Anti-gun concerned ‘moms’ escorted from NRA headquarters by police

[Omaha Steve]

Source: Daily Caller

Representatives from the pro-gun control organization Momsrising.org was escorted out of National Rifle Association (NRA) headquarters in Fairfax, Va., Thursday afternoon after staging a disruptive demonstration against the leading gun-rights group.

Moms Rising members attempted to enter NRA headquarters to deliver petitions, which they claimed had been signed by mothers across the country, advocating for a federal assault weapons ban and universal background checks. But apparently the concerned mothers’ actions were disruptive enough to warrant a call to the police, who escorted the protesters away from the NRA building.

Moms Against Rising claimed on its Facebook page that the NRA called the police on “mothers, children, and families.”

“Today, the NRA has demonstrated that they don’t want to listen, that they don’t want to hear from families, and that they don’t want to have a productive conversation to make America’s families safer,” MomsRising.org executive director Kristin Rowe-Finkbeiner said after her group’s demonstration necessitated police action.

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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/14/anti-gun-concerned-moms-escorted-from-nra-headquarters-by-police/

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[TheCowsCameHome]

1. Aw, big bad NRA cowards, afraid of a few women

By the way, Fuck the NRA.

[sangsaran]

6. You could have said

"protesters" instead of "women".

If you call people cowards for being afraid of women, it... sort of comes off as sexist, to me.

[TheCowsCameHome]

29. I could have,

but I didn't.

[maxsolomon]

2. Really? Linking to the Dailycaller?

"which they claim had been signed by mothers..."

[Omaha Steve]

4. Local TV coverage

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/14/momsrising-protesters-turned-away-from-nra-headquarters/



WASHINGTON (CBSDC)- Within days of the Sandy Hook shootings, MomsRising.org launched a petition in support of what they call common-sense gun regulations.

On Feb. 14, the two-month anniversary of the massacre, the organization delivered a petition to U.S. Senators and Members of Congress. On Thursday, three months after the shootings, members attempted to bring 130,000 signatures to the National Rifle Association of America headquarters in Fairfax.

Dozens marched with signs, and others pushed strollers full of the physical copies of the petition, but they were met at the property line by security and turned away.

Kristin Rowe-Finkbeiner, co-founder, executive director and CEO of MomsRising, wrote NRA president David Keene a letter on March 5 requesting a meeting with him.

FULL story at link.

[Whoopdedoo]

5. Yes

The Daily Caller where posters are oh so witty:
"Martin • 12 minutes ago −
Just do us a fav & shoot um"
1 (That was an approval one up) •Reply•Share ›
Just to even up that OK.

[coffeenap]

3. Their blog post is here:

This just happened: The NRA had the police escort MomsRising.org mothers, children, and families off the premises when we attempted to deliver over 100,000 messages from moms across the nation today. We were stunned. We hoped the NRA leadership would meet with us (or at least accept the messages) because moms across the country are concerned about [...]


http://www.momsrising.org/

[ProgressiveProfessor]

13. Why should they meet with them...

Notionally its a case of one advocacy group declining to meet with one of their opponents. I see nothing but a media event here.

What would be the reaction if Brady Bunch refused to meet with the 2nd Amendment Foundation?

[Homerj1]

14. It was a plubcity stunt

no more no less...

[ProgressiveProfessor]

15. Indeed, nothing but one

[classykaren]

20. I see the start of a Mothers against drunk driving like group

Remember before MADD? Do not underestimate them.

[Homerj1]

22. You confuse a right (2nd amendment)

with a crime (drunk driving).

[Aristus]

23. Just because it's a right doesn't mean it's not a crime.

Slavery used to be a right, despite the devastation it caused to families, our culture, the moral conscience of the nation, and of course, its precipitation of the Civil War.

Ignoring the devastation guns cause to families, society and our national morality makes the very notion of 'rights' laughable.

[Homerj1]

24. where in the BOR was

slavery a "right", the 2nd proclaims our rights to defend ourselves(among other uses), while slavery DENIED liberty to fellow human beings. I know you find it hard to see the difference, its all about CONTROL to pro-gun controlers

[Aristus]

26. It's not in the Bill of Rights. It's in the U.S. Constitution. Article I, Section 2, Paragraph 3.

Slaves are referred to here as "three fifths of all other persons" for purposes of apportioning Congressional districts by population. Slave owners wanted their human 'property' to be counted as population, but not as citizens. It required a Constitutional Amendment to deny slave-owners the 'right' to own slaves.

