Top donors threaten Dems: Do the right thing on guns, or no more money
Source: Washington Post
Top donors threaten Dems: Do the right thing on guns, or no more money
Posted by Greg Sargent on March 28, 2013 at 12:54 pm
With red state Democratic Senators remaining skittish about embracing Obamas gun proposals, at least two top Democratic donors are stepping forward and vowing to withhold any and all future financial contributions from any Democrats who dont support the centerpiece of Obamas plan: Expanded background checks.
Kenneth Lerer, a New York businessman who is chairman of Buzzfeed.com, and David Bohnett, a technology entrepreneur and philanthopist based in Los Angeles, are both major financial supporters of Democratic candidates, having each given scores of large contributions over the years. They are both key players in the political fundraising world and wield influence among other donors and fundraisers.
Neither will give another dime to any Senate Democrat who does not support expanded background checks, Im told and both will suggest to other donors that they do the same. The move underscores the rising importance of gun control as an issue in Democratic politics and the rising frustration in some Democratic circles with elected officials who continue to regard gun politics as a third rail, at a moment that presents a real opportunity to achieve serious reform, with a policy that enjoys near universal public support.
At some point you have to draw a line in the sand for me that time is now, Lerer told me in an interview. If candidates or officeholders cant support something like comprehensive and enforceable background checks, then I wouldnt think of giving them any money going forward.
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/03/28/top-donors-threaten-dems-do-the-right-thing-on-guns-or-no-more-money/
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)finally.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)MinneapolisMatt
(1,550 posts)About time!
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Where were these top donors on all the other issues the Democratic Leadership has wimped out on the last 4+ years?
Gitmo
Global Climate Change
This damn never ending war on terror
This damn never ending war on drugs
Healthcare
etc. etc. etc.
CincyDem
(6,347 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)That too!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)is the sound of money
hack89
(39,171 posts)my state has them and it is not an issue for gun owners.
IveWornAHundredPants
(237 posts)Not a one of them? What grand news.
hack89
(39,171 posts)there is no effort here to change the law - a truly none event.
IveWornAHundredPants
(237 posts)But it must be an issue with some gun owners somewhere. The question is why?
hack89
(39,171 posts)with so much hate and vitriol going both ways, there is a lot of mistrust on both sides.
thucythucy
(8,043 posts)Rhode Island out ranks Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota and Wyoming in terms of population.
As to why some gun owners have an issue with this, they'll have to speak up for themselves.
pscot
(21,024 posts)One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)Now 30yr police officers who can't get concealed carry permits are another story. May issue has become a, Are you politically connected or not.
premium
(3,731 posts)Overwhelmingly in support for UBC.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)It's such an obvious step that I'm shocked it hasn't passed.
TBF
(32,041 posts)but I have a lot of family that does hunt & that meat gets them through the winter. A lot of folks in the country do eat what they kill and it is probably more humane than many slaughter houses out there. If we can just get some controls on who is buying these things, put some $$ into mental health, and leave hunters alone we should be able to come to some sort of compromise here.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)I'd bet real money that anyone that lives off of wild game could raise as much food for less money than they have invested in their 'hunting operation'.
Not that I'm against hunting, I just doubt it's cost effectiveness as a way to put food on your family when compared with raising chickens and gardening.
I'm sure some hunters do it cost effectively, but what I see in the Natural State looks like a cash cow for everyone involved in anything to do with 'outdoor sports' except the actual hunting part. It just looks like an expensive hobby to me.
TBF
(32,041 posts)It's not the cost - for most folks I know it's the sport and the fact that they like the meat.
Personally not my thing, and I would love a ban on assault rifles. But at the very least we ought to be able to register everyone. Right now you can buy a deadly weapon more easily than you can obtain Sudafed in your pharmacy.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)For what some of these people have invested just in camouflage garb.
Personally, I think deer meat is too gamey. Again, I don't really have anything against hunting; my family has always hunted (my grandmother who died last fall hunted until the very end) it's the 'saves money' argument that I'm questioning.
If these people love to wear camoflage so much, why didn't they join the military? Same thing with assault rifles; if they want to play with assault rifles, why didn't they join the military. I didn't think either one of them were that much fun personally.
premium
(3,731 posts)what they don't support is the AWB and mag. limits. That's why Sen. Reid separated Sen. Feinstein's AWB and mag. limit from the main bill.
WinniSkipper
(363 posts)they don't care about magazine limits either. that should go w/ UBC in the "pass" column.
The mag ban had no impact before and won't again - it's a bargaining chip
The AWB is the issue
premium
(3,731 posts)Add the mag. limit to the main bill and I think it would pass, the AWB? Definitely not.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)that it has to come to this on an issue like fa-chrissakes background checks, which almost 90% of the country vigorously supports.
FUCK THESE FUCKING PEOPLE.
God DAMN it.
According to CBS and CNN more than half of Americans actually dont want any new gun laws.
47% do
PSPS
(13,588 posts)Background checks are supported by overwhelming majorities in every conceivable group -- even republican voters.
Enjoy your pizza.
sheshe2
(83,720 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)control measures. (That includes Harry Reid.) I hope they don't punish ALL Democrats by not suppoting the DCCC and the DSCC.
BrainDrain
(244 posts)When 20 dead kids and six dead teachers are not enough to get some politicians on board with universal background checks, but the threat of no money does??????
Makes me wanna puke.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)Beat, whip, abuse Blue Dogs all day long for all I care. They are useless.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)This seems like a hollow threat. What are those donors going to do if they don't get their way? Create a third party dedicated to gun control?
Politicians listen to their donors, but they also have to listen to their constituents.
Timbuk3
(872 posts)Thanks for posting this.
MoclipsHumptulips
(59 posts)Fuck the gun nuts, they are all about right wing bullshit.
Period.
NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)use their bucks going after incumbent Repugs, both Senate and House on the same issue... guns.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)*Jobs Programs, Jobs Programs, Jobs Programs, Jobs Programs, Jobs Programs, Jobs Programs
*Raising Taxes on The RICH (Pre-Reagan)
*Making EFCA the Law of the Land
*Labeling GMO foods
*Renegotiate NAFTA (End "Free Trade" and admit it was a scam)
*Breaking Up the Too Big to Fails
*Applying Fair Competition Regulations (Sherman Act) to protect Mom & Pop Businesses (Locally Owned)
from Interstate Big Boxes like Wal-Mart
*National Publicly Owned Government Administered Health Insurance
*Banning For Profit Private Prisons
*Ending the Failed Drug War
*Cutting Military Spending
*Repealing the Patriot Act
*Closing Gitmo and every other secret Prison for "terrorists"
*Ending the Drone Bombings
*Restoring the 4th Amendment
*Auditing the FED
*Jailing Wall Street Criminals
*Jailing War Criminals
*End funding of "Private Universities,
re-direct that funding to Public Universities for Universal Free Higher Education
There are more, but you get the picture.
Timbuk3
(872 posts)Now big money is in control of the Democratic party, and "liberals" are celebrating it.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Acknowledging reality doesn't mean we celebrate it.
We are CELEBRATING (eye roll) the fact the donor organizing folk are wielding the stick.
If you can't get donations, but your primary challenger can ... and these people "threatening" to withhold support are "proven big money."
It is time for "listening ears" if they are wise.
frylock
(34,825 posts)now?!! you been in a coma or something?