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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:30 AM Jan 2013

Texas to execute a woman, first in US since 2010

Source: Agence France-Presse

Texas to execute a woman, first in US since 2010

(AFP) – 8 hours ago

WASHINGTON — Kimberly McCarthy is set to become the first woman executed in the United States since 2010 on Tuesday after being condemned to death in Texas for murdering an elderly woman during a robbery.

McCarthy, 51, is black. Her victim, 70-year-old retired professor Dorothy Booth, was white.

McCarthy -- who has been on death row for 14 years -- is scheduled to be executed at 6 pm (2300 GMT) Tuesday after the US Supreme Court rejected her final appeal, prison officials said.

She will be just the 13th woman executed since the death penalty was reinstated in the United States in 1976.


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Texas to execute a woman, first in US since 2010 (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2013 OP
Texas Murderer Kimberly McCarthy To Face Rare Female Execution On Tuesday Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #1
are there other countries on "our level" that execute people ? JI7 Jan 2013 #2
Yes, but you don't want to know what that "level" entails. Fearless Jan 2013 #5
i just checked out the World Map on Death Penalty on Wiki JI7 Jan 2013 #3
So glad you've added this. Overwhelming. A real beacon of human rights, aren't we? Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #4
I never realized Japan has the death penalty lunatica Jan 2013 #7
I think amnesty international uses the term... iandhr Jan 2013 #18
Japan has a very interesting way of dealing with the death penalty Godhumor Jan 2013 #25
Japan has executed 91 prisoners since 1993 hack89 Jan 2013 #27
They hang them, too, which I was shocked to learn. joshcryer Jan 2013 #44
Different states in Australia abolished it at different times SwissTony Jan 2013 #45
illinois abolished the death penalty madrchsod Jan 2013 #9
Well, there is a Federal death penalty. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #16
14 US states have no death penalty iandhr Jan 2013 #17
I think the map is about countries, not states or territories within the countries lunatica Jan 2013 #29
Israel does not have the death penatly question everything Jan 2013 #21
They just assassinate them instead happyslug Jan 2013 #48
Of course there are constant stories from Israel question everything Jan 2013 #51
Mixed feelings pipoman Jan 2013 #6
I find it much easier to think that the government is committing a heinous crime lunatica Jan 2013 #8
not everything that is a crime when an individual does it should be a crime when the govt does it onenote Jan 2013 #10
Because it's against the law to do so lunatica Jan 2013 #12
But that's a simplistic approach--of course it is against the law to kill, but what about msanthrope Jan 2013 #15
I also think war is fundamentally a crime lunatica Jan 2013 #28
Perhaps not everything, but the death penalty isn't a bad place to start Major Nikon Jan 2013 #13
I view it more akin to pipoman Jan 2013 #35
That is still pandering to vengeance. Cal33 Jan 2013 #14
Do not underestimate the need for vengeance in a society. msanthrope Jan 2013 #30
I'm not underestimating the powerful urge for vengeance. The vendettas of Southern Europe and Cal33 Jan 2013 #31
Some people can never be trusted to pipoman Jan 2013 #36
It's difficult for people in prisons to commit further crimes. Let me Cal33 Jan 2013 #41
The realities pipoman Jan 2013 #42
What you say is true. At least there is a chance, however slight, of correcting the situation. But Cal33 Jan 2013 #49
She's a serial killer, up for execution. No way she gets a pardon. I don't believe in the death msanthrope Jan 2013 #11
She killed 3 women ages 71 to 85 Botany Jan 2013 #19
Indeed, she targeted friends of her mother, and her neighbor. She cut the ring off msanthrope Jan 2013 #20
Doesn't this suggest that she was crazy? Cal33 Jan 2013 #32
No. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #33
at lest she won't have to live in Texas any longer. I would choose death over Texas. olddad56 Jan 2013 #22
Texas is a horrible state to live in, at the local level politicans are so corrupt. Sunlei Jan 2013 #26
This Texan Is Gratified By Your Choice. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #38
as you should be. I'm equally gratified that you don't live in the US. olddad56 Jan 2013 #46
So I Can Quit Preparing My U.S. Income Tax Return? Hey, Thanks! Paladin Jan 2013 #47
sure, why don't you do that. olddad56 Jan 2013 #50
Did Perry chuckle when denied a clemency, the way Bush did? question everything Jan 2013 #23
Perry along with Texas are angels of death. PAINT THAT ON YOUR FAMILY ROCK PERRY. Sunlei Jan 2013 #24
She was a piece of work dem in texas Jan 2013 #34
However, after wednesday she'll never feel pain again, but if she got life without Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #37
Judge delayed the execution until april Botany Jan 2013 #39
It would be Texas primavera Jan 2013 #40
UPDATE: She's gotten a reprieve until April to give the defense time to pursue an appeal on the Brickbat Jan 2013 #43

