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TheProle

(2,161 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:19 PM Jun 2022

US Will Face High Gas Prices 'as Long as It Takes,' Biden Says

Source: Bloomberg

US President Joe Biden said Americans will have to stomach high gas prices “as long as it takes” to beat back Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

“As long as it takes, so Russia cannot in fact defeat Ukraine and move beyond Ukraine,” Biden told reporters Thursday in Madrid, in response to a question about how long high gas prices might persist. His comments echoes those of U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, his closest geopolitical ally and one who is facing similar pressures back home about the cost-of-living crisis.

The national average gasoline price hit a record this month above $5 a gallon, even after Biden ordered a historic release from US reserves earlier this year. Prices at the pump have been a main driver of inflation, which has been a major political headache for the Biden administration.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-30/us-will-face-high-gas-prices-as-long-as-it-takes-biden-says#xj4y7vzkg

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US Will Face High Gas Prices 'as Long as It Takes,' Biden Says (Original Post) TheProle Jun 2022 OP
We must sacrifice in the name of freedom. OrlandoDem2 Jun 2022 #1
Oil companies must sacrifice record profits in the name of not being predatory assholes. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #2
2 things can be true at once. OrlandoDem2 Jun 2022 #3
... emulatorloo Jun 2022 #4
On The "Bright" Side modrepub Jul 2022 #26
will get less than 10% of our oil from russia yet prices have doubled. Its oil company greed yaesu Jun 2022 #5
Speculators have driven up the price of RBOB. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #17
The Faux pas Jun 2022 #6
Down 17cents in my neck of the woods. FalloutShelter Jun 2022 #7
Ditto here onetexan Jun 2022 #8
Same here in WNC Traildogbob Jun 2022 #11
Amen to that Traildogbob! onetexan Jun 2022 #15
But not equally... Historic NY Jun 2022 #9
City tax perhaps? jimfields33 Jun 2022 #10
Maybe. Igel Jun 2022 #12
It would be a good time to seriously focus on alternative JI7 Jun 2022 #13
So you want people to buy cars that aren't out there durablend Jun 2022 #19
Since I'm not driving much (retired and avoiding COVID) BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #14
How does he account for the $1.15 increase in the year before the war started? OnlinePoker Jun 2022 #16
On Jan 1, the price was $3.38 speak easy Jul 2022 #30
Good framing which Dems should adopt, but still need to blast profiteering as well. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #18
WTAF?? Seeking Serenity Jul 2022 #20
Job security for writers from other campaigns Colbert Jul 2022 #22
yep... myohmy2 Jul 2022 #24
...and Raygun did hike taxes... roamer65 Jul 2022 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2022 #21
"As long as it takes..." myohmy2 Jul 2022 #23
Nationalize all energy companies. Patton French Jul 2022 #25
You've Been Warned modrepub Jul 2022 #27
There is only one way to combat inflation effectively. roamer65 Jul 2022 #28

modrepub

(3,491 posts)
26. On The "Bright" Side
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jul 2022

Tax revenue should go up. And all the people selling oil stock (to lock in their profit) will be paying taxes. Dropping stock and real estate prices paradoxically increase government revenue (because you don't pay capital gains until you sell).

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
5. will get less than 10% of our oil from russia yet prices have doubled. Its oil company greed
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:26 PM
Jun 2022

not the Ukraine war that is driving prices.

maxsolomon

(33,265 posts)
17. Speculators have driven up the price of RBOB.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:41 PM
Jun 2022

It is a publicly traded commodity.

Speculation is based on the GLOBAL impact the war in Ukraine has had, not the % of Russian crude the US imports.

Faux pas

(14,657 posts)
6. The
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:26 PM
Jun 2022

Effing oil companies need to be called out and taken down. How many other possible ways can we the people be effed over? I'm tired and too old for all this kabuki theater BULLSHIT

Traildogbob

(8,703 posts)
11. Same here in WNC
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jun 2022

But it’s the greed that is the biggest reason. I don’t like him putting it in those terms. Way too many do not give a damn about Ukraine or their “precious right to life”, and will rant that it’s all Biden’s caught for it all. The don’t even care about real freedom for others right here. To hell with paying this much for gas for “them damn furinors”. I don’t think this will play well with those Fox Noise NASCAR fans that will drive a thousand miles to watch the gas guzzlers go in circles. We need to expose the gas profiteers and shout from the hilltops every single damn republican voted against tax break to ease cost and going after illegal gauging. EVERY DAMN ONE.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
9. But not equally...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:34 PM
Jun 2022

Gas in a Brooklyn station 4.29 upstate NY its 20-30 cent or cheaper than in the Hudson Valley. Note the barges have to go north up the Hudson. WTF is that.