I should have known better than to rattle your cage. The CAPITALIZATION and lack of proper punctuation is a dead giveaway.

Gun crazies...

[Homerj1]

32. I asked for the BOR not the Constitution

The north not the south wanted them counted as 3/5 a person so as not to overwhelm them in the congress.


Oh for the record I'd rather be a "gun-crazy" then a control freak. I bet a dollar you are for bloomies soda regs and other measures that is in out best "interests". Oh substitute grammar with punctuation

[IMG][/IMG]

[Progressive dog]

44. bye bye

And you want to be on DU so you can bring NRA propaganda here. BTW the 3/5 was a compromise not a Northern thing. The south not only wanted slaves but also wanted the slave owners to have votes for them, to keep political power.
You do understand that some rights are in the body of the Constitution? You might want to read it rather than trusting the gun lobby.

[Homerj1]

46. When did I say that rights didn't

exist in the constitution? The 3/5ths rule was most definitely a north thing, they didn't want the south to use them for house apportionment

You could have made a tiny mistake, the BOR and the Constitution doesn't grant us rights. They more or less tell what the govt can't do. No piece of paper grants you rights.

[Progressive dog]

55. my god, you don't even read what you write

Maybe you should argue with yourself. BTW I know I'll just get repetition, but the fact is that the 3/5 rule was a compromise. The south wanted 100% count for elections and 0% for taxes. They got 60-60,which kept them in control of the government until the election of 1860.

[etherealtruth]

27. Hell yes it is about control

Controlling something that threatens the health safety and well being of society.

[Homerj1]

28. Then you are against

making drugs legal? they have caused as much or more sorrow then guns.

[etherealtruth]

30. Welcome to DU

it is always nice to have a new member come and post exclusively about their love of guns!

Some come and post about social justice, racism, sexism homophobia .... others spend a lot of time advocating for universal health care, world peace. Many more divide their time between all of these issues and more. Some even work arguments for gun ownership when not posting on other liberal issues (and they do post about liberal causes and values)

It is nice to see singleness of purpose .... focus and attention in one area .... specialization.

Welcome

[Homerj1]

33. Do you have a problem with that?

I see others do the same thing with other topics, I don't see you chastising them for it.

[etherealtruth]

34. It certainly is an odd thing to desire to post on a liberal website solely promoting gun ownership

there is no doubt that there are liberal gun owners.

I see them here every day. They support many liberal causes and also happen to support gun ownership. It is easy to agree to disagree with them on this one subject.

You are correct, I view a person that strongly supports social justice, and posts exclusively advocating for social justice, far differently than I do a person that comes solely to extol the virtues of gun ownership.

[Homerj1]

36. Can you do me a favor?

Can I get my foot in the door before you slam it shut? Damn if I had as many posts as you and did nothing but talk about gun rights then I can see your point. I am pro-choice, pro-civil rights but those issues here everyone agree's with so I didn't come here looking just to say yes I agree with you.


Unlike you I don't put certain rights above others, the 1st is just as important to me as the 2nd etc.

[etherealtruth]

38. I do put certain rights above others

I do not consider the ownership of a gun on par with the fight against poverty, the right to health care, marriage equity, the right for a woman to choose how and when (or if ) she reproduces or any other basic human rights.

Thank you for sharing your views on choice, civil rights (for all, I hope?) ... I am hoping you will share your opinions and insights on those issues

[Omaha Steve]

45. They had the FIRST (and at that time only) story in goggle news

A source is a source.

Any other questions?

[etherealtruth]

48. I am not sure what your response is in reference to?

You responded to a reply I posted to a poster that (at the time) had solely posted regarding the wonders and glory of "gun rights".....?

I recommended your OP and commented in the thread that I had like what the "Mom's" had done.

So, yes I do have more questions ... what is your response in reference to?

[Omaha Steve]

57. Sorry, I replied in the wrong place when I was in a hurry

I was replying to this: Really? Linking to the Dailycaller?

[Son of Gob]

39. Your new friend here signed up 5 years ago and just now started posting

Nothing curious about that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=214424

[etherealtruth]

40. Yeah

[Kolesar]

51. We got trolls and we got moles...eom

[Son of Gob]

58. Shockingly, he turned out to be a sock puppet.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=214424&sub=trans

[etherealtruth]

25. You confuse with legality with morality

Like MADD these mothers are protesting/ opposing something that threatens the health, safety and well being of the public!

