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alp227

(32,018 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:03 PM Mar 2013

Alberta lobbies for Keystone XL in New York Times ad

Source: Canadian Press

The Alberta government, continuing to press its case for the Keystone XL pipeline, took out an ad in Sunday’s New York Times newspaper, tying the controversial project to core American values and to U.S. pride in its military.

The half-page ad is headlined “Keystone XL: The Choice of Reason.”

It acknowledges the validity of environmental concerns, but stresses the $7-billion pipeline is about much more than that.

“America’s desire to effectively balance strong environmental policy, clean technology development, energy security and plentiful job opportunities for the middle class and returning war veterans mirrors that of the people of Alberta,” reads the $30,000 ad.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/03/17/alberta-lobbies-keystone-xl-new-york-times.html

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mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
1. I think the Canadians ought to keep it and refine it right there in Canada.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:21 PM
Mar 2013

I get enough pollution on the Texas Gulf Coast without adding in crappy crap from Canada to the mix.

Oh, I know, they don't want to build pipelines or refineries. Tired of being the garbage dump for just anybody.

homegirl

(1,428 posts)
2. Does it make sense
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:40 PM
Mar 2013

to sell shale oil or any kind of finite energy resource to China? By doing so we enable them to convert to alternative energy sources while we pollute our air and water to support their industry, which is killing our industry. How stupid can we be? Let Canada build a pipeline through their pristine plains and mountains.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
3. Wow - that is about as dishonest as you can get
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:04 PM
Mar 2013

It is expected to create 35 full time jobs - and I have no idea of their quality. Clean technology development??? From a pipeline?? (This is not about getting the oil or refining it.)

 

penndragon69

(788 posts)
4. Cannada wants to send this TOXIC sludge to texASS
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:18 PM
Mar 2013

so they don't run the risk of poisoning THEIR ground water.
And the other reason is just as bad, they want all the TOXIC
waste from the refineries to be dumped in texASS rather than Canada.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
6. You are aware that this "sludge" has been refined in Alberta for more than forty years right?
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 06:35 PM
Mar 2013

and had been exported to the US almost as long.

The issue in Western Canada is there just isn't enough demand for refined products, because for all practical purposes nobody lives there. The purpose of the Keystone pipelines is to connect to US refineries where, you know there are like people and stuff.

The first keystone pipeline and Enbridge Alberta Clipper serves refineries in the upper-midwest, Keystone XL will serve refineries in Oklahoma and Texas.

I'm not sure why people have latched onto Keystone XL. Alberta Clipper was approved in 2009 without any serious opposition. The original Keystone pipeline was approved in 2008 without any serious opposition.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
8. Alberta Clipper and the original Keystone don't cross the water supply for half the United States
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 10:59 PM
Mar 2013

The purpose of Keystone XL is to make it cheap to export the oil.

If they really want to export this oil, why, pray tell, couldn't they build refineries in Alberta (where, as you say, almost no one lives), pipe the refined product to the Puget Sound and the Great Lakes, and ship it out from there?

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
9. No the purpose of Keystone XL is to access the enormous refining capacity on the Texas gulf coast.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:17 PM
Mar 2013

Texas has more than a quarter of all the refining capacity in the United States. There is no conspiracy here.

And both the original Keystone and Clipper pipelines traverse plenty of sensitive areas. The Kinder Morgan Express pipeline already roughly follows the same contour at Keystone XL will.

The pipeline that will be used for export is Enbridge Northern Gateway which will export via Kitimat.

I'm curious as to what interests have astroturfed this issue, but at the end of the day it will be built.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
10. Labor is cheaper in Texas than Alberta
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 12:02 AM
Mar 2013

So big multi-national firms want to take advantage of that fact to boost profits.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
7. The NYT took the money for the ad and that's about it.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 06:57 PM
Mar 2013

And the Alberta gov isn't socialist, except for the corporate welfare it provides to its 'small circle' of friends on oil corp. boards...

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
11. I must admit, I've never seen Conservatives, and the oil lobby
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:49 AM
Mar 2013

so desperate. Do they know something that we don't? Here in Canada, they are flooding the airwaves and the PMO's 1500 staffers are trying to co-opt the intertubes with a pro-oil message.

 

magic59

(429 posts)
12. The US will soon be Canada's diaper
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:14 AM
Mar 2013

If it isn't already with all the industrial garbage we import from them.

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