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MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:31 PM Mar 2023

The Supreme Court has been paying Michael Chertoff's firm for 5 years

Source: Politico

The arrangement went undisclosed until this year because there was no requirement for the high court to reveal it.

Chertoff’s acknowledgement of the work came in response to an inquiry from lawmakers who wanted more details on the role he and his firm played investigating the unprecedented leak of a draft of the pivotal Dobbs abortion ruling to POLITICO last year.

While federal courts enforce the Freedom of Information Act, they are not subject to it.

“Just weeks ago, the Court requested an additional $10 million for security funding in the next fiscal year. That may be necessary, given increased threats, but taxpayers also deserve to know where that money is being spent, and that no such accounting has been released is typical SCOTUS opacity,”



Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/21/supreme-court-michael-chertoff-00088119



So Chertoff providing evidence and information then incorporated into SCOTUS rulings is a very real thing.

Chertoff was the co-author of the Patriot Act, and formerly worked on the Whitewater committee investigating the Clintons, as well as a judge on the 3rd Circuit until 2005 when appointed Secretary of Homeland Security.

TLDR: SCOTUS needs some sunshine and an enema.

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The Supreme Court has been paying Michael Chertoff's firm for 5 years (Original Post) MayReasonRule Mar 2023 OP
JHC montanacowboy Mar 2023 #1
Don't Let It Get You Down There Cowboy!! Reason Never Desists Reason Always Resists MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #9
+1 Emile Mar 2023 #17
Right on!! MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #20
Wonder who paid Kavanaugh debts. republianmushroom Mar 2023 #2
+1 Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #4
The Federalist Society. True Blue American Mar 2023 #15
Lest we forget, Chertoff's connection with the Rapiscan machines at airports... alwaysinasnit Mar 2023 #3
Wrote A Song Back In 2009 When Deployment Of Backscatter Radiation Devices Was Being Ramped Up... MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #19
I have little or no creative talent but I can certainly appreciate people who do. alwaysinasnit Mar 2023 #26
Right On, I Don't Consider Myself "Talented" In That Regard, Nonetheless, I Write And Sing! MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #35
Thanks for sharing! I will definitely do my best to let the good times roll. alwaysinasnit Mar 2023 #37
That's only for Chertoff's firm. sakabatou Mar 2023 #5
Likely, as their yearly budget is around 90 million USD as of 2021-2022 NullTuples Mar 2023 #6
Maybe a bunch to the federalist society? LiberalArkie Mar 2023 #11
Correct. We Have One Known Known. How Many Known Unknowns? How Many Unknown Unknowns? MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #12
Dirty, filthy SCOTUS needs to be cleaned and disinfected.R justices made it a cesspool of corruption Pepsidog Mar 2023 #7
I smell lots of Rats! flying_wahini Mar 2023 #8
Does the firm contribute to political parties or PACs? Freethinker65 Mar 2023 #10
Pro bono accolades elleng Mar 2023 #23
So what? C&B is not the firm at issue here. Chertoff Group is firm at issue Justice Mar 2023 #30
When there are no ethics rules... dlk Mar 2023 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Writethinker Mar 2023 #14
Not to distract from the real and serious issue here, markodochartaigh Mar 2023 #16
Not At All Y'all... That's On Point... Check My Posts And You'll Know I Feel Ya'! MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #18
Please keep in mind that Covington & Burling is one of the largest and most admired firms in DC. elleng Mar 2023 #21
Covington & Burling is not Chertoff's firm. Why mention C&B?? Justice Mar 2023 #25
Since leaving government service, Chertoff has worked as senior of counsel at the Washington, D.C. elleng Mar 2023 #28
So what? Read the original article in OP -- C&B is not the "Chertoff firm" in headline. Justice Mar 2023 #29
On Point!! Nice Catch! MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #34
Chertoff Doesn't Have To Own The Firm To "Own" SCOTUS - Nat-C Fascist Depravity Is His Entire Game MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #33
This is one of the most prestigious firms in DC Zeitghost Mar 2023 #22
Thanks. elleng Mar 2023 #24
Chertoff's work with SCOTUS done through Chertoff Group, not C&B Justice Mar 2023 #27
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #31
One more reason dems need the House control back: they can nix any money for Supreme Corruption BComplex Mar 2023 #32
Dirty business down in Cold Creek... Martin68 Mar 2023 #36

