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Polybius

(15,381 posts)
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 11:50 PM Sep 2022

SC Democrats call on their party's US Senate nominee to quit

Source: Associated Press

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The South Carolina Democrat vying to oust Republican U.S. Sen. Tim Scott is facing calls from within her own party to fold her campaign, following the publication of additional leaked audio in which she appears to make disparaging remarks about her constituents.

The calls for state Rep. Krystle Matthews to withdraw just two months ahead of the general election came Thursday in reaction to leaked audio published by conservative activist group Project Veritas of Matthews speaking to one of its members, without her knowledge.

Sitting in a restaurant, Matthews, who is Black, is heard saying that she represents a “mostly white” district, adding, of white voters: “I keep them right here — like under my thumbs. ... Otherwise, they get out of control — like kids.”

“You ought to know who you’re dealing with,” Matthews goes on to say. “You’ve got to treat them like s—-. That’s the only way they’ll respect you.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-campaigns-south-carolina-general-tim-scott-968b58c3a799215444e596d92eb8cf7d



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SC Democrats call on their party's US Senate nominee to quit (Original Post) Polybius Sep 2022 OP
Ugh. 😵 Demovictory9 Sep 2022 #1
Project Veritas is known to selectively edit recordings, so how believable is this? Ocelot II Sep 2022 #2
Not very, IMO Warpy Sep 2022 #3
Exactly! mountain grammy Sep 2022 #18
Why would the FBI Zeitghost Sep 2022 #49
It's not believable at all Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #21
Why would Scott be scarred? He's projected to win madville Sep 2022 #37
Sorry about my bad spelling. I swear I spelled checked it. Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #39
538 has SC at +25 to Scott right now madville Sep 2022 #40
Are they really gullible enough to believe something that came from Project Veritas? LoisB Sep 2022 #4
Oh well, she's done forever as a candidate if that's true. brush Sep 2022 #5
Krystle Matthews' Response.. & most of the Cha Sep 2022 #33
If She Were repub, They Would EMBRACE Her SoCalDavidS Sep 2022 #6
I don't trust ANYTHING from Project Veritas. They. MANIPULATE video and take it out of context CousinIT Sep 2022 #7
+1000s DinahMoeHum Sep 2022 #8
And thats just what we KNOW they have done previously quakerboy Sep 2022 #9
True. Unfortunately pearl clutchers will be pearl clutchers. n/t MarcA Sep 2022 #29
If she is guilty, she should apologize and step down and work her ass off to register voters or help Samrob Sep 2022 #10
I'd challenge Project Veritas before wnylib Sep 2022 #12
This sounds more like a mean boss talking about employees. raging moderate Sep 2022 #11
If true, she's probably done in this election JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2022 #13
Yeah! I mean, who does she think she is? Donald Trump? (nt) Paladin Sep 2022 #15
REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Sep 2022 #41
You actually believe.... AZ8theist Sep 2022 #27
True, they are ratfuckers. The question is ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2022 #32
Even if they had a recording..... AZ8theist Sep 2022 #43
Are you guys still being "honorable"? F*** That! BasicallyComplicated Sep 2022 #14
There's a difference between making controversial statements and insulting your voters. brooklynite Sep 2022 #17
On recordings from project veritas????? Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #19
Based on what Project Veritas said? mountain grammy Sep 2022 #20
I don't care that Project Veritas provoked her; she said what she said. brooklynite Sep 2022 #22
I care.. I want a Democrat running for that seat mountain grammy Sep 2022 #25
If she drops out the SCDP will pick a replacement...hopefully with better temperament. brooklynite Sep 2022 #26
Read the article mountain grammy Sep 2022 #30
Provoked is one thing. Altered and manipulated the tape is another thing entirely. DFW Sep 2022 #35
Don't cha know, Dems have to be Ivory Snow Pure ..... LenaBaby61 Sep 2022 #42
Didn't even realize Scott was up this year 867-5309. Sep 2022 #16
He's projected to win by 30+% madville Sep 2022 #38
"tongue-in-cheek" exchange didn't reflect the full picture quaint Sep 2022 #23
Her response: demmiblue Sep 2022 #24
C'mon, let's not accept FACTS... AZ8theist Sep 2022 #28
I don't know who Matthews is kwolf68 Sep 2022 #31
Thanks for the link to the whole story, Cha. I hope she gets... brush Sep 2022 #34
We Democrats are so quick to sacrifice our own for perceived slights pfitz59 Sep 2022 #36
She has no chance of winning but I don't trust the source at all JI7 Sep 2022 #44
What's your objection to the Associated Press? brooklynite Sep 2022 #45
I'm talking about project veritas. AP only reported what happened JI7 Sep 2022 #46
It's true and she doubled down CockyJ Sep 2022 #47
if true llashram Sep 2022 #48

