Hurricane Ian nears Cuba on path to strike Florida as Cat 4
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Source: AP
HAVANA (AP) Hurricane Ian was growing stronger as it approached the western tip of Cuba on Monday, on a track to hit the west coast of Florida as a major hurricane as early as Wednesday. Ian was forecast to hit Cuba as a major hurricane and then become an even stronger Category 4 with top winds of 140 miles (225 kilometers) over warm Gulf of Mexico waters before striking Florida along a stretch of coast including the Tampa Bay area.
Please treat this storm seriously. Its the real deal. This is not a drill, Hillsborough County Emergency Management Director Timothy Dudley said at a Monday news conference on storm preparations in Tampa. Authorities in Cuba suspended classes in Pinar del Rio province and planned evacuations Monday as Ian gained strength on approach to Grand Cayman and the Cuban provinces of Isla de Juventud, Pinar del Rio and Artemisa. Cuba also was shutting down its train system ahead of the worst weather.
Cuba is expecting extreme hurricane force winds, also life threatening storm surge and heavy rainfall, U.S. National Hurricane Center senior specialist Daniel Brown told The Associated Press early Monday. At 11 a.m. EDT on Monday, Ian was moving northwest at 13 mph (20 kph), about 240 miles (385 kilometers) southeast of the western tip of Cuba, with top sustained winds increasing to 80 mph (130 kph).
As the hurricane approached the Cayman Islands, members of the government and opposition were working together to ensure that our people are made as safe as possible -- the supplies, plywood, in some cases sandbags, are distributed so that they can safely weather this storm, Premier Wayne Panton said in a video posted Sunday. We must prepare for the worst and absolutely pray and hope for the best.
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/storms-hurricanes-florida-cuba-evacuations-5ca1bc4f27ff637e94f0d6cfd906755e
And the GOM is bathwater. Depending on how much of Cuba the eye travels across will determine how much it gets disrupted before recovering and doing its final run to the SE U.S.
11 am EDT 5-day cone update -
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Authorities in Cuba suspended classes in Pinar del Rio province and planned evacuations Monday as Ian gained strength on approach to Grand Cayman and the Cuban provinces of Isla de Juventud, Pinar del Rio and Artemisa. Cuba also was shutting down its train system ahead of the worst weather.
"Cuba is expecting extreme hurricane force winds, also life threatening storm surge and heavy rainfall," U.S. National Hurricane Center senior specialist Daniel Brown told The Associated Press early Monday. At 8 a.m. EDT on Monday, Ian was moving northwest at 14 mph (22 kph), about 90 miles (145 kilometers) west-southwest of Grand Cayman, sustaining top winds of 75 mph (120 kph).
In the Cayman Islands, members of the government and opposition were working together "to ensure that our people are made as safe as possible -- the supplies, plywood, in some cases sandbags, are distributed so that they can safely weather this storm," Premier Wayne Panton said in a video posted Sunday. "We must prepare for the worst and absolutely pray and hope for the best."
HAVANA (AP) -- Hurricane Ian moved near the Cayman Islands and closer to western Cuba early Monday on a track to hit Florida as a major hurricane this week. Ian was forecast to intensify rapidly and become a major hurricane as soon as late Monday before becoming an even stronger Category 4 hurricane over warm Gulf of Mexico waters before striking the west central coast of Florida on Wednesday.
Authorities in Cuba suspended classes in Pinar del Rio province and planned evacuations Monday as Ian gained strength on approach to Grand Cayman and the Cuban provinces of Isla de Juventud, Pinar del Rio and Artemisa. "Cuba is expecting extreme hurricane force winds, also life threatening storm surge and heavy rainfall," U.S. National Hurricane Center senior specialist Daniel Brown told The Associated Press early Monday.
The U.S. National Hurricane Center said Ian should reach far-western Cuba late Monday or early Tuesday, hitting near the country's most famed tobacco fields. Cuba state media outlet Granma said authorities would begin evacuating people from vulnerable areas early Monday in Pinar del Rio. Classes there have been suspended. At 8 a.m. EDT on Monday, Ian was moving northwest at 14 mph (22 kph), about 90 miles (145 kilometers) west-southwest of Grand Cayman, according to the center. It had maximum sustained winds of 75 mph (120 kph).
"Ian is not expected to spend much time over western Cuba, and additional strengthening is likely over the southeastern Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday," the hurricane center said. "Ian is likely to have an expanding wind field and will be slowing down by that time, which will have the potential to produce significant wind and storm surge impacts along the west coast of Florida." Florida residents were getting ready, lining up for hours in Tampa to collect bags of sand and clearing store shelves of bottled water.
Original article -
Authorities in Cuba suspended classes in Pinar del Rio province and said they will begin evacuations Monday as Ian was forecast to strengthen before reaching the western part of the island on its way to Florida.
