Hillary Clinton Says She’s Ready to Step Off ‘the High Wire of American Politics’
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Its not the first time shes said shes leaving government service after her current job, but Secretary of State Hillary Clinton definitively said today she wants out of politics.
During a town hall meeting with State Department employees this morning Clinton said she is ready to step off the high wire of American politics. She said shes paying no attention to the battle for the Republican presidential nomination and hasnt watched any of the debates.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/hillary-clinton-says-shes-ready-to-step-off-the-high-wire-of-american-politics
She did a great job. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I would have been happy with either her or President Obama in the White House in 2008.
(Edited for a better link. We've known that she will step down for some time. But not quite yet.)
Taverner
(55,476 posts)She's not going to run in 2012, and she might be too old in 2016....
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Repayment of her years of making the delusional argument that war can be feminist or progressive.
Thank you, HRC-your class will now reward you.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Hope we still see you around.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...this country way beyond what anyone should be asked to do, as an attorney, as Arkansas' first lady, as our country's first lady, as a Senator, as a candidate for President and as Secretary of State. (It makes me exhausted just thinking about it.)
I am glad she is putting herself on her own 'to do' list. I hope she enjoys her time away. In the future, should she choose to seek office again, I'll support her 100%.
Thank you, Hillary!
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)No woman in Iraq benefited in the slightest from all that death. Neither has any woman in Afghanistan. War is only good for male dominance. It can't have progressive or feminist results anywhere anymore.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...supported that war. "A dumb war" to quote our President. And I disagree with HIM on education.
I still wish Hillary well...she works hard for what she believes and for this country. She's not perfect. Neither is Obama. Neither am I.
Peace...
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Classy lady and a pillar in the democratic party.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)That's life.........
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Still, it does go without saying that a HRC presidency would have been to the right of Obama's-which would automatically have made it a political failure and made the losses in 2010 even greater.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)donheld
(21,311 posts)Maybe writing, speaking, punditry etc. I hope so.
Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)To Hillary,
wwytchwood
(31 posts)you go girl!
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)lamp_shade
(14,828 posts)TheWraith
(24,331 posts)This seems to mostly be her tamping down wishful thinking on the part of people who thought she didn't really mean it before.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)Then nominate her for the Supreme Court next opening. Especially if the next opening is Scalia or Thomas' seat.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Dulcinea
(6,629 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)The honorable Hillary Rodham-Clinton as our next justice!
I believe Kennedy might retire, together with Ginsberg and maybe Bryer, but Thomas and Scalia will stay on their seats until they're taken away by paramedics.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The 'majority' of current Justices were well under the age of 60 when appointed.
Current Justices here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Supreme_Court#Current_justices
The fifth column shows their age at appointment.
Early 50s appears to be the median age.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)You're right. Unfortunately, she's not young enough.
But, imo, she would've made a durn good SCOTUS Justice.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Those hyperpartisan Dons will leave when there are ambulances at 1 First Street, NE.
glinda
(14,807 posts)denbot
(9,899 posts)OMG, the brain splatter all over freeper monitors, and keyboard if that was ever announced.
Not likely, but one could dream.
valerief
(53,235 posts)MaineDem
(18,161 posts)I wish her luck and happiness with whatever life has in store for her. She deserves some down time.
primavera
(5,191 posts)It's hard to imagine a career as depressing as politics is these days.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)you will still be a force to be reckoned with in the future.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Best wishes!
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Job well done, Hillary!
MADem
(135,425 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)politicasista
(14,128 posts)It was written all over her face. Hopefully she can now take some time to BGTH (Be Good To Herself).
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)You would think this would be big-time breaking news everywhere, if she had in fact decided to call it quits.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)WaPo: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-rodham-clinton-ignoring-gop-debates-wants-off-political-high-wire/2012/01/26/gIQAnuQATQ_story.html
ABC: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/hillary-clinton-says-shes-ready-to-step-off-the-high-wire-of-american-politics/
AP: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i122DBHRT2-oLEVw6aTKKwwyneaQ?docId=8c81f5a09f674faa8608c180b4861c67
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)election. She'll wait until after the election, to give Obama time to choose a new SECSTATE, get that person through the nomination process, and do a turnover with that person. It's not a surprise, though.
