Human Rights Watch: Iraq getting worse

[DeathToTheOil]

Baghdad, Iraq (CNN) -- The human rights situation in Iraq is worse now than it was a year ago, the campaign group Human Rights Watch argues in a new report out Sunday, warning that people are being tortured with impunity in secret prisons.

The group says it uncovered a secret prison where detainees were beaten, hung upside down and given electric shocks to sensitive parts of their bodies. Human Rights Watch based its claims on the testimony of detainees themselves.

The Justice Ministry announced in March that it would close the facility, Camp Honor, but Human Rights Watch says it has "credible information that elite forces may still hold and interrogate detainees at Camp Honor."

The group says the forces who control the facility report to the military office of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/22/world/meast/iraq-human-rights/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Dang, who coulda seen that coming?

[xchrom]

1. hmmmmph. quelle surprise. nt

[rfranklin]

2. Now, where could they have learned that "shocking" behavior?

I mean, Americans never do shit like that!

Abu whaaaat?

[cstanleytech]

7. You are right its all the fault of the US for

bringing the use of torture to other countries who never had a history of torturing people before.

[DeathToTheOil]

8. I like that

I don't agree with your point, but I always admire good irony.

[cstanleytech]

9. What? I meant every word of it.

After all we all know Iraq and every other nation except the US have had exemplary records regarding the treatment of prisoners until the US stuck its nose in.

[DeathToTheOil]

10. I love that

Have I ever mentioned that Canadians actually hate hockey? We only play and watch it because our despotic leader, Kim Jong Harper, forces us to.

[Deep13]

13. Right, but the "good guys" using it make it aceptable. nt

[cstanleytech]

18. Of course, its ok for us to torture people and what we have to show

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the other nations of the world like we showed Iraq is that their past of never using torture is the wrong way to go.

[Deep13]

19. I was looking at the present and future actually.

I don't really think we want to emulate Nazis or Reformation age fanatics.

[lunatica]

3. Camp Honor

The Bush administration sure gave cute names to their crime scenes didn't they?

This is no surprise and much of it is our fault. War is grotesque.

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. The US government is grotesque in so many ways.

Proud to be an American


Why?

[madokie]

4. Iraq was better off under saddams rule than since

bush the lessor's invasion and ten year occupation

[Mnpaul]

11. I goes back farther than that

Saddam was also our doing. Before that we had the Brits and that thug Winston Churchill, who gassed the Kurds. Iraq was better off before the west got involved.

[cstanleytech]

21. True...after all they were an enlightened society opposed to any and all use of torture or other

barbarisms before the west introduced such things to them.

[LanternWaste]

22. Prior to the Sikes-Piqot Accord...

Prior to the Sikes-Piqot Accord, systemic torture sponsored by the ruling government in the Levant was an aberration. Despite the Ottoman Turks tenuous term of governing the area, it was a back-water in which very little happened. Not enlightened as much as placid.

The West indeed, introduced them to a bureaucratic and industrialized method of "placating" their foes en mass.

[cstanleytech]

24. Exactly...they were a peaceful people who lived in a utopia before the west

led them down the path of using violence to resolve conflict.....I like you I assume lament many hours over the horrors our many times removed ancestors from thousands of years ago destroyed that utopia and tainted it.

[Snake Alchemist]

16. one exception

Not if you were a Kurd.

[JJW]

6. We shouldn't pretend that we can understand them

Look how crazy the US became with 911. Iraq has been ripped apart for much of the last century by Western oil interests. Bush, Clinton, Bush, actions there border on genocide.

With Pennsylvania's gas fields, we starting to see the same craziness. Schools closed due to no funding while gas industry pay no taxes and dump their toxic waste up stream of municipal water treatment plants, that can't measure or treat the chemicals. Mothers & faters who want safe drinking water for their children are claimed to be potential Eco-terrorists. And of course there is the revolving door of corruption fully on display by former Gov Tom Ridge. If anyone forgets who he is. He was director of Homeland Security under Bush and couldn't account for $ 60 billion dollars. That is some major lack of security there, Tom!

[patrice]

14. :-((((((((((((((((

[raouldukelives]

12. Well at least it's better than under Saddam.

Unless of course you think it isn't. Then you at least have to admit it was good for the stock market & military contractors.

[Major Nikon]

17. It wasn't even good for the stock market

[DeathToTheOil]

25. "We didn't have freedom under Saddam...

.....but I could walk the street safely at night. Now, I cannot do so at 4 in the afternoon." - Iraqi "Man in Cafe" snip, NBC News.

[patrice]

15. It feels presumptious to even consider asking "God" to forgive us this mistake.

[lonestarnot]

20. Old bushitler sure fixed us with all that warmongering. Fuckwad warmonger fuckers.

Took them billion of dollars and million perhaps millions of lives to figure that out. Yeah torture, we lead the world on the how to torture. We teach great things.

[Dreamer Tatum]

23. At least with the war, people learned to care.

Before the war, under Saddam's suddenly idyllic rule, things were about the same
but no one emitted so much as a damp fart over it.