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Judi Lynn

(160,451 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:25 AM Mar 2013

Google says FBI watching the web

Source: Agence France-Presse

Google says FBI watching the web
Date March 7, 2013 - 8:06AM

Washington: Google says the FBI is monitoring the web for potential terrorist activity, but it can't confirm the extent of the surveillance.

As part of the Google Transparency Report, the internet giant released data this week on so-called National Security Letters – official requests for data under the US Patriot Act passed after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

But Google said it was only allowed to provide broad ranges of numbers: in the years from 2009 to 2012, for example, it received between zero and 999 requests.

The requests affected between 1000 and 1999 accounts, except in 2010, when the range was 2000 to 2999 accounts.

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-says-fbi-watching-the-web-20130307-2fmpe.html#ixzz2Mpg2iSux

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Google says FBI watching the web (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2013 OP
Please, like everything stored on every server in the U.S. isn't stored at NSA HQ MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #1
Shocking. :) lexw Mar 2013 #2
easier than watching wall street nt msongs Mar 2013 #3
Yep... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #12
Yep, that's because pot smokers are the most dangerous threat the US faces! RKP5637 Mar 2013 #32
Well, duh. bluedigger Mar 2013 #4
Anyone who doesn't know that ALL web traffic is tracked is a fucking moron alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #5
What you said. cliffordu Mar 2013 #7
And they still need reasonable cause to access it Lordquinton Mar 2013 #15
I'm fairly sure that the concept of "it's easier to ask forgiveness, than to ask permission.", tavalon Mar 2013 #17
Just because you ask for forgiveness, doesn't mean it will be granted Lordquinton Mar 2013 #19
American with law on side showing forgiveness panzerfaust Mar 2013 #24
"government is king" tisk tisk ...corporations/banks are the government. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #36
What Is This RobinA Mar 2013 #22
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #26
Oh look , Tea Party art offered by a supposed liberal. Take your shit back to Free Republic geek tragedy Mar 2013 #28
No, "they" do not. panzerfaust Mar 2013 #23
Well.... FUCK THE FBI, cliffordu Mar 2013 #6
Oh, hey, it's Agent Mike! Hekate Mar 2013 #8
Naw, he's been here. cliffordu Mar 2013 #9
Just hangin' out... Hekate Mar 2013 #10
If you've ever been on the Internet, you've been profiled. Every search and every click is recorded. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #11
Well, not every search if you use startpage.com Amonester Mar 2013 #13
that's why I ONLY do searches for "Mature Amateur" cliffordu Mar 2013 #14
Gee, I wonder if they monitor muli-player game servers.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #16
What about World of Warcraft? onehandle Mar 2013 #30
If this were the Bush Years they would be doing searches for witchcraft.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #34
Perhaps the FBI is using Google Alerts Dan de Lyons Mar 2013 #18
Can Google confirm its more than willing participation? nt onehandle Mar 2013 #20
Exactly. n/t Earth_First Mar 2013 #21
We participate, why shouldn't Google? panzerfaust Mar 2013 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Gabby Hayes Mar 2013 #25
Reminds me of a Knights of the Dinner Table comic Hayabusa Mar 2013 #29
Their only limit is budget and manpower restraints, but we are paying multiple, overlapping Dustlawyer Mar 2013 #31
Eventually most of the US will be under surveillance and eventually in jail. It's good RKP5637 Mar 2013 #33
Giving up freedom for security ...we deserve neither. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #35
What, and Google doesn't like the competition collecting info on people? hughee99 Mar 2013 #37
Google is bad news. Snarkoleptic Mar 2013 #38
Imagine the internet is a jar of cookies Tabasco_Dave Mar 2013 #39
"Google Transparency Report" ...... what a joke. didact Mar 2013 #40
Frank Church warned us. Octafish Mar 2013 #41
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
12. Yep...
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:49 AM
Mar 2013

also easier to jail pot smokers than it is to jail Wall Street criminals. They always go after easy targets.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
32. Yep, that's because pot smokers are the most dangerous threat the US faces!
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:35 AM
Mar 2013


Exactly, they go after east targets ... and see aren't we great, your tax dollars at work, getting those dangerous pot smokers, especially those growing it in their backyard. And don't forget those horribly ill that get relief from pot, can't have that going on, pain and suffering is great for them, but let's jail them just to show we're working hard to protect you.
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. Anyone who doesn't know that ALL web traffic is tracked is a fucking moron
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:20 AM
Mar 2013

Privacy as we have understood it is a print concept. It simply doesn't exist anymore. The sooner we stop being babies about that, the better off we'll be. Every time you click, it is tracked. Deal with it.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
15. And they still need reasonable cause to access it
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:09 AM
Mar 2013

doesn't matter the format, the Constitution still applies.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
17. I'm fairly sure that the concept of "it's easier to ask forgiveness, than to ask permission.",
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:47 AM
Mar 2013

has been firmly in place longer than you or I would care to contemplate. I suspect you might have noticed that the constitution has been taking a bloody beating in the last few decades.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
19. Just because you ask for forgiveness, doesn't mean it will be granted
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:52 AM
Mar 2013

Trials have been lost because they didn't go through proper channels, they have a lot of room to run roughshod, but we still have a lot of laws on our side, not gonna throw in the towel yet.

