Moment of Truth in Trump Case After 'Extraordinary' Late Night Legal Battle

[MayReasonRule]

Source: The Daily Beast

"A heated battle over whether a Trump attorney can be forced to testify is now in the hands of an appeals court."

"A U.S. appeals court is expected to rule shortly on whether Trump attorney Evan Corcoran can appear before a grand jury in Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago classified documents case."

"The move comes after a dizzying saga overnight, in which the U.S. Department of Justice and attorneys for Trump filed dueling motions over Corcoran's testimony. At the heart of the battling motions is a Friday ruling in which a federal judge reportedly sided with the DOJ, finding that Corcoran could be compelled to testify because prosecutors had sufficient evidence Trump may have used one of his defense attorneys in an alleged bid to mislead investigators."

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/appeals-court-makes-extraordinary-late-night-demands-in-trump-mar-a-lago-case?ref=scroll

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This might be a few things, all of which are speculation:

1) There is some imminent threat to National security at issue.
2) There could be concern about interfering with an active grand jury.
3) The court is all done being used for delays
4) A combination of things.

It's al under seal, so there's no real way to know until it's ultimately revealed.
Whatever it is, the court deemed it important enough to go at it lightspeed handling the complaint.

Attorney client is sacrosanct. Piercing it, even in a national security context of criminal activity is rare. That lawyer is important to the investigation.

Optics and the lack thereof, color this in my mind as an espionage case that's an imminent national security issue.
I can't think of any other reason they would move this quickly.

I am not an officer of any court.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

1. There were some filings last night/early morning

Link to tweet

?s=20

[MayReasonRule]

2. Yes indeed, those are the filings referenced

Thank you for the additional information!

[Delphinus]

3. Holy cow!

Kudos to the DOJ - are they just prepared, knowing the cheeto will try every shenanigan one could think about?

[czarjak]

4. Marc Short is trying to cover his butt. Period.

[MayReasonRule]

6. I'm Out Of That Loop, How Do These Legal Proceedings Impact Marc Short?

[czarjak]

9. I just know Marc is a chickenshit if there ever was one.

Thought he'd stuck a fat hog when he became COS for Pussy-Pence. How's that working out now, Little Marco? There's more than one.

[MayReasonRule]

10. LoL... Nat-Cs Are Losers And Chicken Shit Cowards -- Its The Nature Of The Beast

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. Short isn't involved in this hearing. Nt

[czarjak]

21. Did not say he was. He was mentioned, and I'm always reminded of an asshole.

[Joinfortmill]

5. Good. Enough of this despicable creature who poses as a human being.

[gab13by13]

7. I don't see a delay happening

"The appeals court’s order — from Judges Cornelia Pillard, J. Michelle Childs and Florence Pan, all Democratic appointees — doesn’t identify Corcoran or the case at issue but makes clear that the government was on the winning side of the case in Howell’s court."

It seems to me the Appeals court has already made up its mind.

[Novara]

8. I'd love to know why this was unusually expedited

Of course, we're short on details, but the emergency nature of these proceedings has me really, really curious why the incredible hurry.

[gab13by13]

11. Let's look at it from another perspective,

Why Not? Maybe the courts are getting fed up with frivolous appeals? If there is no substance to an appeal why delay a decision for months? Maybe this is just a case of Occam's razor?

[Novara]

13. I don't think the court would make the DOJ lawyers work through the night ...

... just because they're tired of the bullshit. Fast would be giving a day to file this. Instead, it all happened practically overnight. That's lightning speed.

There's a specific reason this all happened in the dead of night.

[MayReasonRule]

14. When It Comes To Trump et al... Occam's Razor, Machiavelli and Darwin Always Apply

Your comments are on point.

My sense is that there are now a plethora of straws that have broken the proverbial camel's back.

One might also frame this as all of Trump's Strawmen and other Henchmen, being torn all asunder by reasons swift wind.

Remember kids, always fatten your strawmen on red herring buffets before deployment...

"Hamberders" won't do.

[Happy Hoosier]

20. Maybe?

But kinda rough to demand the Federal prosecutors to deliver a response in 6 hours.... overnight.

Oof.

That indicates to me it's not just frustration with Trump's people, but maybe another external friver, like a scheduled appearance and the witness's availability. For example, what if they know that Trump's awyer is gonna be pretty busy very soon, so they want to make sure they can meet an appearance window that supports that.

[MayReasonRule]

25. An Interesting Observation Indeed!

Time will tell, it'll be enlightening once it does.

[MayReasonRule]

12. Yes Indeed, This Is An Extraordinarily Rare Occurrence Indicating The Unknown Issue's Seriousness

My sense is that it's likely a combination of factors that lend further credence to one or more primary concerns.



May reason rule!

[jgo]

16. Perhaps three possibilities?

1. Avoid delay.
2. Somehow related to the retiring judge's timeline.
3. National security issue. But, have seen some commentators dismiss this idea.

Or combination?

[MayReasonRule]

18. Time Will Tell... My Hypothesis Is A Combination of Extraordinary Factors. In The Meantime...

And in the end, we shall achieve in time
The thing they call divine
When all the stars will smile for me
When all is well and well is all for all
And forever after
Well, maybe in the meantime wait and see..

May reason rule!

[Novara]

15. Crazy timeline:

Here's a crazy timetable. All-nighters are not just for college finals week.

Remember that Beryl Howell ruled that Evan Corcoran (Trump’s lawyer) must testify because the crime-fraud exception applies.

In addition to being ordered to testify, Corcoran has to turn over related documents including handwritten notes, invoices, and transcriptions of personal audio recordings.

Yup, there are tapes.


This is from: https://law-and-politics.online/@Teri_Kanefield/110067288278197328

[MayReasonRule]

19. Thanks For The Link - I've Been Considering A Mastodon Account...

I picked this up on the same page:

"Trump missed it (the deadline) though, and the DC Circuit makes you file a motion if you're literally one minute late. So you'll see a "changed from filed to lodged" very soon here, and then a motion to extend."

I'm without knowledge of what impact that may ultimately have on the proceedings, if any.

[republianmushroom]

22. Huh, overnight.

26 months and counting

[MayReasonRule]

23. "Huh, overnight." "26 months and counting" Horribly True and Insightfully Droll!!

That humor style is so very reminiscent of "Schitts Creek"!

Eugene Levy is that you?????!!!

Well said y'all!

There have been a nauseating number of horrible "firsts" that have "poked the bear" in our system of governance continuously since the GOP adopted the KKK. That's more than a year or two.

Trump's Administration squeezed more shit out of their ass than any administration in my lifetime.
I'm 60.

Economics 101 taught me four basic principles that I cling to too this day.

1.)Vote With Your Dollars
2.)Vote With Your Feet
3.)It Takes Longer For An Occurrence to Manifest Than One Anticipates.
4.)Once Manifested It Takes Less Time Than One Anticipates To Be In Full Bloom

I see our system of governance's "bears" "beginning to bloom".

Re-reading this, I'm reminded of Chauncey Gardner and Nirvana simultaneously, lol.

So take my thoughts with that proverbial grain of salt...

Laissez bon temps rouler y'all, don't let the months get ya' down!

[Cha]

24. Appeals court rules against Trump attorney, ordering him to comply with subpoena

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3049750