities was vulnerable, in the 16th and 17th Centuries.
And yes, thousands did burn.
historically,
Bright
24601
(3,955 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,263 posts)The paragraph (it's Wikipedia, but it does give sources) which seems relevant is:
wackadoo wabbit
(1,164 posts)He was a Shambhala Buddhist who was deeply concerned about climate change, and he'd posted/telegraphed a year before that he was planning on doing this on Earth Day 2022.
Here's the best article about him that I believe exists:
https://dennismichaellynch.com/news-alert-eery-social-media-post-surfaces-from-man-who-set-himself-on-fire-near-supreme-court/
To say that I'm disgusted by the way the mainstream media is covering this or should I say, "failing to cover this" is such an understatement that I can't even articulate it. It really is reprehensible.
Judi Lynn
(160,447 posts)hay rick
(7,584 posts)In the absence of a "suicide note" they would have to investigate his life work and his religion. They so don't want to go there...
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)aspire? Of all the ways to characterize his suicide, "tragic" comes to mind immediately.
"Heroic" does not.
JohnSJ
(92,060 posts)hay rick
(7,584 posts)His act was viewed as heroic and was another public relations nail in the coffin of America's involvement in Viet Nam.
Mr. Bruce may have retained his full rational faculties, not have suffered from depression or some form of mental illness, and acted in accordance with his Buddhist principles. Perhaps Mother Earth was his Viet Nam. An incurious media establishment appears disinclined to seek out and share more information.
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)days when we were called traitors, when we were peacefully protesting. At the time my marriage was falling apart and my activism was one of the things my then husband thought I was "overdoing." I had a little son then and I was damned if I was going to let the war machine against the Vietnamese people claim my son through the draft, then in existence.
LeftInTX
(25,103 posts)There is so much horrific stuff in the world right now. Climate is just one of them. I don't know if the Supreme Court is the most effective setting.
The media will probably find out more. They need to verify their sources.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/03/27/149454729/protest-by-fire-why-some-tibetans-choose-self-immolation
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)The Vietnam War consumed the attention of the American people in the 60's and 70's. Climate change...not so much.
My guess is that this story will be covered for a couple of days, then fade away.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)It did nothing to stop the war.
Nothing.
Just as this man's senseless death will do....nothing.
It would be very irresponsible for the media to glorify a suicide.
They don't do that.
intheflow
(28,442 posts)I saw no motive given and immediately searched his name. I figured he was one of the good guys because no one on the other side would be willing to risk their lives to make a point in a way that doesnt harm others.
Novara
(5,817 posts)"... to risk their lives to make a point in a way that doesnt harm others."
A-fucking-men.
Wild blueberry
(6,615 posts)Lunabell
(6,044 posts)So sad. But, I think it's just too late for this planet at this point. 😕
rampartc
(5,383 posts)mohammed bonazizi ignited the arab spring in tunisia. the arab spring featured several self immolations. 4 in algeria, 2 in egypt, 1 i mauritania
buddhist monk thich quang duc and several others protested diem's suppression of south vietnam's buddhists by catholic minorities (supported by catholic jfk)
also czechs in their 1968 anti soviet uprising, tibetans, and turkish kurds in the 1990s among others.
self immolation is a serious form of non violent protest, kids, don't try this at home.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,939 posts)It is a serious disregard for reality to call it "non-violent" or to call it "heroic" as another poster did.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)It is the most agonizing way to die with your only hope being you pass out as soon as possible.
LeftInTX
(25,103 posts)Protests against China
It's a personal decision.
Everyone is entitled to free speech.
Unfortunately, I don't think his death will have an impact on climate change.
However, it is his decision and his decision alone and I respect that.
twodogsbarking
(9,664 posts)and when you have to battle your own you are both the attacker and the attacked.
You are forced to try and fix a sick mind with the same sick mind.
Collimator
(1,639 posts)I once described it as having cut oneself very deeply and bleeding out. You see the blood; you know that you should do something to stop the bleeding. But you are so woozy and disoriented from blood loss that you can't act.
And I have to second the observation of others here that, aside from the horror of this man's desperate act, the real story is the media's unwillingness to address the man's motivation for doing what he did.
ck4829
(35,037 posts)dalton99a
(81,391 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)he's an American but I see the news is mostly reported in European media from a quick google search
clementine613
(561 posts)Of course, it's not going to happen.
Jack-o-Lantern
(966 posts)who self-immolated at a busy intersection in Saigon in 1963. A picture of him burning was all over the media.
That picture was horrifying. It haunts my dreams to this day.
Imagine the hundreds or even thousands of little kids who have seen the burning man
I can appreciate Mr. Bruces dedication to a cause, and his determination to effect change.
But to do this??
I dont see this act as something noble, or something to be admired or something that will change anything at all.
I do feel incredibly sad and sorry for this poor misguided man.
It was a tragic waist of a good mans life.
Emile
(22,460 posts)jfz9580m
(14,529 posts)He was a climate activist. RIP.