At least 7 killed in Buffalo mass shooting, law enforcement sources say

[BeyondGeography]

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Source: NBC News

At least 7 people were killed during a mass shooting in a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, Saturday afternoon, law enforcement sources told NBC News.

The shooter was also killed and another victim is in critical condition, the sources said.

A man wearing military-style gear entered a Tops Friendly Market on Jefferson Avenue shortly after 2:30 p.m. and began firing a rifle, according to law enforcement.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/buffalo-supermarket-mass-shooting-leaves-7-dead-law-enforcement-source-rcna28883

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Developing. Lots of chatter that the shooter was a white supremacist but no confirmation yet.

On edit, NBC now reporting the shooter is in custody.

[doc03]

1. Here we go I predict there will be more supermarket

shootings now.

[Hoyt]

2. How's about a Select Committee on Gunz?

[BeyondGeography]

3. +1

[regnaD kciN]

51. Republicans will instead demand a Select Committee on How This is All Biden's Fault...

[SoCalDavidS]

4. Reports That KILLER Is A 18 Yr Old White Supremicist Who Posted Anti-Semitic Content

Also a 180 page manifesto.

[raccoon]

24. I'm glad he's 18 and not a juvenile. Nt

[AllaN01Bear]

38. why do these idiots always post a manefesto?

[LeftInTX]

65. So we can lock them up!

[Samrob]

70. Was he taken to McDonalds before going to jail? nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

71. If you're referring to Dylan Roof,

that's been debunked by Snopes.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/06/22/dylann-roof-burger-king/

In Shelby, the FBI handled Roof’s initial questioning, [Shelby police Chief Jeff] Ledford said. Shelby police’s lone conversation with the mass-murder suspect was about food. Earlier in the day, Roof had bought water and chips at a south Charlotte gas station. Now he was hungry. Police bought him food from a nearby Burger King, Ledford said.

[PSPS]

5. Tops Friendly Market? Nothing says "friendly" like a mass shooting.

I guess the earlier mass shooting in Milwaukee's "entertainment district" wasn't "entertaining" enough. These have become sardonically comical.

[JohnnyRingo]

58. I was hesitant to point out the irony

I wonder if he had a red nose.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. As I posted here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2917021

according to the (tunnel-vision) local media here in Philly, it ONLY ONLY ONLY "happens" here.

Gunz + deranged and/or deeply disturbed/emotionally distressed/angry individuals = injuries or death to those who are victims

[bucolic_frolic]

7. Maybe terrorist cases need prompt adjudication

There's no doubt who did it. They nabbed him. Multiple people saw him. They have evidence.

Try it in 30 days and get it over with. The whole country is being held hostage by these incidents.

[SoCalDavidS]

8. Reports Are That 10 Are Dead nt

[SergeStorms]

25. At least 10, at last report.

Another right-wing gun nut.

Can't revisit the 2nd amendment, can we, SC Justices.

[joshdawg]

68. Can you hear the republican response to that?

"Now is not the time to talk about gun control."

Effin' republicans!!!

[SergeStorms]

69. That's exactly what they'll say.

I imagine they've said it already.

"Thoughts and prayers", as the "sanctity of life" right-wing completely disregards the massacres taking place at an alarming rate all around them.

I guess it will take one of these slaughters in their own front yard before they start taking this problem seriously. Until then it's just something that happens to other people in other places.

[Model35mech]

13. 17 of the 21 were shot at just one of those events.

[Tommymac]

10. 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

😭

[Princess Turandot]

11. fyi The article in your OP has been updated to reflect the info about the shooter...

.. He is in police custody, not deceased.

[BeyondGeography]

15. Thanks.

[SoCalDavidS]

12. This Was Targeted. Reports Are Saying He Had "N" Word Written On Gun

It happened in a predominantly black neighborhood.

[Marigold]

14. I fully expected this to happen at one of the women's marches today......

But I guess its tough to decide who to shoot first. Blacks, brown people, women, jews, lgbtq? So much hatred to go around.