[link:https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/new-york/new-york|]

Igel

(35,293 posts)
12. Maybe.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jun 2022

Or boutique blend, or storage and transportation issues, logistics with the gas upstate having been delivered two months ago and the stuff downstate two weeks ago.

No way of knowing from where I sit.

BumRushDaShow

(128,700 posts)
14. Since I'm not driving much (retired and avoiding COVID)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jun 2022

I decided to go top off my tank yesterday (was just above 1/2).

The price in my area was $4.89, down about 10 - 15 cents. I had last filled it (at 1/2) when it was $4.39. Cost was $37, which was for about 7.5 gallons.

I did see and post about a dynamic going on in the background where you have India having switched a huge chunk of their oil contracts from the ME (including Saudi) to Russia, since Russia is selling for fire sale prices. That has left the OPEC members losing a large amount of business (that even Europe might not be able to make up for) due to how much China and India buys and uses...

Meaning that there is some rumbling underground about possible moves at pricing by OPEC to regain some of their marketshare. I think Russia has been selling their oil (last I had looked up) for the equivalent of about $49/bbl.

I also saw this interesting tidbit that one of PA's convenience store chains was doing over the holiday weekend (lowering prices at their convenience stores that sell gas, to "$3.99/$3.49" per gal)-




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OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
16. How does he account for the $1.15 increase in the year before the war started?
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:39 PM
Jun 2022

While it spiked above $5, it's now only $1.35 above where it was at the beginning of the war.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_gas_price

speak easy

(9,219 posts)
30. On Jan 1, the price was $3.38
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 08:24 PM
Jul 2022

Jan - Fen was doninated about the Russian military build up,

Feb 7: Russian attack on Ukraine possible 'any day now'
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-07/white-house-russian-attack-on-ukraine/100809348

On Feb 7, the gas price was $3.53.

So yes, it was the war, and speculation about the war.

Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
20. WTAF??
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:57 AM
Jul 2022

How hopelessly tin-earred to working people who are already stretched thin!

"Russia has done a bad thing to another country, but YOU'RE gonna suffer for it! Your economic pain is a price I'm willing to pay."

Do the president's writers ever listen to themselves??

 

Colbert

(46 posts)
22. Job security for writers from other campaigns
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:29 PM
Jul 2022

They needed to keep the writers from Hillary's campaign employed:

We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
29. ...and Raygun did hike taxes...
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:13 PM
Jul 2022

On the middle class.

His tax debacles started the shift of the tax burden from the wealthy to the middle class.

Response to TheProle (Original post)

myohmy2

(3,152 posts)
23. "As long as it takes..."
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 12:37 AM
Jul 2022

...then he should have said,"...until we nationalize the oil companies so their unconscionable profits won't damage our economy as we support Ukraine."

...that sounds better to me...

...

modrepub

(3,491 posts)
27. You've Been Warned
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 01:58 PM
Jul 2022

High gas prices are probably here to stay, baring a major recession. Long-term, we can not continue to rely on the ICE for our transportation needs. At some point the "cheap" recoverable oil reserves are going to be used up. Car companies have already decided electric cars are the future. Given these 2 "facts", our oil refining capacity is not going to expand. Why would business or banks finance billions of dollars to build something that won't operate (and derive revenue to pay off the construction cost) for more than a decade or so?

This means, the longer you hold onto your ICE vehicle, the more exposed you are to extreme price shocks due to limited refining capacity, or anytime someone sneezes in the Middle East or some 2nd-3rd world dictator with oil reserves decides he wants to rattle everyones' cage.

Change is coming. You can either adapt to it or pay the consequences of your stubbornness.

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