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
1. Texas Murderer Kimberly McCarthy To Face Rare Female Execution On Tuesday
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:58 AM
Jan 2013

Texas Murderer Kimberly McCarthy To Face Rare Female Execution On Tuesday
BY Connor Sheets | January 28 2013 5:19 PM

Kimberly McCarthy will become the first victim of a rare female U.S. execution in more than two years if she gets a lethal injection Tuesday in Texas as planned.

~snip~
KXAN News reported that on Jan. 7 the U.S. Supreme Court turned down a request to review McCarthy's case, leaving no chance for her to avoid the death penalty beyond the unlikely possibility of a last-minute stay from Gov. Rick Perry.

A number of anti-death penalty groups have mobilized in the hope of getting McCarthy's death sentence overturned, but they were unsuccessful.

More than 1,600 people signed a Change.org petition aimed at stopping McCarthy's execution, stating that her addiction to crack cocaine led her to commit vile acts that she "she lives with daily and is deeply remorseful for."

More:
http://www.ibtimes.com/texas-murderer-kimberly-mccarthy-face-rare-female-execution-tuesday-1044052

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
4. So glad you've added this. Overwhelming. A real beacon of human rights, aren't we? Thank you. n/t
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:48 AM
Jan 2013

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. I never realized Japan has the death penalty
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:14 AM
Jan 2013

Or that Australia has abolished it. And South Africa, and Argentina. And Russia hasn't used it in the last 10 years.

Great map! Thanks for posting it.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
18. I think amnesty international uses the term...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:27 AM
Jan 2013

"Abolished in practice" When a country hasn't used it in 10 years. Because they have a death penalty law still on the books.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
25. Japan has a very interesting way of dealing with the death penalty
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jan 2013

Once someone is sentenced to death there is, for lack of a better phrase, an information embargo. No updates are given to news outlets, no public hearings, no lawyers making statements to the media...the sentenced just disappears from the public eye. The next public statement made in the case is after the execution occurs and is usually a very brief "He/she was executed at such and such time."

It is not a widely discussed topic.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
44. They hang them, too, which I was shocked to learn.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jan 2013

It's really weird for how far developed they are.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
45. Different states in Australia abolished it at different times
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jan 2013

Queensland was the first to do so in 1922. New South Wales did not abolish it until 1985 but hadn't actually executed anyone since 1940. All other states except Queensland ans the ACT executed people after 1940 but abolished it before NSW.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. Well, there is a Federal death penalty.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:18 AM
Jan 2013

If you commit a Federal crime in any state, including Illinois, you could still be executed.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
29. I think the map is about countries, not states or territories within the countries
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:01 PM
Jan 2013

I would expect a map only of the US to show each State.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
21. Israel does not have the death penatly
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:42 AM
Jan 2013

the only point of light in the whole middle east.

Since independence, it executed only once - Adolph Eichmann.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
48. They just assassinate them instead
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:55 AM
Jan 2013

Called ""extrajudicial punishment," "selective targeting," or "long-range hot pursuit""

http://www.meforum.org/515/the-logic-of-israels-targeted-killing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeted_killing#Use_by_the_Israeli_Government

I have NOT heard this about any other country that has abolished the Death Penalty or has NOT exercise the Death Penalty but it is a constant story out of Israel (and out of the US, but the US still has the Death Penalty).

question everything

(47,470 posts)
51. Of course there are constant stories from Israel
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jan 2013

it has a free press that reports and opines on everything.