[AngryOldDem]

22. I was at a 5K this morning to support my city's Gay Pride month.

Not going to lie, it was in the back of my mind that something could happen there.

Gee, it’s fantastic to live in the Greatest Nation on Earth. Before long, you’ll need to make sure your damn affairs are in order before you walk out your door.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. I share your concerns. Feel the same way in what Americuh has de-volved into.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

16. In a country so fraught with racism and wing nuts it's tragic that guns are held as sacred. n/t

[AngryOldDem]

20. Nothing will change until that attitude changes.

There is no goddamn need for military-grade weapons to circulate in society.

So motherfucking sick of gunhumpers.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

26. +100

[gopiscrap]

56. also +100%

[gopiscrap]

60. also +100%

[LonePirate]

17. Hmmm... military-style gear. I'm guessing not a current military member but some racist LARPer.

And by LARPer, I mean someone along the lines of the Proud Boys or white nationalists.

[SergeStorms]

35. An eighteen-year-old kid.

Where the hell does that much hate come from in someone so young? He probably learned it from good old Dad.

[wnylib]

18. The murderer live streamed the shootings on Twitch.

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/mass-shooting-supermarket-buffalo-10-dead/

[SergeStorms]

29. From the article:

"A 106-page online manifesto, believed to have been uploaded by the shooter, explained that he was motivated by a conspiracy theory that white people are being replaced by other races. In the document, he says he is 18 years old and a self-described white supremacist and anti-semite".

Gee, weren't those "good people" on one side saying that in Charlottesville?

Fucking reich-wing assholes in the country are getting too emboldened by never having to pay the price for this shit.

[wnylib]

34. This A-hole will pay.

Local police conference (I live near Buffalo) says that this is being treated as first degree murder and a hate crime. The evidence is overwhelming. Federal investigation and charges to follow.

The murderer was not local. He traveled from a distant NY county to Buffalo and selected a supermarket in a predominantly Black neighborhood.

11 of the victims were Black and 2 were White.

[SergeStorms]

36. What made him come all the way to Buffalo....

wnylib? This is just too damned much. All these mass shootings are too damned much, but when they start getting close to home it hurts even more.

I'm betting he's a southern-tier native. There are some backwoods, backward, bozos along the border with Pennsylvania.

[wnylib]

40. No word yet on what county he came from.

True that there are hate-filled ignoramuses in rural PA bordering the southern tier. But there are people like that in central NY rural areas and northern rural NY, too.

They are not releasing many details now since the investigation is ongoing. All they say about the distance is that shooter traveled "several hours" to reach Buffalo.

My guess is that he comes from a very white, rural small village so he had to travel to find targets. I am also guessing that he chose Buffalo because it is a politically very blue city with a Black mayor and Black communities to target.

You've got to be really twisted to hate so much that you leave your own community and travel for hours in search of people to kill.

[melm00se]

42. There was a mention that he was from Conklin, NY

which is south of Binghamton, NY which means he was really motivated.

Conklin is 3 1/2 to 4 hours away from Buffalo.

[wnylib]

43. What is the source for where he is from?

[melm00se]

46. https://news.yahoo.com/multiple-people-shot-buffalo-york-193456461.html

The gunman was identified as Payton Gendron of Conklin, a New York state community about 200 miles (320 kilometers) southeast of Buffalo, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press.

[wnylib]

48. That is the first that I have heard of a name or location.

Local news (Buffalo area) are not giving out that info. Must have come from a leak or from one of the outside LE agencies.

[melm00se]

50. While yahoo can be a bit on the dodgy

side, yahoo is aggregating the AP news story

https://apnews.com/article/buffalo-supermarket-shooting-442c6d97a073f39f99d006dbba40f64b

[wnylib]

54. For any of the media to know his name and

where he is from, they must have had an inside source. Locally, that info is not being released. During a Buffalo police news conference, they refused to answer any questions on that.

