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grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 06:48 PM Mar 2013

Both sides agree on tough new fracking standards

Source: AP


PITTSBURGH — Some of the nation's biggest oil and gas companies have made peace with environmentalists, agreeing to a voluntary set of tough new standards for fracking in the Northeast that could lead to a major expansion of drilling.

The program announced Wednesday will work a lot like Underwriters Laboratories, which puts its familiar UL seal of approval on electrical appliances that meet its standards.

In this case, drilling and pipeline companies will be encouraged to submit to an independent review of their operations. If they are found to be abiding by a list of stringent measures to protect the air and water from pollution, they will receive the blessing of the new Pittsburgh-based Center for Sustainable Shale Development, created by environmentalists and the energy industry.

Read more: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/03/both_sides_agree_on_tough_new.html



The industry is generously going to "self-police"! Well, by golly. Guess we can all rest easy now!
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Both sides agree on tough new fracking standards (Original Post) grntuscarora Mar 2013 OP
That is a hopeful development. I hope it works as promised. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #1
When I read the words grntuscarora Mar 2013 #3
I know enough about these environmental groups to know that they would not do this lightly. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #4
I did not realize grntuscarora Mar 2013 #5
"Sustainable Shale Development" is a bit oxymoronic... immoderate Mar 2013 #2
I care about the water. Shale? who cares. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #10
Environmentally Sustainable is what is meant. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #15
They're making a joke! immoderate Mar 2013 #16
Fracking is not safe. Champion Jack Mar 2013 #6
So both sides agree on lip service. What else is new? No sense paying valerief Mar 2013 #7
"Voluntary" = not worth shit. forestpath Mar 2013 #8
More from the Post-Gazette: Link inside: femmocrat Mar 2013 #9
Americans Against Fracking Denounces New Fracking “Standards” ramblin_dave Mar 2013 #11
Ayup. grntuscarora Mar 2013 #14
Nigeria november3rd Mar 2013 #12
Voluntary standards are expressions of good intentions daleo Mar 2013 #13

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
3. When I read the words
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:18 PM
Mar 2013

"voluntary" and "self-policing" in connection with the drilling industry, color me skeptical. And when the industry pay-off will be a "major expansion of drilling" in the Northeast (as if we don't have enough already), well, the word "gullible" pops into my head.

But, yes, it will be nice if it works as promised.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,560 posts)
4. I know enough about these environmental groups to know that they would not do this lightly.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:36 PM
Mar 2013

They are militant.

I trust their judgment.

I do not think they're being gullible, at all.

Time will tell, of course.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
5. I did not realize
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:45 PM
Mar 2013

the Heinz Foundation was militant.

Another concern I have is the pressure this will put on communities who would prefer no fracking at all---and places like NY, where a moratorium on fracking was recently put in place. The industry will use this like a cudgel, I fear.

But, I'll keep a happy thought

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
2. "Sustainable Shale Development" is a bit oxymoronic...
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:00 PM
Mar 2013

I mean the shale doesn't regenerate. At least not in pre-geologic time.

--imm

yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
15. Environmentally Sustainable is what is meant.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 04:06 PM
Mar 2013

Still may not be very easy to do, but certainly they need to try harder than they have been.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
16. They're making a joke!
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 04:17 PM
Mar 2013

Among other things, fracking is responsible for water pollution, global warming, and earthquakes! Hard to fit those things into "sustainable."

--imm

Champion Jack

(5,378 posts)
6. Fracking is not safe.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:55 PM
Mar 2013

Well casings leak, the fluids that come up are often radioactive , and the process takes huge amounts of water out of the natural cycle permanently .

valerief

(53,235 posts)
7. So both sides agree on lip service. What else is new? No sense paying
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 08:28 PM
Mar 2013

off my mortgage if the frackers are just going to blow up or sinkhole the Northeast, not to mention poison our water. More.

ramblin_dave

(1,546 posts)
11. Americans Against Fracking Denounces New Fracking “Standards”
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 10:52 AM
Mar 2013

Statement of Josh Fox on Behalf of Americans Against Fracking



Washington, D.C.– “The Center for Sustainable Shale Development, a new greenwashing group backed by the oil and gas industry, will not mitigate the economic, environmental and public health threats posed by hydraulic fracturing (fracking). That is because no amount of regulations can ever make fracking safe. It is an inherently dangerous practice.



more: http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/pressreleases/americans-against-fracking-denounces-new-fracking-standards/

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
14. Ayup.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:14 PM
Mar 2013

That's what I figured.

The industry is trying to divide and conquer environmental groups by tossing a bone that some will settle for.

 

november3rd

(1,113 posts)
12. Nigeria
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:18 AM
Mar 2013

Anybody who goes along with this should contact my cousin in Nigeria right away! He has five million dollars of inheritance, and he could get it out of the country with your help.

Plus, he promises to make it worth your while.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
13. Voluntary standards are expressions of good intentions
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:36 AM
Mar 2013

And there's a well-known road paved with good intentions.

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