Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:59 PM Jan 2013

GOP memo brags party kept the House by gerrymandering

Source: Salon

By targeting legislature races in 2010, Republicans say they were able to keep control of the House

BY JILLIAN RAYFIELD

A new report from Republican State Leadership Committee boasts that the party was able to keep control of the House of Representatives by gerrymandering prior to the 2012 elections.

The RSLC’s report was called “How a Strategy of Targeting State Legislative Races in 2010 Led to a Republican U.S. House Majority in 2013,” and outlines how the group used $30 million to target Democratic-held state legislature races in 2010, in blue states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin.In the midterms that year, Republicans went from controlling 14 state legislatures across the country to controlling 25.

By pumping money into the relatively small-time races, the RSLC pushed in Republican legislators who in turn influenced the redistricting process in their states, which gave Republicans an edge in a number of congressional races in the 2012 elections.

“The rationale was straightforward,” the report says.“Controlling the redistricting process in these states would have the greatest impact on determining how both state legislative and congressional district boundaries would be drawn. Drawing new district lines in states with the most redistricting activity presented the opportunity to solidify conservative policymaking at the state level and maintain a Republican stronghold in the U.S. House of Representatives for the next decade.”

-snip-

Read more: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/17/gop_memo_brags_party_kept_the_house_by_gerrymandering/



Link to the RSLC report:
http://rslc.com/_blog/News/post/REDMAP_2012_Summary_Report
37 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
GOP memo brags party kept the House by gerrymandering (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
So are our Dems ON THIS??????? calimary Jan 2013 #1
The Democratic Party dropped the ball in 2010. yardwork Jan 2013 #6
The national democratic party got rid of Howard Dean...the ONE person who knew how to win loudsue Jan 2013 #11
Exactly what I was going to say ashling Jan 2013 #13
Yup. progressoid Jan 2013 #15
This has been going on for many years. BobbyBoring Jan 2013 #34
CITIZENS UNITED Gave the Rapeuglicans a Huge $$$$ Advantage AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #35
That is a good point, but the Democratic Party in NC did idiotic things in 2010. yardwork Jan 2013 #36
NC Dems have GOP in court on this. Expect summary judgement ruling end of January. blm Jan 2013 #18
I'd missed your thread. Kicked and recommended. Thanks. yardwork Jan 2013 #20
Well, ya know. Shadowflash Jan 2013 #2
Mean while we were pissed at Obama and upaloopa Jan 2013 #3
except that dems didn't stay home in 2010.. frylock Jan 2013 #16
Young folks ARE part of the Dem base, and they stayed home. nt SunSeeker Jan 2013 #17
young folks that voted for the first time in their lives in 2008? frylock Jan 2013 #19
Yes, first time voters are part of the Dem base. They have always voted overwhelmingly Dem. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #26
well in any case, it was them that stayed home.. frylock Jan 2013 #29
The gerrymandering sword cuts both ways. We tried to fix it in California, but it only got worse. slackmaster Jan 2013 #4
If that was true, it would have created a ton of safe Dem districts in the swing states. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #22
California's districts were gerrymandered by both Democrats and Republicans slackmaster Jan 2013 #23
The Dems can't hold a candle to the Repuke efforts. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #25
seems to have upset you that Democrats took more seats this cycle in California CreekDog Jan 2013 #37
When you can't win on policy, cheat. Scuba Jan 2013 #5
Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #9
yep that's how Michelle Bachmann's district was born gerrymandering azurnoir Jan 2013 #7
Brag it to the courts, motherfuckers. Hard Assets Jan 2013 #8
I'd be happy if they just didn't allow the legislature to be the group setting the districts. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #21
Welcome to DU. surrealAmerican Jan 2013 #24
If the district does not even closely matches the voters, then it needs to be redone Hard Assets Jan 2013 #32
It just means that when the house finally flips, it will be a catastrophic and overwhelming shift. Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #10
I believe women will turn the tide in the house in 2014. Plus the demographic shift. graham4anything Jan 2013 #14
They don't care who knows what they've done. Lugnut Jan 2013 #12
shouldn't the house be impeached? samsingh Jan 2013 #27
I would think so in a ideal world. Third Doctor Jan 2013 #30
hopefuly someone will look into the process samsingh Jan 2013 #31
Remember the "good ol' days"... KansDem Jan 2013 #28
As if this is a secret. At least they are dumb enough to brag of their crimes and lack of good Nika Jan 2013 #33

calimary

(81,192 posts)
1. So are our Dems ON THIS???????
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jan 2013

We keep getting caught flat-footed.

What is the strategy for making sure the state houses AND secretaries of state are in DEMOCRATIC hands - at EVERY decade mark.

THAT is when reapportionment takes place. 2000. 2010. 2020. 2030. How is the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee gearing up? We HAVE to have the state legislatures in Democratic hands. Is our side planning for this, for 2020? Or are they still nearsighted?

Besides, that's also how you head off the legislation to dictate forced vaginal probes and voter nullification and voter suppression! Or are we still playing catch-up on that? And now in Pennsylvania, they're fucking with the electoral college, because they know they can't win on merits so the strategy is to cheat. ARE WE ON TOP OF THAT?????????

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
6. The Democratic Party dropped the ball in 2010.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jan 2013

The behavior of the Party in my state was abysmal, and it directly led to severe gerrymandering that led to a Democratic majority at both the state and national levels in North Carolina.

