Barack Obama signs sweeping US defense spending bill
Source: Agence France Presse
Barack Obama signs sweeping US defense spending bill
Agence France Presse | Updated: January 03, 2013 12:22 IST
New York: President Barack Obama has signed into law a $633 billion US defense spending bill that funds the war in Afghanistan and boosts security at US missions worldwide.
"I have approved this annual defense authorization legislation, as I have in previous years, because it authorizes essential support for service members and their families, renews vital national security programs, and helps ensure that the United States will continue to have the strongest military in the world," Obama said in a statement early Thursday after signing the measure.
Obama said that he signed the measure despite reservations.
"In a time when all public servants recognize the need to eliminate wasteful or duplicative spending, various sections in the Act limit the Defense Department's ability to direct scarce resources towards the highest priorities for our national security," the president said.
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newfie11
(8,159 posts)Webster Green
(13,905 posts)Not defense.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)base (or our former industrial base).
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Besides, there really wasn't anything else to spend that money on that would enhance our lives the way the military does. Who really needs health, education, and a vibrant economy when we can have the greatest military in the world. I'd feel even more fortunate but they took half of that away.
Flatpicker
(894 posts)While I don't agree with military expansion, I'd be at a loss to see how we could defund those items during a down economy.
A lot of people would be out of work from a production side and we don't have the other jobs readily available for them to transition into.
An aircraft aluminum welder or a sonar systems programming specialist would not be able to just pick up a new infrastructure support role without massive retraining. Just as an example.
So, how do we get from here to there without gutting our economy?
bowens43
(16,064 posts)sorry but 'we might lose jobs' is not a valid reason for continuing this ridiculous amount of spending on killing machines.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Instead of contracting to build more planes and bombs, contract R&D for innovation/rebuilding of infrastructure, LEED buildings/materials, farm equipment/technology ... tons of things they can do if they take their scientific/technical knowledge and just reapply it.
And that could likely be done at a fraction of the cost of continual war and military hardware development.
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts).... by signing the cliff document and raising taxes on the rich night before last. That big old elephant in the room eats more and more it seems like. It's all great and dandy to have "the strongest military in the world" and provide jobs for all the MIC related industries, but we can't afford it anymore. What about the rest of us? What about the homeless soldiers when they come home? I just don't think the ends justifies the means anymore. At what cost do we have "the strongest military in the world?" Heck, we are our own worst enemies right here stateside with all these damn assault weapons. Go figure. Thanks Judi Lynn for bringing this news from Agence France Presse.
rucky
(35,211 posts)that's all that matters.
unhappycamper
(60,364 posts)TIA
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)college football. Too many bowl games and almost everyone gets to go to one.
Ok, I exaggerate, but not by much.
valerief
(53,235 posts)maddogesq
(1,245 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)this the story of Obama's presidency......
Well , I don't necessarily agree with it but I'll sign it anyway....
right...
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... didn't he authorize even more than Congress requested?
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Congress's bill was for more than Obama requested, including spending on items the Pentagon didn't want. You can find Panetta's letter to Congress with their objections.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Owl
(3,629 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Actually, I have been in deep mourning for a few years now, I realize.
I miss the energy and optimism had had during the anti-war period, during that massive wave of change.
Yet..the irony of our last gasps of imperialism does not escape me, as we gobble resources in a bid to take over the globe so we can grab more resources which we will gobble up in an effort to hang onto the resources we just grabbed.
rinse
Repeat
and ignore the dying planet.
sigh.
jzodda
(2,124 posts)How about spending money on job training for those troops to prepare them for the real world and gut the defense budget-You Republicans want spending cuts? Well here is where they should be coming from. Not from Medicare or Social Security.
$633 billion is an amazing number. So while Europe and our allies continue to cut defense so they can move spending to other areas, we are the only idiots who continue to defense(spend) our way to oblivion.