montanacowboy

(6,084 posts)
1. JHC
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:38 PM
Mar 2023

this filthy crooked supreme court (Dems excluded) are going to finish destroying this country. They want $10 mil additional? what for? so boof boy can go out and have dinner and beers? so they can channel $$ into their right wing buddies? I have had about all I can stand anymore.

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
9. Don't Let It Get You Down There Cowboy!! Reason Never Desists Reason Always Resists
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 03:55 PM
Mar 2023

Because without Reason, our Freedoms cease to exist.

Which is why I won't back down!



It's always been a fight between the malevolently delusional and those of us with reason.
Machiavelli and Darwin will always apply.
But... don't let it get you down!



I'm in Caddo Parish, the last military strong-hold of the confederate traitors.
"It's not ideal here either" would be a classic English understatement...

I pick my battles carefully, 'cause once I put a quarter in that jukebox, I never know when that emotional gorilla dancing in my head is gonna' quit.

All of my family and that of my life-long honey's are all infected with the Nationalist Christian virus. That is beyond my control. Delusion is a horrible state to exist within. I know this from my own escape that took thirty years.
Me and mine are the only ones that escaped the "biblical" blood cults.
I remember thinking back in my early twenties that the Nazis had kind of gotten it right, the evolvement of Genocidal Judaism into National Christianity was indeed "God's Will". They had just missed the part where they were not the one's that were to be YAHWEH's instruments of destruction. Oh no!
That was the job of the "Word of God Made Flesh", the "Savior" himself when he comes back to unleash his fiery wrath upon the majority of his creation that he's damned to burn in eternal hell.

So I know that if I become caught up in the delusional fascist maelstrom's depraved acts that lie outside of my circle of influence, I neglect what it is that I'm able to influence while simultaneously allowing other's dysfunction and pain to live rent free in my head.

Today my "savior" is doubt and my "god" is reason.

My methodology for not letting it get me down is eliminating the negative by focusing on what I'm able to change that positively impacts myself, neighbors and friends, I work within arms reach of my ass for all that I find valuable, that I'm able to be a part of in a mutually beneficial way, both for myself and those around me.

All politics are local.
That means it starts with me.
I just do what I'm able and stay focused on the task at hand.
It allows me to live in the moment and live a happier more productive life.

Back to installing a dash cam in our "assistance vehicle'. Had an idiot run into our Benz, if it bent the frame it'll likely total it out. Turns out that in my experience they're the easiest to work on of any vehicle I've ever touched. Find out if we're shopping or waiting for repairs, in the mean-time I won't drive without a dash-cam.

Idiots rule doesn't begin to describe the drivers here... Tijuana has better drivers...

Oh well, so be it...

Laissez bon temps rouler, ya' might as well!















alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)
3. Lest we forget, Chertoff's connection with the Rapiscan machines at airports...
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 03:12 PM
Mar 2023
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fear_n_787711

snip...

Chertoff's clients have prospered in the last two years, largely through lucrative government contracts, and The Chertoff Group's assistance in navigating the complex federal procurement bureaucracy is in high demand. One example involves the company at the heart of the recent uproar over intrusive airport security procedures -- Rapiscan, which makes the so-called body scanners. Back in 2005, Chertoff was promoting the technology and Homeland Security placed the government's first order, buying five Rapiscan scanners.

After the arrest of the underwear bomber last Christmas, Chertoff hit the airwaves and wrote an op-ed in The Washington Post advocating the full-body scanning systems without disclosing that Rapiscan Systems was a client of his firm. The aborted terror plot prompted the Transportation Security Agency to order 300 machines from Rapiscan. Yet last spring, the Government Accountability Office reported that, "It remains unclear whether [the scanners] would have been able to detect the weapon" used in the aborted bombing attempt. And according to a recent report by DHS's Inspector General, the training of airport screeners is rushed and poorly supervised.