Voters were never reminded that whichever party is in charge in decade years gets to redistrict. This is so fundamental and yet so many voters in North Carolina didn't have a clue.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
11. The national democratic party got rid of Howard Dean...the ONE person who knew how to win
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jan 2013

nation-wide. That's because the corporations control BOTH parties, and that's who the big money puts in to the party leadership.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
13. Exactly what I was going to say
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:40 PM
Jan 2013

50 State Strategy. They need to be on the ground in every state working on this ... last year!

Otherwise we are just left trying to clean up

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
34. This has been going on for many years.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jan 2013

That's the only way they can win other than plain old theft or SCOTUS decisions.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
35. CITIZENS UNITED Gave the Rapeuglicans a Huge $$$$ Advantage
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 12:25 AM
Jan 2013

2010 was the first national election after the "Citizens United" decision.

We were outspent four to one in some races because the Rapeuglicans had all that superpac money.

What COULD the Democratic party have done to counter that? No way to raise that kind of money in a midterm year.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
36. That is a good point, but the Democratic Party in NC did idiotic things in 2010.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:32 AM
Jan 2013

We had a very strong candidate, Elaine Marshall, to replace Rethuglican senator Burr, but the Democrats insisted on running an unknown candidate against her in the primary, and then they insisted on a run-off primary election! By the time she received the party's nomination she had spent all her money. Burr was reelected. This was a stupid, stupid move on the part of the Democratic Party (both state and national) and I haven't forgiven them. They did similar bonehead moves around the country.

blm

(113,040 posts)
18. NC Dems have GOP in court on this. Expect summary judgement ruling end of January.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:12 PM
Jan 2013

The NC case could prompt a domino effect. Without it we will NEVER retake the House.

See this thread about the NC case:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022207756

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
2. Well, ya know.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jan 2013

If your ideas suck and most people don't like them, cheat.

it's the way of the party of 'family values'.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. Mean while we were pissed at Obama and
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jan 2013

didn't bother to vote in 2010. You can't see the whole picture without including that piece. Just like in 1994 when Dems stayed home we end up getting kicked in the ass.
And no it wasn't gun control in 1994.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
16. except that dems didn't stay home in 2010..
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jan 2013

the people that stayed home in 2010 were the young folks and swing voters. the base turned out.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
26. Yes, first time voters are part of the Dem base. They have always voted overwhelmingly Dem.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jan 2013

That's why the Repukes have been doing everything in their power to make it hard to register to vote and hard for students to vote.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
29. well in any case, it was them that stayed home..
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:58 PM
Jan 2013

and NOT progressives that were dissatisfied with Obama, contrary to the conventional wisdom of the Sensible Centrists.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
4. The gerrymandering sword cuts both ways. We tried to fix it in California, but it only got worse.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jan 2013

Our state assembly and senate districts are heavily gerrymandered, and so are our Congressional districts.

The systematic creation of "safe" Democratic districts had the unintended but predictable consequence of creating safe Republican ones.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
22. If that was true, it would have created a ton of safe Dem districts in the swing states.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jan 2013

But no. Despite all the newly gerrymandered districts, there was no equal and opposite Dem advantage in those states. I'm not sure what you are referring to in CA. As far as I'm aware, the Dems have been trying to undo some outrageous gerrymandering that the Repukes did. Unfortunately, they have not been able to fix the ridiculous meandering sliver that is the long time district of that asshat, Dana Rohrabacher.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
23. California's districts were gerrymandered by both Democrats and Republicans
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jan 2013

It's as if they colluded with each other to divide up the pie. Here is a page with some prime examples on both sides:

http://www.peterates.com/props-1108.shtml#prop11

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
25. The Dems can't hold a candle to the Repuke efforts.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jan 2013

That link proves my point. The Repuke gerrymandering looks like snakes, like Rohrabacher's district. The Dem gerrymandering looks a lot more compact, with at best a few fingers. What's a joke about that argument in favor of Prop. 11 is to reduce "extremism" on both sides. What a bunch of false equivalence crap. The Repukes are the extremists. The Dems are what the Repukes used to be 50 years ago.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. yep that's how Michelle Bachmann's district was born gerrymandering
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jan 2013

they've trying for years to gerrymander Mpls/St Paul into one district rather than 2, no success though

 

Hard Assets

(274 posts)
8. Brag it to the courts, motherfuckers.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jan 2013

Gerrymandering should be made illegal if it's found to give heavy and unfair advantage to one side when the voters have determined that the redistricting does not meet the federal laws. Severe consequences should be slapped on the GOP, which should include long federal prison sentence, followed a fine of $1 billion payable to the Democratic Party, and loss of multiple seats, ordering a new special election to determine the voters intent.

 

Hard Assets

(274 posts)
32. If the district does not even closely matches the voters, then it needs to be redone
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jan 2013

CORRECTLY.

I am just amazed on how PA legislature has managed to redistrict one district into a shape of a buzzsaw. WRONG. That's grounds for a lawsuit, because I believe the area AROUND them should be reflected in that district, not some nice slice of R's spread around in a weird way so they can keep it.






Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
10. It just means that when the house finally flips, it will be a catastrophic and overwhelming shift.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jan 2013

Because what they have done is stretched themselves thin; diluting their stronghold majorities into barely sustainable majorities.

A few votes in these gerrymandered precincts is all it will take to flip them all in an avalanche.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
14. I believe women will turn the tide in the house in 2014. Plus the demographic shift.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jan 2013

and there are not that many seats needed to shift.

and it will be a major Democratic 2016 victory throughout the nation, senate, house, and Hillary.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
30. I would think so in a ideal world.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jan 2013

Control of the house does not reflect the will of the majority. This type of crap should not be happening.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
28. Remember the "good ol' days"...
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jan 2013

...when Repubs bitched and moaned about supposedly Democratic "gerrymandering" and so-called "activist judges?"

Seems like an eternity ago...

Nika

(546 posts)
33. As if this is a secret. At least they are dumb enough to brag of their crimes and lack of good
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jan 2013

ethical behavior.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»GOP memo brags party kept...