For a time, there was speculation that she and Joe Biden would "switch jobs" after the election. I haven't heard that one lately, though.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)I must admit I don't know.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Here we go--March of last year: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/8386818/Hillary-Clinton-will-step-down-after-2012.html
Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, has confirmed that she will not serve in the next Barack Obama administration if the president wins a second term in 2012.
There's a bit of video/interview as well.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)This is from last October:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048271/Hillary-Clinton-yearns-private-life-2012-presidential-election.html
onehandle
(51,122 posts)I had problems finding links. HuffPo had it on their homepage, then pulled it.
Yes, we already knew she wasn't going past the President's first term.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Its not the first time shes said shes leaving government service after her current job, but Secretary of State Hillary Clinton definitively said today she wants out of politics.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/hillary-clinton-says-shes-ready-to-step-off-the-high-wire-of-american-politics/
onehandle
(51,122 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)She's basically giving them notice. Now's the time, if you wanna jump, to do it. You have a shot at a good slot in another agency, maybe working for a bullet proof incumbent on the Hill working international/state issues? JUMP! Go now! Get the good reference while people are still here to give it to you. Also, understand that if you are in one of my SECSTATE-designated "grace and favor" jobs, that the new guy or gal is going to want to put his/her own people in that slot, so start looking around for another slot in the civil service tier you might be able to slide into....
That's how I see it, anyway. To my view, it IS LBN--for those reasons, alone.
Botany
(70,500 posts)BTW this puts a stop to the karl rove / right wing dirty rumor that Biden will be Sec. of State
and Hillary will be Veep.
valerief
(53,235 posts)rurallib
(62,406 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Hillary Clinton Foundation. Her focus will be on those issues that have always been most important to her - women and girls. I would assume she will continue her work for housing/help for GLBT teens.
If she has annual summits I will attend. Can't wait. So much to do - so little time.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)She kept her word--no, she was better than her word--to campaign for the Obama-Biden ticket after the grueling primaries were over.
She will be my first choice for the nomination in 4 years if she wants it.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and I say this as one who fights with the hillary "supporters" that seem to hate Obama so much.
juajen
(8,515 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Her term as SoS has been one of the brightest spots of the last three years.
Warpy
(111,249 posts)by saying she's very much looking forward to retirement.
I knew she'd grow into the job as SOS and she did. She's been one of the better ones we've seen in the past 40 years or so. However, it's an exhausting job, the jet lag alone burning people out in record time.
Books and speaking engagements will be a lot easier on her. I hope she does both.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Skinner
(63,645 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Aside from the fact that you win the "I'm a total thread-shitter" prize with a quick and cheap piece of unsubstantiated snark.
You really want to discuss your gripes? Gird your loins and fire up a thread on the topic--don't do a wussy little chickenshit drive-by on a farewell thread.
Cheap shot. What sort of person delivers those? The question almost answers itself.
antigop
(12,778 posts)\
MADem
(135,425 posts)And while you're at it, the Ancient History Forum is that-a-way.
You're really a piece of work.
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MADem
(135,425 posts)Your thread hijacking conduct is unacceptable.
antigop
(12,778 posts)That's why we say GOOD RIDDANCE TO HER.
antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Response to MADem (Reply #56)
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antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)noticing your poor behavior. Thread hijacking is just one way that people "make DU suck." You are doing one heck of a job at crapping on a good thread, but I suspect that was your tiny little goal.
Keep it up, pal (and that was sarcastic, in case you didn't quite take my meaning).
antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)You want to play "call out" games? Start your own thread, or be vilified as a disruptor.
The only thing you are calling attention to is your shitty, uncivil conduct.
antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Speed8098
(1,655 posts)The moment you called her sHillary. He name is Hillary, or Madam Secretary, or Mrs. Clinton. You're free to dislike whomever you choose but expect to get flames when you act like a grade school kid by changing a name the way you did hers.
Intellectual people present a coherent argument, they don't act like children. Do you understand?
Sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it.
antigop
(12,778 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)juajen
(8,515 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)You have a right to your opinion and so does everybody else.
MADem
(135,425 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)juajen
(8,515 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)Being in LBN, it would seem open to various opinions?
I haven't read anything here even half as rough as what I've said on the site any number of times about HRC. Since when is calling someone a DLCer beyond the pale?
I couldn't care less whether HRC goes or stays - whichever, whomever is in the position will be a good servant of the MIC, so what matter which face s/he wears?
That I personally will be just as happy to not have to see or hear her so often is incidental. Changing the face will not change the hypocritical stock-phrases about how the US is bringing "peace and freedom" around the world, or the pandering to our sacred "homeland" "security."
She's served our Masters well and they've rewarded her well. Maybe they'll give her the Nobel Peace too. I'm sure she'll be more than comfortable in her retirement. It won't matter a lick to the rest of us.
MADem
(135,425 posts)bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)... since there must be at least a million instances of same in DU's history.
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antigop
(12,778 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)public service. Sometimes politics is the root of all evil.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Hillary does more to help others in one week that you'll ever do in a lifetime. Ditto for Bill.
antigop
(12,778 posts)blue_onyx
(4,211 posts)Hillary is responsible for policies her husband enacted?
BTW, how do you feel about Obama? He signed into law 3 more "free trade" agreements last year.
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)TBF
(32,050 posts)Chelsea has a facebook account now and it is being updated with her activities (which are interesting). She has never decided to have a public face in this way before and I hope it means she is thinking about running for office.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I don't like the whole concept of political inheritance. I think she has sufficiently visibility to do good without jumping into the arena.
I hope she does whatever makes her happy, though, at the end of the day. She seems like a good kid--smart as all get out, thoughtful, quick, with good values and more compassion than most at her age and stage of life.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)she has been.
Good luck!!
Demonaut
(8,914 posts)actually more exhausted
bayareaboy
(793 posts)she became Sec. of State. she did that job very well. I hope she retires, keeps her hubby in line, then thinks about becoming a Supreme!
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)not sure if there is a link anywhere where she has said that publicly, but Bill Clinton did say it in a recent interview on TV.
Number23
(24,544 posts)I will miss Hillary though. Missteps and all, she is my girl.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Susan Rice, if we've the choice between the two!
Number23
(24,544 posts)deacon
(5,967 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)You go Hilary...but first...relax...have fun and enjoy life...then write another book and work with Bill's Global Initiative.
bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)I mean, women and children have as much right to be blown to bits as men!
Liquorice
(2,066 posts)bad so many people have been ungrateful for her tireless service to our country and the world. She deserved to be treated much better, especially by her own party. I think most of it is sexism. We still have a long way to go in that regard in this country. I wish her all the best.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)That's why I'm now an Independent.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)been talk on how she looks absolutely exhausted. Couple that with several members of Congress getting cancer treatment, one can't help but wonder if possibly she might be seriously ill? I'm not out to start a rumor just that there's been true concern in Ark., asking if she is okay.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Look how tired we all claim to be after a trip...we blame it on jet lag. Why do you say she looks like she doesn't care? That's unfair!
Alcibiades
(5,061 posts)at the State of the Union Address. Nancy Pelosi looked much younger, though she's not, though she did look a little surprised.
I doubt she would be quitting her job if she had won the nomination for '08, though.
MADem
(135,425 posts)She's doing that stuff herself, and if her college years are any indication, she's a hippie from way back when, so I'm guessing she doesn't place a Callista-like emphasis on that kind of crap.
We also now see her under the glare of very unkind television lights, on digital televisions. No more fuzzy softness of the analog signals. It's a cruel venue, no matter who you are.
She's also constantly on the go. She never catches a break.
She needs a vacation and a regular schedule where she wakes up and goes to sleep in the same time zone for a few weeks at a time. Then she'll look like a million bucks.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)I am her age and if I had her job I would of required some upgrades.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And no shower? That's flat out cruel. She should be able to "live aboard" if need be.
