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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:08 PM Mar 2013

Horse meat plant in US near approval

Source: Boston Globe

NEW YORK — With a horse meat controversy raging in Europe, the US Department of Agriculture is likely to approve a horse slaughtering plant in New Mexico in the next two months — making it the first time since 2007 that equine meat suitable for human consumption will be produced in the United States.

The plant, in Roswell, N.M., is owned by Valley Meat Co., which sued the USDA in the fall over the lack of inspection services for horses going to slaughter. Horse meat cannot be processed for human consumption in the United States without inspection by the USDA, so horses destined for that purpose have been shipped to places such as Mexico and Canada for slaughter.

Justin DeJong, a spokesman for the Agriculture Department, said several companies had asked the agency to reestablish inspection of horses for slaughter.

He said the Obama administration was urging Congress to reinstate an effective ban on the production of horse meat for human consumption; that ban lapsed in 2011.

Read more: http://bostonglobe.com/business/2013/03/01/chances-horse-meat-scandal/6SvMEKVgPwwkzLnftjIVwK/story.html

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Horse meat plant in US near approval (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Mar 2013 OP
Will we be able to send the horses-asses of Congress there?? Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #1
Boom! Ha!!! If only. valerief Mar 2013 #9
Hopefully soon they will also approve possum, squirrel, owl, gopher, snake, dog and cat too. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #2
Exoticmeat.com AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #3
Beverly Hillbillies food ...granny cooks up a delicious gopher gravey. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #7
There is a restaurant in Jacksonville with snake, kangaroo, alligator, crocodile, rabbit, & ostrich Freddie Stubbs Mar 2013 #17
Mule might be in your freezer first KamaAina Mar 2013 #19
Gawd, how gross. Myrina Mar 2013 #4
But apparently you had no qualms about cows, chickens or other animals Tempest Mar 2013 #5
Keyword being "before". Myrina Mar 2013 #6
How does it help to attack someone who is making an effort to avoid meat? athena Mar 2013 #13
HAHA, I knew it, it was all designed this way Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #8
Meh... Javaman Mar 2013 #10
We can finally make true the expression "I'm so hungry I could eat a dog" octothorpe Mar 2013 #12
LOL, you might not want to say that in the Philippines. They do eat dog. I'm not sure southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #15
It's not so much that they objected to eating horse. fasttense Mar 2013 #20
The French knowingly eat horse jmowreader Mar 2013 #30
Where do I find some of this tasty horse meat that is much discussed? Renew Deal Mar 2013 #11
Many years ago I went to Italy to visit my relatives. My cousin told me southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #14
If this venture fails I hope taxpayers aren't saddled with the costs. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #16
I knew somebody would trot out a corny joke like that NBachers Mar 2013 #18
Someone always does it just to stirrup things. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #21
This is going too far - Halter I'll Shoot! NBachers Mar 2013 #24
The mane point is there will be a stable supply of nc4bo Mar 2013 #26
Who knows- they're getting all whinny and off-track NBachers Mar 2013 #27
sounds like our illustrious gov wants to thin the wild horse herds wordpix Mar 2013 #22
Shaddup & Have a Boyger! harkonen Mar 2013 #23
Getting close and closer to Soylent Green underpants Mar 2013 #25
I've never understood why horse meat was banned in the first place. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #28
because most horses are treated with drugs Scout Mar 2013 #29

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
3. Exoticmeat.com
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:27 PM
Mar 2013

Not sure about dog/cat, but you can get the rest of that stuff.

Well, maybe not gopher. I don't know anyone that eats that. Aren't gophers somewhat toxic, at least to cats? Or maybe I'm thinking of the risk of using bait on them, if a cat finds and eats them...

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
19. Mule might be in your freezer first
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 05:15 PM
Mar 2013
Valley Meat sued Tom Vilsack, the agriculture secretary, and Al Almanza, the head of the food safety inspection service, charging that the department’s failure to offer inspection of horse meat violated the Federal Meat Inspection Act.

That law directs the agriculture department to appoint inspectors to examine ‘‘all amenable species’’ before they enter a slaughtering facility.

“Amenable species’’ were animals subject to the act the day before it was enacted, including cattle, sheep, pigs, goats, horses, and mules.


Gawd, government regulations are such a pain in the ass.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
4. Gawd, how gross.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:30 PM
Mar 2013

The older I get, the more vegetarian I become.