Warpy

(111,241 posts)
3. Not very, IMO
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:04 AM
Sep 2022

I hate to play "shoot the messenger," but this messenger should have been bumped off years ago.

She needs to turn the recording over to the FBI. If it has been subjected to selective editing, they can turn it up.

And that's when she sues the hell out of those assholes.

ETA: I'm sick to death of the Democratic circular firing squad on the basis of iffy information. Get this recording a forensic examination and proceed from there.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
21. It's not believable at all
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:15 AM
Sep 2022

Last edited Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:55 AM - Edit history (1)

There are sooooooo many ways this could have been faked.

She must be scaring the crap out of Scott for him to call in the scammers at large.

Now, she needs to come out hard and deny their lies and manipulations. Ride the news cycle to get her name out there. Just Another innocent victim of project veritas.

People like strong people who stand up to scammers and cons.

madville

(7,408 posts)
37. Why would Scott be scarred? He's projected to win
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:39 AM
Sep 2022

By 30-35%. No one has even done any polling in SC it’s so lopsided.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
39. Sorry about my bad spelling. I swear I spelled checked it.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:53 AM
Sep 2022

Damn you spell check.

But if they have no polling, how can they project who is winning? And why call out the big scammers to smear her?

Maybe they were just testing their dirty tricks.

brush

(53,764 posts)
5. Oh well, she's done forever as a candidate if that's true.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:21 AM
Sep 2022

Have to be careful who you grant interviews to.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
6. If She Were repub, They Would EMBRACE Her
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:28 AM
Sep 2022

But Democrats obviously have a conscience.

No big deal. It's not like we had a real chance in Deep Red SC.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
7. I don't trust ANYTHING from Project Veritas. They. MANIPULATE video and take it out of context
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:53 AM
Sep 2022

to make it sound like people said things they did NOT say.

NOPE. Not buying it.

quakerboy

(13,919 posts)
9. And thats just what we KNOW they have done previously
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:12 AM
Sep 2022

In the age of deep fakes, and in light of their having receeded back into obscurity, I would believe they would do literally anything to try and get back in the limelight or harm the people they are paid to harm.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
10. If she is guilty, she should apologize and step down and work her ass off to register voters or help
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 05:30 AM
Sep 2022

in other ways. Do SC Dems have a new candidate who can run. No should run without a challenger.

wnylib

(21,425 posts)
12. I'd challenge Project Veritas before
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 08:05 AM
Sep 2022

I would suggest anything to the candidate.

Project Veritas has no credibility.

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
11. This sounds more like a mean boss talking about employees.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:01 AM
Sep 2022

It seems as though it may have been taken out of context. Although I would not approve of that attitude to employees, either. But it could also have been an awkward attempt at satire.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
13. If true, she's probably done in this election
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 08:17 AM
Sep 2022

and maybe her district could find some other candidate for 2024.

If Project Veritas has her words recorded, it would indicate she's disrespectful of some group. Whether it's constituents, employees, colleagues, that may be less clear. Disrespect on that scale toward any group should be a disqualifier.