 

panzerfaust

(2,818 posts)
24. American with law on side showing forgiveness
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 09:41 AM
Mar 2013


Your ideas are so Twentieth Century: Get with this wonderful New American Century, where government is king.

In that old world, the man with blood on is pants would have been considered a criminal, now he is a Hero (TM).

First it was brown people in other countries who were the target, now it is anyone in America who is not part of the power structure.



More Heros(TM) waging war on Terra: We will get what we deserve.

Response to RobinA (Reply #22)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. Oh look , Tea Party art offered by a supposed liberal. Take your shit back to Free Republic
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 09:57 AM
Mar 2013

where it and you belong.

The title of that piece of shit is "One nation under socialism"

Link for hypersensitive alerters:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2012/04/controversial-obama-painting-offered-for-sale.html

The original of this painting was sold to Sean Hannity, btw.

 

panzerfaust

(2,818 posts)
23. No, "they" do not.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 09:28 AM
Mar 2013

Please do try to keep up: President Bush asserted, and president Obama has extended, the concept that the power of anti-terrorism actions is outside the scope of judicial review.


cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
6. Well.... FUCK THE FBI,
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:20 AM
Mar 2013

and the black fishnets J.Edgar rode in on.

Fucking weaksauce twerps.

(Just kidding, Officer Mike!!)

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
11. If you've ever been on the Internet, you've been profiled. Every search and every click is recorded.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:43 AM
Mar 2013

It's easier to compile enemies lists.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
13. Well, not every search if you use startpage.com
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:51 AM
Mar 2013

since your IP is not passed to giggle inc for them to suck it up

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
14. that's why I ONLY do searches for "Mature Amateur"
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:56 AM
Mar 2013

on the google.

One mistaken link and you could wind up on a registry.

Shit.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
16. Gee, I wonder if they monitor muli-player game servers....
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:12 AM
Mar 2013

All of those guys out there playing Halo are gonna have to explain emails talking about RPGs.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
30. What about World of Warcraft?
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:17 AM
Mar 2013

Orcs are basically Klingons, who are basically Soviets, who are gone — therefore Orcs are basically Muslim Extremists!

Dan de Lyons

(52 posts)
18. Perhaps the FBI is using Google Alerts
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:33 AM
Mar 2013

If you google (tm) "Google Alerts," you will learn how you, too, can have google send you info on a topic or a person of interest. I get "Bradley Manning" alerts daily.

This email will now go into my little file. Or my dozen little files, more likely.

If you set up an alert for "Bush indicted" you may be able to watch history happen on the big screen. "torture trials begin" "FBI Google Alerts"

When governments do it, it's called "data flow harvesting". When people do it, it's called stalking.

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
29. Reminds me of a Knights of the Dinner Table comic
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:02 AM
Mar 2013

Where while playing a game like Call of Cthulhu as themselves, in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, the member with a laptop looks up how to make explosives to get the materials in game, location of gun stores and layouts of large buildings in their city to find a place to hole up.

Cut to Homeland Security where a new member on the team begins to think that a big attack is incoming while his supervisor recognizes that it's Muncie, Indiana, and dismisses the whole thing because it's large gaming population and the fact they've been burned there before.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
31. Their only limit is budget and manpower restraints, but we are paying multiple, overlapping
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:46 AM
Mar 2013

agencies to watch us!

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
33. Eventually most of the US will be under surveillance and eventually in jail. It's good
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:39 AM
Mar 2013

business for corporate prisons. Maybe most of us are already in a virtual jail and just don't get it ... AKA The Matrix.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
38. Google is bad news.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:49 PM
Mar 2013

I like this search engine.
https://startpage.com/

Startpage Protects Your Privacy!

Startpage, and its sister search engine Ixquick, are the only third-party certified search engines in the world that do not record your IP address or track your searches.
Your privacy is under attack!

Every time you use a regular search engine, your search data is recorded. Major search engines capture your IP address and use tracking cookies to make a record of your search terms, the time of your visit, and the links you choose - then they store that information in a giant database.

Those searches reveal a shocking amount of personal information about you, such as your interests, family circumstances, political leanings, medical conditions, and more. This information is modern-day gold for marketers, government officials, black-hat hackers and criminals - all of whom would love to get their hands on your private search data.

Why should you worry?

Major search engines have quietly amassed the largest database of personal information on individuals ever collected. Unfortunately, this data can all too easily fall into the wrong hands. Consider the following story:

In August 2006, the online world was jarred when AOL accidentally released three months' worth of aggregated search data from 650,000 of its users, publishing all the details in an online database.
That database is still searchable. It is an absolute eye-opener to see the potential for privacy nightmares.

Tabasco_Dave

(1,259 posts)
39. Imagine the internet is a jar of cookies
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:30 AM
Mar 2013

and the government is a 5 year old kid. No matter how many times you say no he will still try to get those cookies.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
41. Frank Church warned us.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 06:27 PM
Mar 2013


“That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

"I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capability that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.”

Frank Church and the Abyss of Warrantless Wiretapping
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