Jewish paper's column catches Secret Service eye

[alp227]

The U.S. Secret Service is looking into a controversial column by an Atlanta Jewish newspaper publisher that mulled the assassination of an American president.

Andrew Adler, owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, wrote a January 13 column about the threat of Iran to Israel. He posed three options for the Jewish state to counter the Iranian regime.

One of them called for a "hit on a president in order to preserve Israel's existence."

"Give the go-ahead for U.S. based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States' policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies."

full: http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/21/us/jewish-president-threat/index.html

[Guy Montag]

1. Mr. Adler should become a former publisher at the very least

This lack of common sense is breathtaking in scope. I would not be surprised to see legal sanctions taken against him s well.

[gateley]

2. Idiot. I'm sure he's met with the SS by now. nt

[msanthrope]

9. Was that intentional??

(Seriously, I knew what you meant, it's just that it struck me...is it some sort of Godwin Freudian slip????)

-- I mean you no offense, and I'm sure you mean none, either.

[magical thyme]

26. in the US, SS means Secret Service

you know. the people that protect our President.

[msanthrope]

31. Yes. I am well aware of that. In the US, to most educated people, 'SS'

also has historical connotations that suggest it is not best used when describing the antics at a Jewish newspaper.

Not that I think the poster was trying to be offensive in any way--it just catches the eye.

[wial]

38. He could have said "Department of Homeland Security"

... oh, right, they had that too.

[boppers]

57. Protection Squadron, Defense Corps....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel

Interestingly, it's the first wikipedia meaning, but the second hit in google for me (The USSSA is my first google hit, Social Security).

[Purveyor]

3. As it very well should have. eom

[silverweb]

4. The meaning of "support" for Israel has changed.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Once upon a time, it meant recognizing the right of Israel to exist and protecting its people. I was cool with that.

Now, however, it means helping Israel "obliterate its enemies," even if that means assassinating an American President to enshrine a sufficiently pro-preemptive-war, pro-Israel chief executive?

I recognize that the situation is extremely complex and I tend to stay out of those discussions, but in this case...

ummm... no.

Not just no. Hell no!

[Drunken Irishman]

5. The irony is that if Israel ever did that, the United States would obliterate them into extinction.

[boppers]

8. Well, they can attack our warships and kill our sailors...

and then claim "oops"....

So, I'm not sure where the line is.

[DeathToTheOil]

45. The line is nonexistent

Israel speaks, the U.S. obeys.

[Behind the Aegis]

47. That's bullshit.

Israel no more controls the US than the UK does. It is more likely, but still stupid bullshit IMO, the US controls Israel.

[LeftishBrit]

58. Indeed. And the US increasingly controls the UK too if you ask me!

[newspeak]

49. oh and don't forget being

caught multiple times spying on us. I'm wondering if we are supposed to be an ally or the enemy.

[littlewolf]

55. yeah

Remember the USS Liberty.

[skepticscott]

10. I wouldn't be too sure

A lot of the same people in our government who would support Israel no matter what are the same ones who would be glad to see Obama with a bullet through his head.

[Drunken Irishman]

11. I think, god forbid that ever happened, Biden would do it.

Remember, he'd be president.

Gah, who would have ever thought this possible? Sometimes America makes me cringe.

[nanabugg]

6. So why hasn't this man been deported out of the country? nt

[aranthus]

14. Because he's an American citizen, and not subject to deportation. n/t

[TheDebbieDee]

17. Maybe President O should declare this man a terrorist and have him "detained indefinitely".

Honestly, I would be okay with that in this case............

[onenote]

27. But you wouldn't be okay with a real terrorist being detained indefinitely?

This guy is a totally jackass and his "journalism" career should be over and done with. But if NDAA was applied to a case like this, it would be applied to a lot of other situations where you might not think it was such a nifty idea.

[nanabugg]

59. I believe he has dual citizenship with Israel...no?

[Behind the Aegis]

60. And you believe this why?

Was there information on this?

[napoleon_in_rags]

7. I wish DU had a function to search all OPs I've visited.

There was one not too long ago to a video, in which a couple of analysts posited (or rather implied) that the cancellation of the joint US Israel exercises:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/15/us-israel-usa-exercise-idUSTRE80E0Q220120115
was caused because US blamed Israel for assassination of of Iran nuke scientist and feared possible "Iran attack" on exercises to draw both to war. It was an example of this sub-narrative that Obama admin is deeply distrustful of Israel, who must do anything to stop the Iranian nuke. Very possible this guy subscribed to that narrative.