If true.

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
27. You actually believe....
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 11:30 AM
Sep 2022

That O'Keef and Veritas are legit?
They are Reich Wing Repuke RAT FUCKERS.

ANYTHING coming from them is BULLSHIT.

The fact people on here believe this garbage is UNBELEIVABLE.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
32. True, they are ratfuckers. The question is ...
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 02:50 PM
Sep 2022

... do they have a recording of her saying those words? In any context?

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
43. Even if they had a recording.....
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 04:49 AM
Sep 2022

you can rest assured they would cut and paste and splice and edit and manipulate the words to convey THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what was actually said.
O'Keff is a motherfucking scumbag asshole who needs to spend the rest of his putrid existence in prison.
A bigger liar you cannot find. (well, besides Doturd, that is.....)

14. Are you guys still being "honorable"? F*** That!
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 08:50 AM
Sep 2022

Double down on anything controversial, blame your opponent and ride the media coverage! Have we learned NOTHING! No stepping down or backing out! It’s too important. We have show up. Just conceding races on principle is stupid and WEAK!!!

brooklynite

(94,495 posts)
17. There's a difference between making controversial statements and insulting your voters.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 09:48 AM
Sep 2022

Happy to get rid of her.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
19. On recordings from project veritas?????
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:09 AM
Sep 2022

Nothing from them is honest or real. It's all faked and manipulated.

For all we know she was talking about white criminals or they took words and pasted them into a normal sounding conversation. Project veritas is a scam and all BS.

DO NOT TRUST them ever.

mountain grammy

(26,614 posts)
20. Based on what Project Veritas said?
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:10 AM
Sep 2022

kind of like Al Franken right? Were you happy to "get rid" of him? Do you have any idea the courage it takes these days to run as a Democrat in the South?
But by all means, let's "get rid" of anyone the right takes on?

brooklynite

(94,495 posts)
22. I don't care that Project Veritas provoked her; she said what she said.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:21 AM
Sep 2022

A good candidate knows how to deal with hecklers, and knows how to stick to her message. She apparently does not.

mountain grammy

(26,614 posts)
25. I care.. I want a Democrat running for that seat
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:59 AM
Sep 2022

and Project Veritas does not..

That's the only issue here. Tim Scott is an awful Senator, just awful. He shouldn't run unopposed.

DFW

(54,338 posts)
35. Provoked is one thing. Altered and manipulated the tape is another thing entirely.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 08:33 AM
Sep 2022

It sounds like this "Project Veritas" has about as much "veritas" as Fox "News" has news. I.e. none.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
42. Don't cha know, Dems have to be Ivory Snow Pure .....
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 01:57 AM
Sep 2022

NO one but the almighty is pure IMO. Check that, the GQP US Taliban who wants to force women/little girls to have their rapists babies" Party is pure as the driven snow. Really

And good Lord, Look at Donald treasonous, racist, sexist, pussy-grabbing tRump. He's still walking around free as a bird, lying, pushing the big lie, eating, flushing and stealing sensitive docs by the box-load, and trying to start another civil insurrection and get his militia to shoot blacks, non-whites, gays et al, and even if a Dem did say a wrong thing like this woman did, so what? Look at tRump and a whole long line of folks that are non-black who get away with murder literally. tRump literally sold the country OUT and you have his insane, racist MAGGOTS still defending his ass. I mean. You know, he more than likely sold this country out for "chicken change" as that lyric goes in the James Brown's "big payback." Matt Gaetz is still a predator, pervert probably got agents in the field killed, because we really don't know what that pig was doing when he first stole the presidency in 2016. Matt Gaetz is probably still dating underage girls, and he's chillaxing in the congress and talking smack about "WOKE" Dems/liberals and look at what he's probably gotten away with. But Dems must be polite, perfect little angels all the damn time. I had--and I said had a friend because she lives in la la land, and she told me that Biden was wrong to call out MAGA, because that rhetoric makes him just as evil and hateful as tRump And yes, this ex-friend was white, and called herself a Dem. Could have fooled me. But, I have white friends who'd have told her off in a hot minute if they'd have her her talking the shit she was talking to me on the phone last week. WHEN the hell did Pres. Biden call or a US civil insurrection or call for a Dem Militia to go to the US Capitols to subvert elections? When did he call for a Dem militia to destroy our democracy, and try to turn this country back into what it was in the 1800's? A place where blacks were burned alive right after church services or were lynched while pregnant or flat out just plain murdered. I guess my ex-friend probably thought that Derek Chauvin 'accidentally' murdered George Floyd like Brett Farve was basically saying. Blacks have NO cheeks left TO turn.