In the past year and a half, $118 million in stimulus funds have been used to buy technology from Rapiscan, but all that money hasn't produced many jobs -- the ostensible purpose of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. In fact, it accounts for only 84 positions, according to a HuffPost analysis of government data, meaning roughly $1.4 million was spent to create each job.

Rapiscan has upped its lobbying expenditures in recent years, spending $271,500 so far this year compared to $80,000 five years ago, USA Today reports. As a measure of the firm's influence, one of the honored guests accompanying President Obama on his recent trip to India was Deepak Chopra, the president and CEO of OSI Systems, which owns Rapiscan. India plans to install the scanners at its airports in the wake of the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

snip...

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
19. Wrote A Song Back In 2009 When Deployment Of Backscatter Radiation Devices Was Being Ramped Up...
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 05:46 PM
Mar 2023
"Promised Land"

Everything's a Hang Up, You're Too Beautiful To Show
So They'll Scintillate The Fabric, Photograph You Through Your Clothes
Rings Of Truth Self Integrating, Help Protect You From Your Mind
Smoke Out Secret Slinking Slime Bags... Slurping's Rude! You Will Be Fined!

All The Fail Safe Explanations For What Has And Will Transpire,
Subtle Sinuous Suggestions Writhing Slowly Out Of Mire...

The Wisest Folks I've Ever Known That Loved Me
They Picked Their Fights; They Only Fought To Kill,
Their Own Narcissistic Grandeur Choking Out Their Own Free Will.

I Ain't No Moses Looking For The Promised Land.
My Promised Land Is How I Love And Who I Am.

If My Body's Just A Vessel And My Minds Some Lump Of Clay
Singing Any Song For Sixpence Just As Long As I Get Paid...
Then I'll Contribute My Illusions Heightening Overall Confusion,
Patching Cracks And Covering Tells With Their Rhymes Of Law To Sell:

"Now The Fourier Transforming Wavelength Guided Will...
Self Assemble In The Bedroom - We'll Authenticate, You Fill,
All Your Needs As We Direct You. Flip The 'Telly Learn The Way"


No Reality Inflicted On Your Psycho Active Gaze...

I Ain't No Moses Looking For The Promised Land
My Promised Land Is How I Love And Who I Am

Baby You're My Favorite Hang Up, And I'd Love To Lend A Hand
Flip The Telly', Grab The Shovel. Let's Dig Our Promised Land
Baby You're My Favorite Hang Up, And I'd Love To Lend A Hand
Let Me Flip The Telly', Let's Dig Our Promised Land


Lol, I've never performed this one in public, I had a great time writing it though!

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
35. Right On, I Don't Consider Myself "Talented" In That Regard, Nonetheless, I Write And Sing!
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 09:57 AM
Mar 2023

I sing my songs because I enjoy them, and I enjoy it when others enjoy them as well.

When I perform, I perform as myself, and feedback from the audience becomes a conversation from which, I take what I need and leave the rest.

But as far as "talented", meh it doesn't really matter to me. The songs and poems are examinations of my own psyche that with each rendition continue to reveal more of myself to me.

So the value for me is not that I perceive "talent" within myself, the value for me is that I expand my understanding of my "self" each time my lyrics or poetry comes to mind.

Anybody can do it. You can do it too!

Enjoy your day and laissez bon temps rouler y'all... ya' might as well!

sakabatou

(42,152 posts)
5. That's only for Chertoff's firm.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 03:33 PM
Mar 2023

Are there any other firms which we don't know about that the Court has been paying?

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
12. Correct. We Have One Known Known. How Many Known Unknowns? How Many Unknown Unknowns?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 04:14 PM
Mar 2023

You're dead on point.

