Mali's Army Accused of Abuses and Unlawful Killings as War Rages
Source: The Guardian (UK)
There are growing reports of extrajudicial killings and other human rights abuses in Mali, as troops battle Islamist militants in the west African country. Residents of Mopti, in the centre of the country, told the Observer of arrests, interrogations and the torture of innocents by the Malian army of those mistakenly suspected of involvement in rebel activity.
"One day my son just disappeared," said a woman from the Fulani ethnic group, who asked not to be named. "We looked for him there for two or three days, but couldn't find him. Then some people told us that on the day he left, the army shot two people and put them in a pit inside the military base."
The victim's cousin, who also asked to remain anonymous for fears of reprisals, said: "We are Fulani people, the soldiers can tell from our dress that we come from the north. Because of that, the army suspects us if we look like Fulani and don't have an identity card, they kill us. But many people are born in the small villages and it's very difficult to have identification. We are all afraid," the cousin continued. "There are some households where Fulanis or others who are fair-skinned don't go out any more. We have stopped wearing our traditional clothes we are being forced to abandon our culture, and to stay indoors."
Amnesty International says that it has documented evidence of abuse by the Malian army, including extrajudicial killings. It says that in September, a group of 16 Muslim preachers composed of Malian and Mauritanian nationals were arrested then executed by the Malian military in Diabaly. Some commentators in Mali speculate that the occupation of Diabaly by Islamist fighters whom French and Malian soldiers said they had defeated on Friday was sparked by vengeance for the actions of the Malian army there.
Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/19/mali-army-suspected-abuses-killings
msongs
(67,395 posts)And, don't you know, that's what it's all about.
Until the US is perfect, there are absolutely no moral standards for any other country in the world. After all, if the very best can't get it right every single time, how can lesser people ever be expected to have a chance? America, that shining city on the hill, is the one proper yardstick against which to compare all others.
Although it's surprising to see a vote for the belief that Americans are morally superior to others, whether Africans, Arabs, or Chinese, from a DUer.
(/sarcasm off)
A oost inadequate and unworthy as an attempt at a tu quoque fallacy.
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)while exploiting atrocities of the other side for demonization and legitimizing the war.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Say it isn't so. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
What are we expecting from this war? Fairness? Compassion?
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Your comment comes off as apologia for war crimes and human rights abuses.
Igel
(35,300 posts)All the usual things that often follow warfare, all the usual things that we overlook.
The Malian government troops and the French are the good guys.
If they're good guys, then they're good.
The good do not engage in ethnic cleansing, murders, rapes.
Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that the Malian troops aren't and cannot be engaged in ethnic cleansing, murders, rapes.
Problem solved. Assuming that we like our absurdly false premise.
Now, the trick is to remember this when judging those closer to home.
daleo
(21,317 posts)Other than pure self-interest, which actually means the financial interests of corporations and rich shareholders.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)As Dubya famously said: "Money sometimes trumps peace"
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)RILib
(862 posts)I told you so. But I'm sure Israel is happy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/20/world/africa/in-chaos-in-north-africa-a-grim-side-of-arab-spring.html
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Here's more from that unusually critical NYT article:
Its one of the darker sides of the Arab uprisings, said Robert Malley, the Middle East and North Africa director at the International Crisis Group. Their peaceful nature may have damaged Al Qaeda and its allies ideologically, but logistically, in terms of the new porousness of borders, the expansion of ungoverned areas, the proliferation of weapons, the disorganization of police and security services in all these countries its been a real boon to jihadists.
The crisis in Mali is not likely to end soon, with the militants ensconcing themselves among local people and digging fortifications. It could also test the fragile new governments of Libya and its neighbors, in a region where any Western military intervention arouses bitter colonial memories and provides a rallying cry for Islamists.