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brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
Tue May 24, 2022, 09:07 PM May 2022

Live Updates: 'We Have to Act,' President Biden Says After 19 Killed at Texas Elementary School

Source: New York Times


Biden demanded action on Tuesday night in the wake of a school shooting that killed 18 young children and a teacher. But it’s unclear whether this will be another speech from another president that will be followed by little real action. Mr. Biden did not call for a specific vote or a specific policy, choosing instead to focus on the emotional moment for the country.

In his speech, President Biden asked the question that many people in the country are asking tonight: Why here? He said that other countries around the world do not have the same problem with mass shootings. “Why? Why are we willing to live with this carnage? Why do we keep letting this happen?” It’s a question he didn’t have an answer to.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/24/us/shooting-robb-elementary-uvalde/9e16528b-1cbf-51e0-b78d-0ef19f08c54e

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Live Updates: 'We Have to Act,' President Biden Says After 19 Killed at Texas Elementary School (Original Post) brooklynite May 2022 OP
We can't act FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #1
As Parkland father said, "We" are not willing to live with carnage" It is 50 Senators who FailureToCommunicate May 2022 #2
Meanwhile over at FOX "News", right now, they are crying about having their feelings hurt because... JoeOtterbein May 2022 #3
"Why here?" 2 words Botany May 2022 #4
Blah, blah, blah. twodogsbarking May 2022 #5
It's gone on so, so long. It's such a national embarrassment. Magoo48 May 2022 #6
I know it's an awful thought, but I wish they could publish some photos of the school shooting Ziggysmom May 2022 #7
Just May 24th 12 shootings before and 61 after Uvalde, TX Marthe48 May 2022 #8
Car accident deaths are low because ManiacJoe May 2022 #11
Then make guns safer and harder to get Marthe48 May 2022 #13
Guns cannot get much safer. ManiacJoe May 2022 #15
Sure Joe, we have to act. Aussie105 May 2022 #9
It's time to band AR-15 rockfordfile May 2022 #10
It is a popular and common rifle available nation wide. ManiacJoe May 2022 #12
Please, you go first. Do something with your emergency powers. This is an emergency. Magoo48 May 2022 #14

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
2. As Parkland father said, "We" are not willing to live with carnage" It is 50 Senators who
Tue May 24, 2022, 09:25 PM
May 2022

are blocking any meaningful legislation on gun reform, and they hold us hostage.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
3. Meanwhile over at FOX "News", right now, they are crying about having their feelings hurt because...
Tue May 24, 2022, 10:21 PM
May 2022

,,,"Biden is politicizing the deaths of children to improve his poll numbers." Paraphrased, of course.

I don't know why she was saying that and I could not watch anymore to find out.

(angry tears, again over and over and over.....)

Magoo48

(4,705 posts)
6. It's gone on so, so long. It's such a national embarrassment.
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:43 AM
May 2022

If only the good folks would rise up, but, you know; it’s an inconvenience.

The 2nd amendment is a diseased, vestigial structure oozing mayhem and death.

Ziggysmom

(3,406 posts)
7. I know it's an awful thought, but I wish they could publish some photos of the school shooting
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:25 AM
May 2022

victims. Let people see the end result of this GQP gun loving nightmare. Go Mamie Till on their asses. She had the right idea, people should not be protected from the truth. Show executions on live tv, too, why all this snowflake treatment to sugar coat the barbaric end result of our flawed legal system?

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
8. Just May 24th 12 shootings before and 61 after Uvalde, TX
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:39 PM
May 2022

In the 12 shootings before Uvalde, Tx, 2 people were killed and 10 injured. After the musrders by gun in Uvalde, Tx, there were 61 shootings, with 16 deaths and 49 injuries. So just on May 24, 2022, there were 74 shootings listed on Gun Violence Archive, 39 deaths, and 66 injuries. That is 1 day. So far this year, an unbelievable 17,203 people have died from gunshots, another 14,262 have been injured.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours


I found an estimate of traffic fatalities from March 2022. 3570. Not even close to gun fatalities.

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/preliminary-monthly-estimates/

I put the traffic fatalities stats in, just in case anyone is in the mood to equivocate, or compare bullets to black ice. I'm not. It is far past time to stop selling deadly weapons to assholes who think people are targets for their murderous outrages. Get a national db of gun sales. National db of background checks. Stop selling weapons to people under 24, JC, just stop selling guns. Obviously, there are too many people who get guns, not for protection, but for murder.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
11. Car accident deaths are low because
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:24 PM
May 2022

the car engineers have made it really difficult to die in a car accident.
Unfortunately, the number of car accidents has not been lowered.

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
13. Then make guns safer and harder to get
Thu May 26, 2022, 07:04 AM
May 2022

The locks, ban the big magazines, national DB background checks. There will always be people ready and willing to kill other people, but make it harder to kill the entire next generation of a small town.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
15. Guns cannot get much safer.
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:31 AM
May 2022

When was the last time you heard about a gun user getting injured/killed from a malfunctioning gun?

The big problem anti-gunners have with guns is that the gun can be used for both legal and illegal purposes. While the legal uses are 99% of the cases, the anti-gunners want to take the guns away from the legal users (an easy task) while not putting in the effort to disarm the illegal users (a hard task).

Yes, proper secured storage is a good thing. There needs to be a bigger social push for this like there was for discouraging drunk driving back in the 80s and 90s.

The background checks already happen. We just need more agencies feeding the system with the needed data.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
12. It is a popular and common rifle available nation wide.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:27 PM
May 2022

Just like the previous popular and common rifle available nation wide.
There is nothing special about an AR-15 that increases its desire by the killers.

Magoo48

(4,705 posts)
14. Please, you go first. Do something with your emergency powers. This is an emergency.
Thu May 26, 2022, 09:51 AM
May 2022

Propose children boycott schools until something is done, not simply discussed.

Draw up a plan for reform of the 2nd amendment and take it to the people, then congress.

Lead us with bold actions.

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