Kasich signs HB 47, starts clock for opponents to shut down bill

[OhioChick]

Source: Cleveland.com

March 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Gov. John Kasich signed legislation Friday that would make it harder for Ohio voters to repeal laws. Now the clock ticks for opponents who could void the controversial bill.

A provision in Senate Bill 47 would set new limits on the number of days organizers have to mount petition drives and collect enough signatures to put a referendum on the ballot. Kasich's autograph on SB 47 began a 90-day countdown for groups to stage a petition drive to shut down the legislation.

The bill, sponsored by Sen. Bill Seitz of Cincinnati, would set a strict 100-day timetable for collecting signatures, effectively cutting more than two weeks from the existing process.

Under current law, organizers have 90 days to collect signatures before submitting a petition for repeal to the secretary of state for verification. An additional 10 days is given if the secretary of state finds the initial petition falls short of the required number of signatures.

Read more: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2013/03/kasich_signs_hb_47_starts_cloc.html#incart_river_default

[msongs]

1. one wonders why democrats allowed this guy to be elected governor nt

[CincyDem]

5. This one is pretty straight forward...

My sense is that in Ohio, Republicans from top to bottom know how to "toe the line" (or is that "tow the line", I never know).

At the same time, Democrats always seems to fail to find common ground until after losing the election with they can then agree that the winning Republican is a jerk.

Strickland wasn't perfect. He was a good guy and he got a fair number of things done. But, he had enough soft spots that a lot of Ohio Democrats wished they had another choice.

For me the more damning fracture was how we let Portman get the Senate seat. The establishment supported former Lt Gov. Lee Fischer who, again...was a nice enough guy but could have been my dad's grandfather. He was never a match for Portman. Never.

In the process, the Dem party put Jennifer Brunner on the back burner. That would be the SoS who shut down all of the r-wing activity in Ohio to steal 2008. She would have taken Portman to the well and, IMHO, she could have beaten him. Portman was beatable - just not by a guy who spent most of his time reaching for his walker and Depends.

On the State level, I'm always amazed by the Ohio Democratic party leadership. I'd like to see them have some semblance of a strategy beyond supporting the good ole' boys.

[OnyxCollie]

7. From what I've been told here on DU regarding Fisher,

it was "his turn."

[CincyDem]

8. Yep - and got forbid that we let the stronger candidate step up

No question, Brunner was a stronger candidate and she is smart/quick enough that she could have shredded Portman.

My recollection of the debate is that Fisher was a disaster. I'm really happy it was his turn, and I'm sure the Dem Party is proud of it's support for him - but we still have Portman in DC.

[graham4anything]

13. Which is why what Cory Booker did in New Jersey is perfect to avoid this happening again

Cory, who is a winner and will in the future keep winning, preempted lesser challengers and the one who was "destined&quot wrongly) to be the democratic candidate for senator after lautenberg retired, by announcing early, and forcing the hand, instead of waiting and the wrong candidate would have been given the early chance.

And staying home in 2010, was such a wonderful protest by those that were protesting, wasn't it?

SHEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
time and again they are proven wrong, yet they still make threats to do it again.
SHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

we cannot let history repeat itself in 2014

[Doctor_J]

16. time to stop spreading this lie

The "independents" and "moderates" stayed home in 2010, because they were promised change in 2008 and got almost none of it in between. Liberals and partisans showed up to vote as we always do, even though the Dem president and Congress did nothing to stop the right-wing juggernaut, and the change we were promised was nothing but campaign bullshit.

Once more - stop lying

[graham4anything]

17. You just agreed with my point, not disagreed. So it was no lie.

Without presidential coattails of President Obama, there was less of a vote.

The protest vote caused the change in election, along with those who did not realize that the off year elections are just as important as the presidential(something hopefully not avoided in 2014 and 2018).

Obama fans ARE liberals.

Have no idea what a progressive is, as they can be tea party or far left or far right.

Those that refused to vote for Jon Corzine, for instance, because of some stupid principal, like the Nader2000 voters, especially in NH are directly responsible for the Chris Chrstie winning, same nationwide.

Your last lines prove you would rather not vote for any democratic person to protest your Nadereque line of all being the same(which is the bullsheet of all bullsheets).

[No Vested Interest]

9. The year was 2010

A lot of people stayed home - remember?
All over the U.S.

[Omaha Steve]

2. OT: OP by one of my best friends on the DU

That will cost her $5.

[OhioChick]

4. Deposited in your tax-free offshore Cayman acct.

[happyslug]

3. I think this is a smart move by the Governor

By signing the law, he is forcing people who oppose it to get the needed signatures to reverse the law. Such a Reversal can NOT be overturn by the State legislature over ridding any veto by the Governor. It puts on the next ballot something that will get people out to vote, and while voting to repeal this law, vote for other Democrats. This is a get out the vote act, something the Governor is counting on.

[ButterflyBlood]

10. Uh, he's a Republican

Why would he want to get more Democrats out to vote?

[happyslug]

14. If that is the case, he is an idiot, why pass something that will get the other side out???

In a State like Ohio where the people can overturn what the Legislature had done, why pass something that will bring out the opposition?

When I wrote my comment, the posters had made the Governor sound like some sort of reluctant Democrat, I should have looked up the Governor myself instead of going by impression.

[blackspade]

11. The governor is a republican....

[blkmusclmachine]

12. 11 Dimensional Chess

[happyslug]

15. As I said to the other person who pointed this out to me, the Governor sounds like an idiot

Why change the law, that was used by the opposition to overturn what you wanted? You are now forcing the opposition to rally around that law as their best defense against your "Tyranny" (I am NOT saying the GOP government of Ohio is tyrannical, but by taking away one way for the opposition to defeat what you want, you give the impression of wanting power more then anything else).

People will turn out, who cares less about all the other elections occurring on the same day, and once in the booth will vote Democratic. Sounds like the Ohio GOP hates the idea they lost the last time this provision was used and now want to prevent it from ever being used again.

[Botany]

18. Kasich after getting his ass kicked on SB 5 promised to "play nice" w/the dems ...

... but in reality he and Husted have worked 24/7 to acquire and consolidate more power.

Kasich along w/ Synder, Walker, and Scott are ALEC/Koch Brother Governors and should
never be trusted.