[red dog 1]

21. So it was a publicity stunt..What's wrong with that?

It did the job....The Moms are getting publicity for their cause; aren't they?

[etherealtruth]

35. Sounds like a pretty smart thing to me

They have drawn attention to their cause.

good for them!

[Homerj1]

37. not all attention

is good attention.

[red dog 1]

42. Not all attention is good attention?

What the hell does that mean?

These Moms care enough about their kids to do what they did today.

Should they have just stayed home?

[LanternWaste]

54. Nor may wisdom be found in bumper-stickers sentiments

Nor may wisdom be found in bumper-stickers sentiments, and hand-me-down platitudes... regardless of how strongly we may allow them to validate us.

[red dog 1]

41. I agree with you 100 percent.

[Phlem]

7. Democracy in action!

-p

[onehandle]

8. More of this, please. We will not forget, proprietors of domestic terrorism. nt

[baldguy]

9. Why is "moms" in quotes? Is the RW Daily Caller saying they're not moms?

Or they just trying to put a positive spin on some bad press for the NRA by questioning the motives/identity of the protesters?

[sangsaran]

11. The latter.

Anyone who actually cares about our nation's children must be a liar, because the Republicans are the Party of Family Values™.

[blm]

10. So, they hate the FIRST Amendment?

And don't want it to be practiced around THEM, eh?

[hughee99]

19. Does the FIRST Amendment cover a person's right to protest

another group on that group's own private property?

[The Straight Story]

31. Probably not - see abortion clinics and protesting

People don't seem to have the same view on it when it comes to some places.....

[daleanime]

53. Does the NRA have a history of receiving threats?

Have NRA offices been bombed?

Have people who work in NRA offices been killed because of that?




Then its not the same thing.

[mwrguy]

12. Fuck the NRA

That is all.

[MindPilot]

16. Odd

I'm recalling all the events; democratic candidates speaking and men standing around blatantly asserting their2nd amendment rights while carrying signs that in some cases were real close to overt threats. They were not escorted away.

Perhaps if the moms returned, but this time with Bushmasters slung over their shoulders...

You know, just to see if that would make a difference.

[Bjorn Against]

17. These Moms rock!

[red dog 1]

18. Thanks to Omaha Steve for posting this.

Last edited Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:57 AM - Edit history (2)

The story is up on the Internet in a Washington Post article by Tom Jackman, who writes a Northern Virginia Blog called The State Of Nova.
Titled..."Petitions seeking reduction in gun violence taken to NRA headquarters, but NRA won't accept them."

The MomsRising group was joined by the Reston-Herndon Alliance To End Gun Violence, who have begun gathering outside the NRA headquarters on the 14th of every month, the day that 20 children were killed in Newtown, Conn.

"This is more than just a protest," said Joanna Simon of the local group, "to remember all people killed by gun violence."

The NRA did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

I was unable to find a working link to this article ....perhaps someone else can.


Another article on the story is at:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/03/14/1194060/-NRA-Calls-Cops-on Moms-and-Kids

This Daily Kos article also provides a link to sign the MomsRising petition.

[fascisthunter]

43. fascism... the gun industry's lobbying group has more rights than ordinary tax payers

proof

[premium]

47. Maybe you missed the part where they came onto private property?

Property owners have every right to call the police and have trespassers removed.

By the way, I detest the NRA.

[Blandocyte]

49. First read it as "anti gun noms." Latella moment.

What? Did someone deliver anti-gun cupcakes?

[primavera]

50. They should count themselves lucky that they didn't get shot

The National Murderers' Association is very big on that whole Stand Your Ground, right to kill anyone who enters your property sort of thing.

[SayWut]

52. Step in the lions den,

expect to get bitten.

Moms Against Rising claimed on its Facebook page that the NRA called the police on “mothers, children, and families.”

Kind of shameful and cowardly of them to make a statement like that, when their intent is
to use their 'special' status as a shield against action or criticism. If they had simply stated "concerned citizens against gun violence", it would have been more truthful and genuine.

[LanternWaste]

56. And the implication of support for a right-wing political action committee...

And the implication of support for a right-wing political action committee by the USual Suspects at DU (not referring to OP) continues under the guise of, wait for it... feigned concern.

Never could have seen that coming.

A shocker.