A hurricane warning was in effect for Grand Cayman and the Cuban provinces of Isla de Juventud, Pinar del Rio and Artemisa. The U.S. National Hurricane Center said Ian should reach the far-western part of Cuba late Monday or early Tuesday, hitting near the country's most famed tobacco fields. It could become a major hurricane before a likely landfall in Florida around the middle of the week, possibly the state's western coast or Panhandle
Cuba state media outlet Granma said authorities would begin evacuating people from vulnerable areas early Monday in the far-western province of Pinar del Rio. Classes there have been suspended. At 5 a.m. EDT on Monday, Ian was moving northwest at 13 mph (20 kph), about 90 miles (150 kilometers) southwest of Grand Cayman, according to the center. It had maximum sustained winds of 75 mph (120 kph).
jaxexpat
(6,801 posts)She has accumulated a lot of stained-glass materials and equipment over the years. Would be a painfully sharp and colorful mess to clean up.
in sunny Florida
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)be aware that the back end of it will be throwing wind/rain over your area and what might exacerbate all of this is that we are in a New Moon so the tides are already running higher than normal.
jaxexpat
(6,801 posts)Thanks to my experience in land surveying I made sure my home's floor elevation was more than 20' above mean sea level. Drainage is no problem either, the creek in my back yard drains directly into the St Johns river, tidal at that point.
Wind is the enemy. Flying debris its weapons. There is also the inevitable power outage but with a few empty milk cartons filled with water, frozen in and blankets on the freezer, all should last for long enough. and for good luck!
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)And having a creek to drain away water is helpful. One of my sisters has a creek at the bottom of the slope of her backyard that was naturally formed by an old earthquake fault and water drains into it and eventually exits into a nearby watershed. She is in a hilly area and near the bottom of one of the hills (but has just a bit of additional downslope before an adjacent hill ascends). She has sent me a pic from one time during the almost 20 years she has lived there, when the creek actually went out of its banks, which is rare but at least it was doing its job. The unfortunate issue was that the township had run the electric lines on poles right along that creek which were "hidden" by the trees that were planted when the houses were first built so.... you can imagine.
Crossing fingers for you guys!
jaxexpat
(6,801 posts)Could happen on any day that ends in "y", I hear. Not sure if would help the hurricane thing but it would break up the monotony of anticipation.
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)to drain away any excess rain.
jaxexpat
(6,801 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)waterspout distraction!
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)woodsprite
(11,904 posts)They live near Englewood FL on a pond. Said they put the hurricane shutters up, laid in food and water, have propane and 2 grills. I dont know if any of their neighbors are staying. Mom said stores shelves are pretty bare, gas stations are sold out, and no hotel rooms available north of them. My niece is flying up to VA from the Keys today with her 1-yr old. Her hubby is in the Coast Guard down there and already shipped out to sea.
Sending all DUers in the path good thoughts/prayers that everyone stays safe!
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)is surge and the fact that we are in a New Moon, where usually a few days before/after, the tides tend to run higher (not as high as during a Full Moon but still elevated). It doesn't appear to be directed for landfall that far "south" but it might still pack more of a punch down that way before weakening as it moves north and onto land.
woodsprite
(11,904 posts)to the nearest beach, so they're hoping not to see much effect. During any of the previous storms, the longest they have been without power was 3 days, so they prepped for longer than that.
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)and then having the winds pushing that water around in a destructive way (let alone any excessive rain to add to that).
I only found out last year during Ida, where one portion of one of our smaller rivers that cuts through the city (Schuylkill in Philly) actually has a tidal lower portion that eventually leads into the Delaware River that itself feeds into the Delaware Bay. The upper portion has no such tidal variation so it was fascinating to look at the USGS gauge readings for it and see the ups and downs corresponding to the tides right downtown!
Unfortunately last year around this time, a couple big pumps failed along the below grade expressway that goes river to river across the city as the remnants of Ida passed over us, and instead of the "Vine St. Expressway" we ended up with the "Vine St. Canal".
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)The Cuba strike will greatly increase the extent. Passage over gulf waters will feed the larger storm. Then . .
The GFS run has the dirty side hitting Tampa Bay and greatly slowing down about that time.
Tampa is highly susceptible to storm surge flooding, possibly more than any other major gulf metro. The Probability is lower than New Orleans, Houston or the Port Arthur area because of it being located on the west side of Florida, providing a harder to hit target based on typical tropical clone paths.
But the big one will hit, someday . . .
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)although it has come more in agreement with the EC.
I think folks might recall the last time there was some dramatic blowout tides and then later surge in Tampa Bay with Irma, which was wild!
If they get the right-front quadrant... ugh.
The steering generated by the way the trough sitting over my area in Philly amplifies (or not) is gonna help determine how it moves (along with the high to the west).
Cheezoholic
(2,006 posts)The runs today will have full sets of data from the NOAA GIV high altitude missions sampling the atmosphere around 40k ft out ahead of the storm. NWS offices from Fl all the way to NY are Now doing weather balloon releases twice a day so the models can get more data on that trough inputted.