I need to go live in the woods & not deal with the horrific cruelty of other humans anymore.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
5. But apparently you had no qualms about cows, chickens or other animals
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:33 PM
Mar 2013

"the more vegetarian I become"

Which indicates you've eaten meat before.

athena

(4,187 posts)
13. How does it help to attack someone who is making an effort to avoid meat?
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:26 PM
Mar 2013

I used to love steak, until I saw Vegucated a few weeks ago. I was simply unaware of what goes on at factory farms, as is everyone who still eats meat. If you really care about animals, you would encourage and support someone who is making an effort to do better. Attacking them is selfish and achieves nothing beyond making you feel superior.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
8. HAHA, I knew it, it was all designed this way
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:47 PM
Mar 2013

So you say you won't eat horse eh? Well, youv've been eating it for awhile. So, would you like to buy some horse? Sure, why not.

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
10. Meh...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 01:20 PM
Mar 2013

it appears as if people in both England and France had been unknowingly eating it for years, yet get disgusted only now because it's been revealed to them.

A good portion of the world eats horse, a good number of nations eat cats and dogs and about 95% knowingly eats some form of insect.

Here in the states we like our "pets" separated from our food and consider bugs "icky".

Would I eat horse? sure why not? Probably, but it would more than likely be pretty tough since the fat content is really low.

I've tried insects and some of them are actually very tasty.

Dog and cat I have not, yet I probably still would try it. And I have owned dogs my whole life.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
12. We can finally make true the expression "I'm so hungry I could eat a dog"
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:21 PM
Mar 2013

wait...a horse.

I could probably try horse meat, but I don't think I could bring myself to eat a cat or dog though. It would be almost like eating human flesh for me. Which really makes no sense, since I have no issues with eating other cute animals.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
15. LOL, you might not want to say that in the Philippines. They do eat dog. I'm not sure
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:47 PM
Mar 2013

if most asian countries eat dog meat.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
20. It's not so much that they objected to eating horse.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:09 PM
Mar 2013

They just wanted to know what they were eating. They were passing off the horse meat in England and France as beef.

Here in the US they will probably pass a law soon saying you can't identify meat types on the label because it would be unfair to horse meat. People have given horse meat a bad name and most people wouldn't eat it or buy it if they knew it was horse meat. So the obvious solution is to not label any meats. Isn't that the argument for GMO foods NOT being labeled?

Anyway since corporations rule us all here in the US, you can expect there is going to be a campaign to talk up horse meat, especially for the starving, oops, I mean food insecure, poor.

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
30. The French knowingly eat horse
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 08:06 PM
Mar 2013

The problem in France is it was labeled as beef. The British don't eat horse.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
11. Where do I find some of this tasty horse meat that is much discussed?
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 01:47 PM
Mar 2013

Because I don't know of anyone serving it. Is this plant for exporting to Europe?

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
14. Many years ago I went to Italy to visit my relatives. My cousin told me
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:45 PM
Mar 2013

to taste this meat. I said it was delicious. He told me it was horse me. I thought he was joking but he wasn't. I think they eat horse meat over there. I don't see a problem with it if it is inspected and people know they are getting horse meat. I didn't notice any difference from eating a burger.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
26. The mane point is there will be a stable supply of
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 11:59 AM
Mar 2013

high quality, USDA inspected meat.

What will the neighsayers complain about next?






wordpix

(18,652 posts)
22. sounds like our illustrious gov wants to thin the wild horse herds
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:42 PM
Mar 2013

"The horses are taking over native wildlife's habitat" is the meme. Nothing about humans overpopulating (mining, fracking, wanting grazing lands for their domesticated herds) and taking over both native wildlife and horse habitat.

 

Peter cotton

(380 posts)
28. I've never understood why horse meat was banned in the first place.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:44 PM
Mar 2013

Why should it be any different than eating a pig or a cow?

Scout

(8,624 posts)
29. because most horses are treated with drugs
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 04:24 PM
Mar 2013

that make them unsafe for human consumption.

and because slaughter is NOT humane. and there are laws against abuse and neglect that can be enforced against people before the horses "have" to be sold to slaughter. because legal slaughter promotes THEFT of peoples horses by scumbags who then sell them to slaughter for profit.

and because the horses that are living in the wild, on the land that belongs to the american people, are not the property of the BLM to round up and sell to slaughter for profit.

and because the solution to overbreeding of horses is to stop breeding so many, not kill more of them for profit.

and because horses are not livestock, like it or not in many cases they are pets and coworkers like dogs. we don't slaughter and eat our dogs here in the U.S. when necessary, civilized people humanely euthanize and respect their dogs and horses.

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