It's rumored that Michelle Obama now has misgivings about saying that when they (GQP'ers) go low, we go high. IF true, she really needn't have said that, because my other friend told me that the woman who called Michelle an ape in heels never apologized to her, and told me that the white woman who said that this country is too sensitive. Happy that fat Petunia-looking, racist pig lost her job--that racist pos. I agree with former attorney general Holder who said that when the GQP US Taliban party goes low, kick 'em. We may never know the extent of what fatass45 did to this country, because he's done SO much. Most in the GQP are hanging right in there mostly with him though, still. Greene and her racist, anti-semetic, treasonous ass taking about Jewish space lasers. But I guess it's okay for her to be anti-Semetic. Good Lord I've lost 10 friends--white and black--since tReasonous tRump stole the presidency 2016. Didn't know that they were that damn weak.

As for this piece of racist, lying filth Project Veritas:

Pair pleads guilty to stealing Ashley Biden's diary, selling it to Project Veritas.

Two Florida residents have pleaded guilty to stealing the diary of Ashley Biden, President Joe Biden's youngest daughter, and then selling it to right-wing activist group Project Veritas, the Justice Department announced Thursday.

Aimee Harris, 40, and Robert Kurlander, 58, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit interstate transportation of stolen property involving the theft of personal belongings of an immediate family member of a then-former government official for taking several items belonging to Ashley Biden in September 2020. The charge carries a maximum of five years in prison.

Kurlander has also agreed to cooperate with the government.

Though Ashley Biden, 41, is not named in the court documents, a source familiar with the case confirmed they were her belongings.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pair-plead-guilty-stealing-ashley-bidens-diary-selling/story?id=88849834

Sting Video Purports To Show Democrats Describing How To Commit Voter Fraud.
As Donald Trump warns about the prospect of a "rigged" presidential election, he's getting some help from a conservative activist group.

Project Veritas, which has carried out several damaging video sting operations, has posted videos in recent days purporting to show Democratic operatives bragging about inciting violence at Trump's campaign events, and appearing to detail how they could bus out-of-state supporters in to commit voter fraud.

Dark Talk Of A Rigged Election Signals New Emphasis For Trump Campaign
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Dark Talk Of A Rigged Election Signals New Emphasis For Trump Campaign
"Once again Donald Trump was ahead of his times," campaign manager Kellyanne Conway told Fox News on Tuesday night. "He's been talking about this for the last couple days."

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/19/498587397/sting-video-purports-to-show-democrats-describing-how-to-commit-voter-fraud

madville

(7,408 posts)
38. He's projected to win by 30+%
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:41 AM
Sep 2022

There hasn’t even been any polling done in SC for this race because it’s so lopsided.

quaint

(2,561 posts)
23. "tongue-in-cheek" exchange didn't reflect the full picture
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:52 AM
Sep 2022

From OP's link:

At the time of the earlier release, ahead of South Carolina’s June primary runoff, Matthews confirmed to The Associated Press that it was her voice on the tape but said the edited audio of a “tongue-in-cheek” exchange didn’t reflect the full picture.