And a few newer instruments are being used, bathyspheres dropped from the planes to measure ocean temperatur down to as far as a 1k ft which gives the models how much fuel is really down there. And also sea air drones. NOAA will be sending small drone boats with instruments directly into the eye to measure wave height, sea temp and overall interaction at the water atmosphere interface which is still poorly understood. The air drones have been used for a few years now and they can fly them in at very low altitudes into the eyewalls of storms without risking crews. They will be throwing the proverbial kitchen sink of instruments at this thing along with the constant Hurricane Hunter flights by NOAA and the Air National Guard.
Data, data, data. The more the better.
Note Can anybody get me a ticket on a hurricane hunter flight? I'd die happy if that could happen lol
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)and the 6Z & 18Z only have partial data. I did sub to Pivotal Weather to get some more Euro run data plus get to look at the NBM (which I think was really good this past winter handling some of the marginal frozen events here, considering it's just a model "blend" ).
There was supposed to be an upgrade this year for the GFS to run it more often with more data but haven't checked the status of that since spring.
Tropical Tidbits tracks the NOAA and AF recons here (including near real-time dropsonde data) - https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/
There's one in progress right now in Ian - https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/#NOAA9-1609A-IAN
Cheezoholic
(2,006 posts)Called Tropicalatlantic.com . It's great for recon data. He's got realtime decoders of the raw data from the planes and it's a lot easier to go back and look at previous flights than Levi's. One of the coolest things he has is dowloadable kml files of live recon you can open in google earth and they update about every 5 minutes.
Kinda partial to it. The kid (well young man now lol) designed the site when he was 15 back in the 90's when we used to hang out at Hurricanecity.com. I helped him with some of the decoders but he did the work. really smart young man. The Hurricane Hunters were so impressed with his site back then they not only used his decoders they invited him for a personal tour of their aircraft when he was still in high school lol.
Anyway I like his site for recon data over most others and the Google Earth plugin is really cool.
http://tropicalatlantic.com/models/models.cgi?basin=al&year=2022&storm=09
Edit: His site will also give you real time radar data from the recon flights if available
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)but the only issue is that they haven't converted to using the more secure "https" and thus my Firefox refuses to connect to it (unless I jump through a lot of hoops or look at it in Edge or Chrome).
Out of my huge list of bookmarks, I'll also sometimes go to this (somewhat "busy" ) site - https://spaghettimodels.com/
He's got a pile of cool little panels of stuff there.
Cheezoholic
(2,006 posts)Cheezoholic
(2,006 posts)then at one point he had so much crap on there it wouldn't load half the time lol
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)as my weather bookmarks list is so long it takes me forever to scroll through to find what I want.
Cheezoholic
(2,006 posts)That trough aint acting like they thought 2 days ago. Im telling ya they've struggled with this pattern for awhile
BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)Cheezoholic
(2,006 posts)Been away for a few hours but on VDM's the most important lines for a strengthening storm are Line P and Line Q. The bigger that spread is in temp the faster the pressure is going to drop...
Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KBIX)
Disseminated Through: Keesler AFB, backup for KNHC (TPC/NHC)
Transmitted: 27th day of the month at 1:33Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF96-5301
Storm Name: Ian
Storm Number & Year: 09 in 2022 (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 18
Observation Number: 14
A. Time of Center Fix: 27th day of the month at 1:02:30Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 21.02N 83.39W
B. Center Fix Location: 98 statute miles (158 km) to the S (169°) from Pinar del Río, Cuba.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 2,799m (9,183ft) at 700mb
D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 964mb (28.47 inHg)
E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center: From 145° at 21kts (From the SE at 24mph)
F. Eye Character: Closed
G. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 18 nautical miles (21 statute miles)
H. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 79kts (90.9mph)
I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 12 nautical miles (14 statute miles) to the WNW (298°) of center fix at 0:59:00Z
J. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 47° at 68kts (From the NE at 78.3mph)
K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 19 nautical miles (22 statute miles) to the WNW (303°) of center fix at 0:57:00Z
L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 69kts (79.4mph)
M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 15 nautical miles (17 statute miles) to the SE (136°) of center fix at 1:08:30Z
N. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 215° at 88kts (From the SW at 101.3mph)
O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 20 nautical miles (23 statute miles) to the SE (136°) of center fix at 1:10:00Z
P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 9°C (48°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,047m (9,997ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 17°C (63°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,050m (10,007ft)
R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 2°C (36°F)
R. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
S. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
S. Fix Level: 700mb
T. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
T. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile
Remarks Section:
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 91kts (~ 104.7mph) which was observed 22 nautical miles (25 statute miles) to the NE (50°) from the flight level center at 23:31:30Z
honest.abe
(8,614 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,458 posts)There's a Hurricane Hunter in there right now doing the perimeters and passes over the center - https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/#NOAA9-1609A-IAN