I find it interesting that DUers don't care about atrocious acts in Syria, Egypt, the Congo, Chechnya, Iran, so many areas of the world, but any cry - true or false - from Israel get everyone here in a tizzy.

Why, is it OK for Arabs or Africans to torture and murder their own, and, of course, not to have free press, but not for, oh, white western (mostly) Israeli to defend themselves against Palestinians.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
6. Mixed feelings
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:56 AM
Jan 2013

not knowing the specifics of this case, there are some crimes which are so heinous that death seems the sensible punishment. Should victim's families have some input?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. I find it much easier to think that the government is committing a heinous crime
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:19 AM
Jan 2013

when putting someone to death for the crime of putting someone to death. Perhaps we should think that the State really should live by its own standards of decency and by its own laws.

If something is a crime when an individual does it shouldn't it be a crime when the government does it?



onenote

(42,694 posts)
10. not everything that is a crime when an individual does it should be a crime when the govt does it
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:42 AM
Jan 2013

I am opposed to the death penalty. But your question doesn't make a lot of sense. Presumably, you are not opposed to imprisoning those found guilty of various crimes even though if you and I "arrested" someone we suspected of committing a crime, held a "trial", and then locked them away in your basement, it would be, and should be, a crime.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. Because it's against the law to do so
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jan 2013

I wasn't talking about anarchy. I was talking about laws. It should be against the law to kill anyone. Especially when it's premeditated as it is when the State does it.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
15. But that's a simplistic approach--of course it is against the law to kill, but what about
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jan 2013

killing in the time of war? Justifiable homicide?

The fact is that we have always found some killings acceptable, and some not.

The death penalty is a killing that we have almost always found acceptable. The trick to ending the death penalty is to make it an unacceptable option.

How do you make the death penalty unacceptable? You make it unworkable. And you make it unworkable by showing that it can not be done fairly, efficiently, and well.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
13. Perhaps not everything, but the death penalty isn't a bad place to start
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jan 2013

Reasonable doubt is not an absolute standard. Juries and judges are not infallible. Law enforcement is not free of corruption. As such is stands to reason that our justice system can and has executed innocent people. I think it makes a bit of sense to question the morality of that response as this would not apply equally to other punishments.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
35. I view it more akin to
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:18 PM
Jan 2013

self defense. We are not talking about an innocent bystander who was victimized. OTOH, there have been cases I am sure of innocent people being wrongly convicted. This is why I'm torn. I have professionally interviewed quite a few convicted felons including murderers and worse..it is the worse I am thinking of..some things can never be forgiven..some people can never be trusted with freedom, others can never be trusted among humanity.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
30. Do not underestimate the need for vengeance in a society.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jan 2013

I'm not saying it's right--I'm saying it is there.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
31. I'm not underestimating the powerful urge for vengeance. The vendettas of Southern Europe and
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jan 2013

the clan wars of Northern Europe (Scotland) have lasted for generations,
sometimes even for centuries. This was giving in to one's most primitive
drives. Most of European countries have banned the death penalty since the
middle of the last century. We had it banned in 1962 (I think), but
re-instituted it in 1976 -- mainly at the insistence of the Republicans.
They seem to have less self-control and enjoy killing more.

I think Republicans give in to their primitive drives more readily than
Democrats do. Just look at the behavior of the corporate executives,
Neocons, and more recently the Teabaggers.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
36. Some people can never be trusted to
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jan 2013

live among humanity. Should innocent people be in jeopardy for the making of an error when we know what someone is capable of? How many fellow inmates and staff should we allow one person to hurt or kill before the problem is addressed in a way to preclude future victimization? I'm not saying this is so in this case, it is in other cases.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
41. It's difficult for people in prisons to commit further crimes. Let me
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jan 2013

bring up the case of Gov. Ryan of IL. Around the year
2000 there were 23 prisoners on death-row in IL. DNA
testing was rather new at that time, and Ryan ordered
all 23 of them to be tested.