Should be a rule: No joking in restaurants.

demmiblue

(36,838 posts)
24. Her response:
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:56 AM
Sep 2022
In response to the leak, Matthews stood by what she said.

Aren’t you tired of politicians selling out our communities, spitting on our working families, and exploiting the rights of our women and children? While taking community pictures and kissing our babies, our favorite legislators wash their hands and sweep what our community needs under the rug. What would you call that? I call that SH**, and my mother raised me to treat something exactly how it is! So when I stated to that undercover journalist Chris Williams in that satirical MAGA Powered news outlet Project Veritas, “to treat these MAGA Republicans like SH**.” I SAID WHAT I SAID! Play the whole tape “PROJECT VERITAS,” so the people will know who I was referring to. Regardless of race, I love everyone. One thing you can learn from Project Veritas’ first audio attack on me is obviously, I have no biases towards a certain ethnic group. I expressed my disgust for Black legislators who exhibit the same hypocrisy as MAGA Republicans. This is why I am challenging MAGA’s favorite Black legislator, Tim Scott. Understand I never proposed to be an orthodox candidate. I’m a community advocate who the people favored enough to have me take the seat of a Republican incumbent. Through that same favor, I plan to do the same thing with the United States Senate seat currently held by Republican incumbent Tim Scott. Unfortunately, serving in the statehouse has given me a direct view of the treachery a lot of the legislators I previously had respect for are indulging in. One thing I regret and apologize for from the private audio call was allowing myself to get out of character and make someone feel I’m okay with accepting funding from toxins that have poisoned the very communities I serve. My objective was to let him know in this fight we need everyone’s vote, including the Duffel bag boys to win the election, and obviously went off script! Make no mistake when I said we have to fight certain fires with fire, engage with marginalized communities and send sleepers to infiltrate the Republican Party and tear their house down. I’ve been doing that effectively as you will see in November. I SAID WHAT I SAID RESPECTFULLY.

https://www.live5news.com/2022/09/08/lowcountry-rep-reacts-leaked-audio-i-said-what-i-said/





Apparently, this is not the first leaked audio (I haven't listened to the previous one... I have no idea what it is all about or who put it out there)

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
28. C'mon, let's not accept FACTS...
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 11:36 AM
Sep 2022

Instead of what James O'Keef and Project Veritas said!!
After all, O'Keef and Veritas are upstanding, HONEST AMERICAN PATRIOTS!!



O'Keef and his Anti-American, racist, scumbag organization BELONG IN FUCKING PRISON.

RAT.
FUCKING.
SCUMBAGS.
PERIOD.

brush

(53,764 posts)
34. Thanks for the link to the whole story, Cha. I hope she gets...
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:45 PM
Sep 2022

what really happened and what was really said out.

pfitz59

(10,349 posts)
36. We Democrats are so quick to sacrifice our own for perceived slights
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 09:24 AM
Sep 2022

without getting the full story. Anything put out by 'Project Veritas' should be considered a lie.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
44. She has no chance of winning but I don't trust the source at all
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 05:03 AM
Sep 2022

in fact becsuse of the source I will assume this is fake unless proven otherwise.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
46. I'm talking about project veritas. AP only reported what happened
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 09:06 AM
Sep 2022

they didn't confirm the recording is accurate.

 

CockyJ

(3 posts)
47. It's true and she doubled down
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 09:39 AM
Sep 2022

I live in SC and can confirm that the voice recording and the video recording are true and not changed nor taken out of context. Matthews, herself, has confirmed this and has doubled down and said she stands by what she said. She already had zero chance to win but now I'm concerned that she could hurt our other Democrat candidates.She needs to apologize and drop out immediately.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
48. if true
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 12:51 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Tue Sep 13, 2022, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)

oh no. And the poster has done nothing wrong. To me, this nominee is on a power trip. Representation, not oppression.

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