[Bucky]

12. Creepiest part is the choice of phrase "Give the go-ahead"... Like there's already a plan in place.

Sounds like a JDL fanatic. Brrrr

[Blacksheep214]

13. Funny, isn't it?

Not even Russia, China, North Korea or Cuba wishes our president ill will.

These of course being Willards favorite countries to try to make a point with.

I want to hear Liebermann respond to this!

IMMEDIATELY!!

I have had it with these part time friends! Where's the outrage from Jerusalem?

[leftynyc]

52. This publisher is an American citizen

So your point is totally lost. Why should anyone comment on what one schmuck in Atlanta has to say? Or perhaps you like to live with your panties bunched up....your choice.

[riverwalker]

15. His most disturbing (and revealing) statement:

"don't you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel's most inner circles?"

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/01/20/3091282/atlanta-jewish-times-apologizes-for-obama-assassination-scenario

[newspeak]

50. well since a "fanatic" murdered rabin

and they've had the hawks in power since then, he probably has no problem having the likkud fanatics come here and do another hit. It always has me wondering when a good political figure is hit, instead of putting one in power like the one you lost; they put in power the ones who probably set the hit up. Just don't understand it.

[lovuian]

18. if this was a Arab paper

they would be arrested

Can't have two standards

[Blacksheep214]

19. It would be front page

above the fold.

Liebermann and McCain would be writing a war resolution!

Funny thing about that. They like to declare war on ideas and other non living things. Just like corporations being people, the Repubs are a little confused about these concepts.

War on terror? Really?

What is it when you threaten our President?

[AverageJoe90]

20. Adler, you fucking moron. You had the CHUTZPAH to publish that?

I do hope the Secret Service paid this dumbass a visit.....although, sadly, some of the mainstream far-righters might actually back him up on this. And even worse, if he ends up being turned loose, the neo-Nazis and other anti-Semites will try to twist this into a "global Jewish conspiracy" yarn and propaganda piece.....after all, some fascists are the masters of deceit.

[Behind the Aegis]

21. Don't think it will just be the "right" to take this shit and run with it!

This will play well with the anti-Israel crowd and the anti-Semites of the left, who still try to sell almost as many conspiracy theories about us as the right does. It is no different than when a woman files a flase rape report; suddenly all rapes are false or greatly suspicious. On a grander scale, a handful of Muslim extremists fly planes into buildings, blow up trains, and buses, and suddenly, all Muslims are "terrorists and Islamists."

There is a reason bigotry, prejudice, and stereotypes prevail, even in so-called educated societies, because, unless the group is miniscule, there is almost always someone in the target group who "is" the stereotype!

[onenote]

28. Reading this and other threads here on DU proves, sadly, you're right

Heck, we even have the reappearance of the Israel was behind the WTC attack meme on this thread.

[Blacksheep214]

34. I saw that

Let's stick to the facts, the USS Liberty, Pollard, et.al. These are proven. WTC =WTF

No need to make shit up! How many secrets have they stolen or been handed is unknown.

They have proven spy rings in America which are not here to help us.


This is how you treat your friends?

[UnrepentantLiberal]

37. I alerted, post was hidden.

Now on its way to the admin.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

40. Posting Privileges Revoked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=112776

[Behind the Aegis]

43. It is what it is.

This always happens. We see the nasty comments about Jews in this thread, which conflate Israelis and Jews. It is just another POS that has happened, which we will have to overcome. When we do speak out against it, it isn't good enough. So, it is a catch-22.

[newspeak]

51. it is not the jewish people

there are jewish people in isreal fighting for the rights of palestinians, fighting for decent causes. It's the hawks, that are fanatics in my book.

[leftynyc]

53. Right on this thread

there is a poster DEMANDING that Joe LIeberman comment on this story for some unspoken reason. Why Joe and not the other 99 senators is beyond me.

[RainDog]

22. I think he should be arrested, just like other terrorists

if he's advising Mossad to assassinate the president - he's telling agents of the govt of another country to engage in terrorism on U.S. soil.

It's time for the right wingers to stop this shit.

[freshwest]

24. The rightwingers have been primed to kill Obama for Israel since he was elected.

They won't stop this shist until the voices in their heads tell them to. You know, Rush, Beck, etc.

[cbrer]

23. What made you think

That the Jewish faith was the only religion with an exception to the fundamentalist whackaloon resident requirement?

We have just never heard one yell "ALLAHU AKBAR"! And push a detonator...

[Blacksheep214]

35. So very special

Especially when denying others that which you sought for so long.

Me thinkst someone was in the desert too long and lost any message of humanity living together.