[electric_blue68]

75. Well NYC has it's own home grown violent racists, not as many probably as some other places, and...

NJ is known for some virulent racists, too.

[Aristus]

76. All he has to do is say he came to protect property,

then burst into tears on the stand, and he'll get off scot-free.

I fucking hate these assholes...

[Cha]

37. 🤷‍♂️💕🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

💙💛

[LudwigPastorius]

41. Sounds like a good candidate for federal prosecution.

...and the subsequent federal death penalty.

(...and, I'm rarely on board with capital punishment)

[wnylib]

45. Buffalo news reports say that the FBI is

already involved in the investigation.

[LudwigPastorius]

47. It should be comparatively short work.

Many witnesses and, no doubt, surveillance footage...

[wnylib]

49. Not only surveillance footage,

but the killer live streamed it on Twitch.

[LudwigPastorius]

52. Sick, evil fucker...

[yaesu]

39. This is the theory being pushed on fox news & the reasoning behind the ban abortion nuts

fox news is recruiting terrorists, its time to shut them down!

[AngryOldDem]

19. Authorities hinting that shooter was white, most victims were black.

Just fuck this. This country has gone off the damn rails.

[wnylib]

23. I live near Buffalo. Just listened on NPR

to a police press conference.

13 people were shot, 11 killed. Shooter is a white supremacist from a distant NY county, not local.

Of the 13 shot, 11 were Black, 2 were White. One of the dead is a retired police officer who was a security guard at the store. The 3 who were wounded but survived were store employees. 2 of them are in critical condition.

Law enforcement investigating shootings as premeditated murder and hate crime. They are currently investigating his home and electronic devices.

[llashram]

21. guns in the wrong

hands, again. Reasons for shootings differ but have the same immediate outcome. Long term to me is a sadness I don't really want to experience...GOTV

[maxsolomon]

27. 2 mass shootings in 24 hours.

A gun battle on the street in Milwaukee, and now this atrocity.

This is the America you want, 2nd Amendment Absolutists.

[Evolve Dammit]

30. It is what they want, and we are just seeing it unfold. Really sucks. May law enforcement be ready

[maxsolomon]

31. LEOs won't do anything but pick up the bodies.

It happens too fast.

[SergeStorms]

33. And make sure the little prick is well fed....

has a comfy place to sleep, and they'll all take selfies with the crazy, white supremacist fucker.

[Evolve Dammit]

57. In some cases. Grand Jury duty and I can tell you (at least where I live) they are doing a lot

of intervention beforehand. Some of it does happen quickly, too quick to respond, but if you know the community, it goes a long way to preventing and interceding more violence. in a non-violent approach. I came away with a new awareness of what LEO's do, but also an incredible sadness for all the ruined lives based on very poor choices by those who are considered for indictment. And the families, loved ones, friends are all affected as well. I am still recovering from some of the cases. Huge amount of fentanyl contributing to 40% of cases (my guesstimate). It's everywhere. And it kills, sometimes on the "free sample."

[maxsolomon]

59. thanks for sharing.

i knew about the fentanyl; it's destroying rural america as surely as it's destroying west coast cities with tent city squalor.

it's true, we don't really see the prevention. the real american carnage makes the headlines.

[Evolve Dammit]

61. Thanks. I was very impressed with the LEO's sworn testimony and DA's. They sometimes do it to

make sure treatment for addiction is part of the resolution. Happens in the plea bargain stage. It is so widespread. And of course, heroin, cocaine, oxy's and others are just so widely available and also part of the spectrum, particularly among those recipients who have nothing (homeless etc.) And so profitable for traffickers. It is an under-reported pandemic of its own.

[SergeStorms]

32. This is the war the fascist reich-wing authoritarians' want.

Trump and his cult think this is way overdue. They're being replaced by minorities they say. Another reason the evangelicals don't want any white babies aborted. They want more "quiversful". Pieces of shit!

