China threatens consequences over US warship's actions
Source: AP via Yahoo News
China threatened serious consequences Friday after the United States Navy sailed a destroyer around the disputed Paracel Islands in the South China Sea for the second day in a row, in a move Beijing claimed was a violation of its sovereignty and security.
The warning comes amid growing tensions between China and the United States in the region, as Washington pushes back at Beijing's growingly assertive posture in the South China Sea, a strategic waterway it claims virtually in its entirety.
On Thursday, after the U.S. sailed the USS Milius guided-missile destroyer near the Paracel Islands, China said its navy and air force had forced the American vessel away, a claim the U.S. military denied.
The U.S. on Friday sailed the ship again in the vicinity of the islands, which are occupied by China but also claimed by Taiwan and Vietnam, as part of what it called a freedom of navigation operation" challenging requirements from all three nations requiring either advance notification or permission before a military vessel sails by.
Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/china-threatens-consequences-over-us-063847358.html
ImNotGod
(134 posts)Magoo48
(4,659 posts)Oh what fun it is to bray,
Wasting tax dollars all the way.
EX500rider
(10,531 posts)Magoo48
(4,659 posts)And, Navy activity pollutes the hell out the ocean.
EX500rider
(10,531 posts)So we also rely on freedom of navigation. Everyone else is to afraid of China to enforce free travel through international waters so it is up to the USN.
If you agree we need a Navy then you should realize they need to spend time at sea to be proficient.
It does not cost any more to sail there then anywhere else.
Martin68
(22,671 posts)troll under the bridge, threatening people who want to cross the bridge. The US is performing a service that benefits the US and every other country in the region without violence or the threat of violence. China is the one threatening violence.
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Zeitghost
(3,796 posts)Somewhere, no matter what its mission. It doesn't cost an additional dime for it to keep international waters free for navigation. Keeping the worlds shipping routs free, open and safe is probably the most productive use of our Navy.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)to one of the busiest trading sea routes?
Magoo48
(4,659 posts)Im referring to whats going on right now.
The three most powerful nations in the world right now are behaving like schoolyard bullies while the worlds MIC rakes in the bucks.
What good does it do for these forces to continually sail around trailing human waste, garbage, toxic chemicals, and fumes?
Martin68
(22,671 posts)hypothetical until it happens, and then it's too late. The cost would be far greater if China were allowed to interfere with shipping lanes using militarized artificial islands they're built in other countries' waters..
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)because that's clearly where they're headed.
Magoo48
(4,659 posts)Is that clearly like the US would stamp out Afghanistans and narco state bring democracy to Afghanistan?
Is that clearly like the unprovoked unprovoked attack which led us into Vietnam?
The Truth About Tonkin | Naval History Magazine - February 2008 Volume 22, Number 1 https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2008/february/truth-about-tonkin
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)clearly those 3 incidents, one of which I was directly involved in, are different,
China has built islands in disputed waters which are military bases with the intent to deny or interdict the world's busiest trade routes.
I don't know about you, but I'm very glad that the Biden Admin is confronting China by conducting freedom of navigation policies to let China that know any attempt to close the S. China Sea to lawful sea traffic will be opposed.
You may have a differing opinion, that's good, that's your right, express it, as I and others are doing.
Have a great weekend.
Magoo48
(4,659 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)let me change something in my previous post, I wrote you may have a differing opinion, what I should have wrote is that you have a differing opinion, which I respect, while at the same time, disagree with.
Peace out
Dan.
MayReasonRule
(1,460 posts)EX500rider
(10,531 posts)As stated in the story you posted:
On 2 August 1964, North Vietnamese patrol torpedo boats attacked the USS Maddox (DD-731) while the destroyer was in international waters in the Gulf of Tonkin. There is no doubting that fact.
EX500rider
(10,531 posts)...of the Philippines & Malaysia
March 24, 2023: China continues asserting ownership of vast offshore areas that are legally considered part of the Philippines. Worse, the Philippines gets most of the unwanted Chinese attention in the South China Sea. Thats because the Philippines has the most to lose. In terms of land area, the 7,600 islands that comprise the Philippines amount to only 300,000 square kilometers (120,000 square miles). Compare this to China, with 9.6 million square kilometers of land. According to international law, the Philippines controls (via its EEZ or Exclusive Economic Zone) water areas covering 2.26 million square kilometers.
March 11, 2023: A Filipino Coast Guard plane flying over one of the nine Spratly Islands occupied by Filipinos, received a radio message from a nearby Chinese coast guard vessel ordering the Philippine aircraft to leave Chinese airspace. The Filipinos radioed back that they were flying over Philippine islands and the Chinese ship went radio-silent.
March 5, 2023: China is again trying to force the Philippines to abandon Pagasa Island. This is one of the Spratly Islands and for several years China has been blockading the island for a while. This time China has deployed one warship and at least forty ships belonging to the Chinese naval militia. Pagasa is the second largest of the Spratly Islands and also claimed by China, Taiwan and Vietnam. The Philippines is the only claimant with a settlement and military garrison on the island. The Chinese are using non-lethal (most of the time) force to drive everyone else out the South China Sea islands they claim. The last time China used force (against Vietnam) was in the 1970s, before China became dependent on the sea lanes that pass through the South China Sea to the Middle East, Africa and Australia.
While the South China Sea combat is non-lethal, the economic damage to other nations with legal claims to portions of the South China Sea is very real. As this shoving match escalates, other major trading nations, especially the United States, Japan and South Korea, as well as more distant industrialized nations, are lending military support. While everyone is under orders to not open fire, unless facing a lethal threat, the risk of the shoving match turning into a shooting match increases.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,558 posts)artificial islands to increase its fraudulent claims?
Magoo48
(4,659 posts)Its all militaries everywhere. Posturing, probing, jingoism, its all dangerous and destructive.
Irish_Dem
(45,626 posts)They might as well sail where it serves our national security interests.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,558 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 25, 2023, 01:58 AM - Edit history (1)
to control international waters by building manmade islands trying to run roughshod over its neighbors?
You believe any attempt to make China play by the rules that they ignore unless is benefits them is jingoism?
You need to stop listening to Jimmy Dore and believing CCP propaganda.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)orangecrush
(19,236 posts)Magoo48
(4,659 posts)I dont think any military action is needed if its not designed to protect our planets environment rather than further damage it.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,558 posts)wait, China is the largest polluting nation in the world. There, military use is now justified against them
Magoo48
(4,659 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,558 posts)to hell with the CCP destroying a neighbor's policy and to hell with the US living up to its treaty obligations and defending a fully functioning democracy like Taiwan and Philippines.
Grins
(7,134 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,113 posts)dalton99a
(81,065 posts)Liars and thieves (the Chinese government, not Chinese people).