Remember when GWHB and Bill Clinton--fresh off of heart surgery--went to help with tsunami aid on one of the old planes that used to do duty as AF ONE? Poppy grabbed the one bed, so Bill, fresh scar and all, had to sleep on the floor. Now if it were me, even if I were the older guy, I'd give the bed to the guy who just got outta heart surgery....but I couldn't sleep if I knew that someone fresh off the operating table wasn't able to be comfortable.
I was astounded that the staff didn't fucking THINK, myself--that would be the first thing I would have done if I were managing a trip for a distinguished set of visitors--you make sure there's enough food, enough places to crap/toilet paper, places to sleep, and a medicine chest full of OTC meds for any/every malady. Even if they had to haul in a cot and bolt it to the floor, they should have configured the place so both presidents could lay down and sleep.
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)She's worked her ass off for the last 20 years, including her years in the WH. Love her or hate her, you gotta admit she's brilliant, energetic and formidable . . .
AnnieBW
(10,424 posts)Traveling everywhere, constantly jetlagged, having to smile and be diplomatic, plus running a major department! She's GOT to be tired.
Hillary, I thank you for your service to your country. You've done a great job.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)but politics is in the Clintons' blood and Hillary has more stamina than people half her age.
There's this:
"I have made it clear that I will certainly stay on until the president nominates someone and that transition can occur" if Obama wins re-election, she told a town hall meeting. "But I think after 20 years, and it will be 20 years, of being on the high wire of American politics and all of the challenges that come with that, it would be probably a good idea to just find out how tired I am."
But, she appeared to leave the door open for a possible eventual return, adding to laughter from the crowd that "everyone always says that when they leave these jobs."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/26/hillary-clinton-stepping-down_n_1234221.html
So, here's hoping that after some time of much derserved rest she decides to run for president in 2016.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)she has done a credible job in rebuilding much of the goodwill lost during the 2001-2008 period.
Unfortunately, the Obama Administration inherited two unnecessary (one, at least, also illegal) wars in addition to the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s. It is still too heavy-handed in using military options/solutions, IMO. While I have not always been happy with the pace of withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, at least it is happening. What is sad is to see the devastation and instability that have been left behind after throwing trillions of $$$ badly needed in the US into the money pits, basically increasing the gap between wealthy and poor in those societies as well as our own and exacerbating their religious and ethnic differences, not to mention opening up more opium traffic from Afghanistan to the West. Those adverse consequences don't even include the hundreds of thousands of lives lost on all sides, as well as the millions whose lives have been adversely affected both here and abroad.
What continues to taint US foreign policy throughout much of the world, however, is the consistently festering - and, at times, explosive - I-P situation. So long as it exists as it does, there will never be stability anywhere in the ME, let alone peace. Frankly, so long as the USG continues to heed the most radically RW voices (both Jewish & Christian) in this matter, no fair resolution - or sadly even rational discussion of how best to proceed - will be allowed here.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Good role for her, IMO
Bruce Wayne
(692 posts)Dont' leave me, Hillary! I was just getting to know you!
Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)It sounds like she really isn't going to run in 2016. I was really, REALLY! hoping she would.
tropicanarose
(240 posts)I know that she has previously made a similar declaration earlier last year. I think it is odd that she would make this announcement right after the SOTU speech. I don't know how that looks for Obama. I don't think it was necessary for her to come out with such a strong message of NO given that she still has high approval ratings and it makes the Obama White House team not sound very cohesive (though I know that the SoS doesn't always stay on for a second term. I wonder if there is more to this......maybe it is wishful thinking on my part. In any event, she is an amazing human being--intelligent accomplished and inspiration to many--I still would like to see her run and WIN in 2016! =)
Beacool
(30,247 posts)She didn't call a press conference to announce her departure. Besides, she has been saying the same thing for months now.
As for her approval rating. She has been the most popular politician in the country for a long time now.
I too hope that she changes her mind and decides to run in 2016.
tawadi
(2,110 posts)WildFire43
(12 posts)I can't get over how tired she looked at the President's State of the Union address. She's worked so hard. No one could've done better and more and she deserves to enjoy what's left of her life and health instead of having it ruined by the cares and concerns of this corrupt government.