High Court: Warrant Needed For GPS Tracking
WASHINGTON (AP) The Supreme Court says police must get a search warrant before using GPS technology to track criminal suspects.
The court ruled in the case of Washington, D.C., nightclub owner Antoine Jones. A federal appeals court in Washington overturned his drug conspiracy conviction because police did not have a warrant when they installed a GPS device on his vehicle and then tracked his movements for a month.
The GPS device helped authorities link Jones to a suburban house used to stash money and drugs. He was sentenced to life in prison before the appeals court overturned the conviction. The Supreme Court agreed with the appeals court.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=145639480
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Shaping up, on the first read-through, a truly landmark case.
Guy Montag
(126 posts)But you can bet your bottom dollar this will be viciously attacked by fascists from the people that brought us the Homeland Security act and TSA gropers.
They will work hard to undermine this ruling.
mopinko
(70,070 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)I just *knew* that Thomas would throw out the 4th amendment but alas, I was wrong....
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,815 posts)were going to rule on this case, so I'm very happy to see this. Finally, a decent ruling from this SCOTUS. Wonder how much they had to bribe prosecutors-and-police-uber-alles Thomas to go along with it?
former9thward
(31,965 posts)He is basically a libertarian rather than a conservative.
liberalhistorian
(20,815 posts)Thomas's (incoherent) opinions, and he never met a prosecutor or policeman he didn't like, no matter how wrong and/or corrupt. And you could argue that libertarianism and conservatism really aren't that far apart in many areas.
former9thward
(31,965 posts)Scalia has always upheld the rights of defendants when they assert those rights. If the defendant does not assert them Scalia and Thomas generally back the police.
Orrex
(63,195 posts)I absolutely figured that at least two of our esteemed Supremes would come down in favor of this kind of surveillance.
Bravo to the SCOTUS for getting one totally correct!
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)As it should be.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)Justice Samuel Alito also wrote a concurring opinion in which he said the court should have gone further and dealt with GPS tracking of wireless devices, like mobile phones. He was joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=145639480
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)That is encouraging.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)"The use of longer term GPS monitoring in investigations of most offenses impinges on expectations of privacy," Alito wrote in an opinion joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan. Sotomayor in her concurring opinion specifically said she agreed with Alito on this conclusion.
Very encouraging, indeed.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)"...in investigations of most offenses impinges on expectations of privacy"
Step through that phrase.
If you are being investigated for some offenses you do not have the same reasonable expectation of privacy.
What the Fuck? How can the offense you are being investigated for possibly affect your innate civil rights one way or another?
One can argue that a person charged with mass murder faces a lower definition of the constututional guranatee of reasonable bail.
But how could someone argue that being investigated for mass murder means that a cop can stick a GPS device on your car, though being investigated for something more minor he would need a warrant?
suffragette
(12,232 posts)than Scalia.
Good point from you about the Alito quote. Found an interesting analysis from emptywheel that calls it "squishy." Seems a good description. She also goes on in her article and in responses to discuss more about how Sotomayor goes further in addressing different technological methods that don't require physical placement.
http://www.emptywheel.net/2012/01/23/scotus-unanimously-declares-some-gps-tracking-a-search/
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Of course you have to get a warrant from a judge. Come and get them.
SteveG
(3,109 posts)President Newt would just ignore.
FraDon
(518 posts)I don't remember which Supreme asked, but the question was something like, "Does this mean you think you can place these devices on the car of a Supreme Court Justice, without a warrant?"
At the time my thought was "like bloody hell, fascist mofo's > 9-0 !".
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
msongs
(67,386 posts)rocktivity
(44,573 posts)NO DOMESTIC SURVEILLING OR SPYING WITHOUT A WARRANT! CUE THE VONAGE THEME!!!
rocktivity
groundloop
(11,518 posts)I can just hear Newt in the next debate - Obama's Supreme Court gave a gift to criminals all over the country .....
Edit to add a thought : It was pretty damned stupid of whoever was running this particular investigation to not get a warrant. The few hours or even a day or two it would have taken to obtain a warrant was nothing when compared to the time that was wasted gathering all that evidence that now can't be used.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)I think Hell just froze over.
Ter
(4,281 posts)The problem is with the regular right (Bush types).
AllyCat
(16,174 posts)This SCOTUS seems intent on barbequing individual rights. Glad to see it though.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)If you know what I mean.
PB
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)If any cop with a bug up his arse could slap one on your car and wait for you to fall into his lap then it's no great stretch for a spouse or parent to do the same with impunity. A paparazo? Stalker?
And as someone else pointed out, it puts supreme court justices on the same level as any common drug mule. Also politicians, CEOs, CFOs, etc.
DemocratAholic
(159 posts)I didn't see in any news reports what the Obama position was on this issue, so I did a search and did find a few articles which said that the Justice Department's position was that it was Constitutional and legal for the government to attach GPS devices to unsuspecting people's vehicles.
Oh well.
Can't exactly say I'm surprised as they seem to take the position of the police in every case. I would only say that this is a good example why it is so difficult to get liberals and progressives to coalesce behind Obama. Even in a situation like this, where the privacy invasion is offensive to the entire spectrum of the court, the Obama Justice Department sides with the police in favor of attaching GPS devices to cars without warrants. It is so disturbing and makes it so difficult for me to vote for someone who would support that position before the Court.
Wired.com - Supreme Court Court Rejects Willy-nilly GPS Tracking
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/01/scotus-gps-ruling/
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)What is with SCOTUS on this. They don't want a GPS device put on thomas or scalia's cars I guess.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)It is very good news that the court slapped it down unanimously.
Keep fighting against the surveillance state. Occupy.