Chertoff is merely the tip of a firmly entrenched turd.

SCOTUS needs some sunshine and an enema...

elleng

(130,865 posts)
23. Pro bono accolades
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:30 PM
Mar 2023

First in Pro Bono Hours per Lawyer, 2019 and 2020—The American Lawyer[11]
Law360, Pro Bono Firm of the Year, ranked No. 1 (2015).[12]

Representation of Guantanamo Bay inmates

The firm's pro bono program encompasses a range of areas, including freedom of expression and religion; civil rights and civil liberties; gay rights; family law; education; landlord/tenant; homelessness; employment; criminal and court-appointed cases; police misconduct; environmental law; fairness in government procurements and grants; intellectual property; non-profit incorporation and tax. They supported the District of Columbia in District of Columbia v. Heller which argues that the District's ban on the possession of handguns and its storage provisions for other firearms in the home is not implicated by the Second Amendment[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covington_%26_Burling

Response to MayReasonRule (Original post)

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
16. Not to distract from the real and serious issue here,
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 05:18 PM
Mar 2023

But, growing up in red, dead Texas a half century ago I was very familiar with preachers using coincidences as proof of divine truth. I find it so ironic that the surname Chertoff comes from the Russian word for devil.

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
18. Not At All Y'all... That's On Point... Check My Posts And You'll Know I Feel Ya'!
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 05:31 PM
Mar 2023

Your comments are well reasoned, and right on, lol, divine proof my ass!

But on to the juicy "today I learned": Chertoff comes from the Russian word for devil.
That's fuckin' poetic!

The process of doubtful examination provides reasoned truth.
That's the basis of "my" good news.

May reason rule!

elleng

(130,865 posts)
21. Please keep in mind that Covington & Burling is one of the largest and most admired firms in DC.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:16 PM
Mar 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covington_%26_Burling

Chertoff doesn't own the firm; no one does.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
25. Covington & Burling is not Chertoff's firm. Why mention C&B??
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:33 PM
Mar 2023

Chertoff's firm is Chertoff Group. The article states that fact. https://www.chertoffgroup.com/our-team


Bet Michael Chertoff owns most if not all of Chertoff Group.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
28. Since leaving government service, Chertoff has worked as senior of counsel at the Washington, D.C.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:37 PM
Mar 2023

law firm of Covington & Burling. He also co-founded the Chertoff Group, a risk-management and security consulting company. He is also the Chair and a member of the board of trustees in the international freedom watchdog Freedom House. Chertoff also sits on the bipartisan advisory board of States United Democracy Center.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff

Justice

(7,185 posts)
29. So what? Read the original article in OP -- C&B is not the "Chertoff firm" in headline.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:41 PM
Mar 2023

The payments didn't go to C&B. They went to Michael Chertoff's firm - Chertoff Group

There might be a conflict between C&B and work Chertoff is doing for SCOTUS as C&B lawyers appear before SCOTUS but its not correct to say payments from SCOTUS went to C&B.

The payments went to Chertoff Group. The article states as much.

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
33. Chertoff Doesn't Have To Own The Firm To "Own" SCOTUS - Nat-C Fascist Depravity Is His Entire Game
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 09:46 AM
Mar 2023

SCOTUS is "owned" by Y'all Qaeda Nat-C GOP Fascists.

Chertoff is a Nat-C through and through.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
22. This is one of the most prestigious firms in DC
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:25 PM
Mar 2023

Chertoff is one of dozens of lawyers on staff.

The headline could just as easily been "The Supreme Court has been paying Eric Holder's firm for 5 years", as the former Obama AG works there as well.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
27. Chertoff's work with SCOTUS done through Chertoff Group, not C&B
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 06:36 PM
Mar 2023

Chertoff is "SENIOR OF COUNSEL" with C&B, which largely is a ceremonial position.

BComplex

(8,049 posts)
32. One more reason dems need the House control back: they can nix any money for Supreme Corruption
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 09:40 AM
Mar 2023

of the US (SCOTUS).

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