It turned out that 12 of them were proven innocent. That's
more than half!! Ryan, who was a Republican by the way,
immediately stopped all further executions until further
study of the issue of the death sentence. Today, Illinois
is one of the states where capital punishment no longer
exists -- thanks to Gov. Ryan.

The death sentence is so final and permanent. I'm not
saying that half of all sentences are mistakes, but there
sure are many, many mistakes. Big time criminals know
how to make it look as though their crimes were committed
by someone else.

Another reason is that this form of punishment is brutal.
If the criminal has been brutal, it doesn't mean that the
government should be equally brutal with him. Two wrongs
don't make a right.

Not too long ago criminals were put to death by slow torture
and in a public place, often outside a church or cathedral.
Everybody came to watch -- the nobility as well as the
poor. And as far as the poor were concerned, it was the
only "entertainment' they had. Sadism was encouraged.

We have come away from those days, and we should stay
away!

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
42. The realities
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:26 PM
Jan 2013

of prison life is that the inside is a criminal enterprise. Staff and other inmates are victimized with some regularity in maximum security facilities. There aren't that many people who fit this definition of "someone who can't be trusted with humanity", are few and far between, but they do exist. There are people today in prisons across America who have repeatedly murdered and/or victimized while incarcerated and while free..these are the people who should be subject to death if anyone should..

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
49. What you say is true. At least there is a chance, however slight, of correcting the situation. But
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jan 2013

once an innocent person has been executed, there is no way of bringing him/her back
to life.

By the way, I first heard of private prisons only a few years ago. Such a thing should
never have existed. It is sheer greed and evil. The prison owners use the inmates
for profit because of enforced free labor. No doubt the owners are sociopaths devoid
of all conscience. Yes, they should be the prisoners, and not prison owners.

How could such a thing have come into being?! And it's official!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
11. She's a serial killer, up for execution. No way she gets a pardon. I don't believe in the death
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:53 AM
Jan 2013

penalty, but this case would get a capital charge and conviction, every time.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
19. She killed 3 women ages 71 to 85
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:31 AM
Jan 2013

I am anti death penalty .... it costs too much, it takes too long, and the
legal help those who are charged w/ capital crimes get sometimes is questionable
but as long as it is on the books this is a time for it.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
20. Indeed, she targeted friends of her mother, and her neighbor. She cut the ring off
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jan 2013

one victim--while she was still alive.

These were shocking killings. I am not surprised she got the death penalty in Texas, although I don't support the use of the death penalty.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. Texas is a horrible state to live in, at the local level politicans are so corrupt.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:23 PM
Jan 2013

It's a shame in America so many of the most local of BIG gov. local people!! are unregulated, good old boy /w their peers, and get away with such freedom breaking corruptions.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
47. So I Can Quit Preparing My U.S. Income Tax Return? Hey, Thanks!
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:37 AM
Jan 2013

I'll just tell the IRS that you said it was OK to do so.

I hope your life is illuminated by something more enlightened than your brain-dead hatred of my state.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
23. Did Perry chuckle when denied a clemency, the way Bush did?
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jan 2013

(Don't remember the date, before he became a president, of course)

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
34. She was a piece of work
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:28 PM
Jan 2013

Went to neighbor asking to borrow a cup of sugar, the neighbor let her in and she tried to kill her. She chopped her fingers off while she was still alive to get her rings. Stole her car and took the rings to a pawn shop to sell for money for crack. It was alleged that she had killed several others in the same way.

I am against the death penalty most of the time, but when you have a person who preys on old weak people, they don't deserve to live.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
37. However, after wednesday she'll never feel pain again, but if she got life without
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:26 PM
Jan 2013

parole she'd feel many, many more days of pain and anguish. Don't think she'd have many friends in prison.

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