Still tribal and violent on all sides. Nobody gives an inch based on ancient writings done by stoned goatherders.

God says it's mine and you can't have it! NYAAA!

Grow the fuck up, PLEASE!

[Fokker Trip]

39. We certainly have heard of one pushing a detonator.

Look up Irgun and the Stern Gang. Two terrorist Jewish organizations that were an integral part of the establishing of Israel.

Menachem Begin was the head of Irgun.

From Encycopedia Brittanica online

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/565756/Stern-Gang

"Later the Stern Gang attacked airfields, railway yards, and other strategic installations in Palestine, usually with success, though at heavy loss in members killed or captured. After the creation of the state of Israel (1948), the group, which had always been condemned by moderate leaders of the Jewish community in Palestine, was suppressed, some of its units being incorporated in the Israeli defense forces. Unlike the Irgun Zvai Leumi, a precursor of the Ḥerut (“Freedom”) Party, the Stern Gang left no political party to carry on its political programs."

Terrorism isn't some hidden facet of the Israeli state, its part of the policies of the state. The current Likud party has roots in the Irgun.

I wonder when the "that person is anti-Semitic" police on this thread will get to my post. Misusing an important phrase like that reduces its impact greatly. Soon the phrase "anti-Semitic" will be synonymous with the phrase "crying wolf&quot it's well on its way there now IMO).

This has likely been published to show Obama that Israel is not going to back down in any disagreement with the US.

Liberals and Progressives in Israel must be terrified by what is happening to their country under the far right and even farther right.

Its a tragedy, not just for Israel but for the planet.

[cbrer]

42. Before I opened

This post, I thought you were going to mention combat action, during which detonators are used regularly, and something that I omitted from my first note.

Thank you for the historical update. It certainly belongs in any debate concerning the activites of ANY religious fundamentalist movement.

[Fokker Trip]

54. Thanks Cbrer, I came back expecting to have been flamed.

It just seems that Israel has gone completely off the rails. It was a country I longed to visit growing up but I wouldn't consider going there now.

There simply is no possible good ending for anyone in the Middle East(and the world?) if this path continues to be followed.

[littlewolf]

56. actually we have heard one yell "ALLAHU AKBAR"

he didn't push a detonator ... he just shot a bunch of folks on a military base ... he is a Major I believe ... (still is cuz he hasn't been court marshaled yet.

[aquart]

25. I should hope it caught their eye.

Proposing that a foreign power should assassinate an American president???

WE'VE NEVER OUTSOURCED OUR ASSASSINATIONS!

[bayareaboy]

29. Folks...

This man is from Atlanta, Does that say enough? The South will do that to people, let alone Atlanta.

[onenote]

33. Oh boy. Another nonsensical broad brush attack on the South

Here's a clue for the clueless. There are good progressives in the South (and not just in Atlanta) and there are stupid assholes in every area of the country.

This guy's moronic column had nothing to do with his being from Atlanta or the South. The same column might well have been written by someone in other parts of the country. And it would have been equally reprehensible no matter where the author lived.

[JHB]

30. Here's the column:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html

The man's been overdosing on Tom Clancy (he even calls it a Tom Clancy-type scenario).

I'm glad reaction to this exercise in delusional myopia has been overwhelmingly bad, and frankly Atlanta's Jewish community (and advertisers to them) might want to open up a new community paper. One whose publisher hasn't publicly revealed himself to be an extremist loon that they probably don't want to be associated with.

This wasn't a one-liner, he dwelt on it for three paragraphs. There is no backpedaling from that, no matter how hard you try.

It appears we're not rid of Mayberry Machiavellis and technothriller Tough Guys.

[JoePhilly]

32. I recommend a lengthy cavity search ... might be the only way to remove his head from his ass.

[Cognitive_Resonance]

36. His advertisers need to be "educated." nt

[McCamy Taylor]

41. I can think of only one response. WTF?

[Judi Lynn]

44. US: Jewish publisher who suggested Israel kill Obama resigns

US: Jewish publisher who suggested Israel kill Obama resigns
Published: 01.24.12, 07:11 / Israel News

The owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times Andrew Adler announced his resignation following an editorial piece he wrote in which he suggests that Israel consider assassinating US President Barack Obama in order to prevent Iran from attacking Israel.

The article sparked outrage within the Jewish community in the US. Adler later published an apology in which he regretted ever writing the piece.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4179899,00.html

[chrisa]

48. And what? They think the US would just let that happen?

And not only that, but ally with them after it happened? Or maybe they're talking about pulling a "false-flag" operation, with is a war-crime.

An idiotic pipe dream from someone with the intelligence of a 15 year old.