We could probably live with a defense budget 1/5 of that number yearly. That, plus the tax increases for the wealthy, could go a long long way towards moving us out of deficits.
And our President doesn't have the necessary courage to tackle this issue. Depressing.
lancer78
(1,495 posts)the defense "wet nurse" for europe. Why do you think they feel they can reduce their defense spending? Wet nurse Amerika will provide them with all the defense they will ever need.
AllyCat
(16,034 posts)Jeez...
plethoro
(594 posts)ddddd
RC
(25,592 posts)"I have approved this annual defense authorization legislation, as I have in previous years, because it authorizes essential support for service members and their families, renews vital national security programs, and helps ensure that the United States will continue to have the strongest military in the world," Obama said in a statement early Thursday after signing the measure.
Having the biggest Defense Budget in the world does not equate to having the strongest military in the world. How many times have we lost against 3rd world countries, in our imperial aggression? Why are we still in Afghanistan?
Factions within countries are driving us to stalemates in Afghanistan and Iraq. When a few combatants with AK-47 and IEDs are forcing us to spend millions on defense, we have lost. But face it, those "terrorists" are really just a raison-du-jour to siphon money into the pockets of the war pigs.
RC
(25,592 posts)Gotta keep those almighty profits commin'.
MKITEM
(53 posts)History has shown many instances where that is the case.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)I have no words. Just
olddad56
(5,732 posts)Got to subsidize those corporations of mass destruction.
MKITEM
(53 posts)The "We have to be the bestest" mentality.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Just think of what we could do with that money. Something that isn't counterproductive. Like battery research.
Kaleva
(36,146 posts)humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)How absolutely Progressive of the President, tell me again what move on that 3 dimensional chess board is this one? This just proves what I have been saying for awhile now it is not the rhetoric it is the action.... On the Cliff he got half of what he wanted so that means that the Republicans got half of what they wanted there is no lunch eating, beat down that some here would like to create the illusion of.... this is just a sample of more of the same... I would ask my moderate to slightly right friends on this forum why the President hasn't even voiced support for any truly progressive revenue streams i.e....
- VAT
- Wealth/luxury TAX
- Wall street transaction tax
- Bank transaction tax
- Firearms ownership yearly tax
- Raising the cap on SS
- means testing for SS and Medicare
- Support for lowering the age of access to SS and Medicare
Nope he would rather bring up ideas like chained CPI. and sign laws that are at the very least moderate right leaning i.e., the ACA and it's boon to insurance industries... Now how progressive is that?
Of course he may have chosen not to even worry about the debt or deficit but that could hurt his legacy, I mean you don't want to go through 8 years with more than a trillion dollar deficit for each of those years and at the end some how claim that your policies worked for the economy.... or that those last 8 years and the future deficits are some how not your fault....
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)It's stuff like this that make people talk about no differences between the two big parties.
That and stuff like the Democratically-controlled Senate adding all that corporate pork to the tax bill.
I could go on.
Same old same old.
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)because if you don't speak out than the beltway left wins the argument and we will be told like 4 year olds to "shut up and color"
Nihil
(13,508 posts)> Another glorious victory for the Single Unified Capitalist War Party.
> It's stuff like this that make people talk about no differences between the two big parties.
> That and stuff like the Democratically-controlled Senate adding all that corporate pork to the tax bill.
More hope & change ... is definitely needed ...
cstanleytech
(26,080 posts)major cuts to defense spending nor do I recall offhand anyone in office doing so.
And no I do not agree with the amount our country spends on defense at all.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)triplepoint
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ronnie624
(5,764 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)$633 Billion.. no questions asked....?
Obama is going to have to cut a lot of school lunches for kids and slash heating allowances for Seniors to pay for this.
But never fear.. Obama will stick it to those who are able to protest the least....
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)AGAIN. He signed the first two new year's eves ago. Where is my democracy!
Don't know what I'm discussing? Search: NDAA Section 1021 or simply Indefinite Detention NDAA.