[myohmy2]

44. since...

...the right-wing likes to kick stare decisis in the ass, when we get the court we'll make the 2nd Amendment mean the military not the citizenry...

...then we can get serious about regulating guns...

...it's true you can kill people with a knife, a car, a bat or even a fork but guns makes killing people so much easier and efficient...

...I'm a gun owner and I'm sick of the daily carnage in this country...it's long past the time something needs to be done about gun violence...

...unbelievable...

[artemisia1]

53. *** SARCASM** And the worst thing about this is somebody's going to blame it on a gun... nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

55. Buffalo mass shooting being investigated as a hate crime

The Saturday shooting at a Buffalo, N.Y., supermarket that left 10 people dead will be investigated as a hate crime, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of New York Trini Ross said during a press conference.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/buffalo-mass-shooting-being-investigated-as-a-hate-crime/ar-AAXhgd5

I'd say it qualifies.

[Evolve Dammit]

62. Another white terrorist captured. white privilege is real

[Rebl2]

72. That is

what they are-terrorists.

[Evolve Dammit]

77. I think this may become the norm, We are on the brink.

[C Moon]

63. If this were 2016-2020, tfg would call him a fine young man.

[Grokenstein]

64. Is Michelle Malkin still calling for "people who look like terrorists" to be detained?

Because I don't think we have enough facilities to cage every white incel in Murikafuggyeh.

[Justice matters.]

66. Video of that disgusting nazi in court:

Mass shooting suspect appears in Buffalo court

Although I am against the death penalty, I would make an exception for these nazis with guns.

Execution by electrocution (not the easy way out).

[Ziggysmom]

67. There were signs before that he wanted to do this. Previous trouble with school threats.

Twitter is showing the family gifted the kid a rifle when he was 16. Nothing celebrates the birth of a Savior like firepower.

Link to tweet

?s=21

[AngryOldDem]

74. Signs were there. Even to strangers.

I got on the Reddit sub for Buffalo as soon as I heard about this. (I’ve found that community subreddits can provide more details and insight than breaking news stories.) About halfway down the thread on the shootings, somebody posted “It sounds like XXXX (name of Redditor).” This was early on. Later, it was confirmed that it was indeed XXXX (Gendron). Apparently he had a history of disturbing posts. His Reddit account is gone, but I hope it was archived in some way for authorities.

I also heard that his parents knew that he had bought this weapon. I’m sorry, but if my kid brought something like that into my house, I would have many questions and it would be taken to the cops for destruction ASAP. My gut reaction is to also hold the parents responsible, like the parents of that Michigan school shooter. (Remember that?) Nancy Lanza was just as culpable for Sandy Hook as her insane son.

Jesus…(lack of) gun laws aside, we learn absolutely nothing from these tragedies, EVER. All we do is cry, express shock, and offer thoughts and prayers. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[samsingh]

73. despite their talk about saving babies, repugs don't actually care about people dying

[Sancho]

78. People Control, Not Gun Control

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

79. Police: Buffalo gunman aimed to keep killing if he got away

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) — The white gunman accused of a racist rampage at a Buffalo supermarket planned to keep killing if he had escaped the scene, the police commissioner said Monday, as authorities investigated the massacre of 10 Black people as a potential hate crime or act of domestic terrorism.

The gunman, who had crossed the state to target people at the Tops Friendly Market, had talked about shooting up another store as well, Buffalo Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia told CNN.

“He was going to get in his car and continue to drive down Jefferson Avenue and continue doing the same thing,” the commissioner said.

The commissioner’s account was similar to portions of a racist 180-page document, purportedly written by Payton Gendron, that said the assault was intended to terrorize all nonwhite, non-Christian people and get them to leave the country. Federal authorities were working to confirm the document’s authenticity.

https://apnews.com/article/buffalo-supermarket-shooting-19514b0c6524bd428f4167ad9b490a12