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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:00 AM Mar 2013

Utah Gun Lobbyist Has AR-15 Stolen From His Car

Source: TPM

TOM KLUDT 9:40 AM EDT, FRIDAY MARCH 29, 2013

A prominent Utah gun lobbyist fell victim to a robbery earlier this week when his AR-15 was stolen from his vehicle, the Salt Lake City Tribune reported.

Clark Aposhian, chairman of the Utah Shooting Sports Council, said his car was locked and parked outside his home on Wednesday, with his weapon secured in a case in the backseat. By Thursday morning, the AR-15 was nowhere to be found. Investigators still have no leads on the missing weapon.

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Link to full Salt Lake City Tribune report
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56076172-78/vehicle-assault-police-rifle.html.csp
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Utah Gun Lobbyist Has AR-15 Stolen From His Car (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2013 OP
The law needs to be clear. Horse with no Name Mar 2013 #1
Gun Saying liberalmike27 Mar 2013 #18
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #31
Did you really just say it was okay for a woman to be raped if a man finds her Horse with no Name Mar 2013 #32
If only the gun had been armed, this never would have happened. Orrex Mar 2013 #2
Or the car. It's the car's fault. Because you know, guns don't......... Squinch Mar 2013 #27
"....his car was locked and parked outside his home vduhr Mar 2013 #3
Lobbyist Has AR-15 Stolen From His Car Flashmann Mar 2013 #4
!!!! BumRushDaShow Mar 2013 #5
Good points. ARs might as well be made of gold for the prices they're getting now Blandocyte Mar 2013 #7
This, at least, is a silver lining to the idiocy. Soon they'll all be bankrupt. Squinch Mar 2013 #28
Yes Ahpook Mar 2013 #8
Depends . . . caseymoz Mar 2013 #12
does he always do stupid things like this? Or does he always do corrupt things like that? Flashmann Mar 2013 #24
I've always been curious about that... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #15
BING-effen-O! StepnKretchit Mar 2013 #23
At that point, the gun was literally in the hands of a criminal. Not good. Blandocyte Mar 2013 #6
Another example of a legal gun becoming illegal....... Historic NY Mar 2013 #20
Perhaps he should find a more suitable source of employment in the firearms industry. bluedigger Mar 2013 #9
Can't cure stupid. mbperrin Mar 2013 #10
Never leave anything in a case/box/package/bag in plain site in your car. Ash_F Mar 2013 #11
Leaving a gun on a back seat is asking for it to be stolen. He is not smart enough appleannie1 Mar 2013 #13
Stupid is as Stupid does. Ford_Prefect Mar 2013 #14
And in this case, it's likely that Stupid kills. Squinch Mar 2013 #29
i don't leave anything lying around in my car for fear of inviting a break in.. frylock Mar 2013 #16
Someone who doesn't put their guns in a secure safe at night. At home. mwooldri Mar 2013 #17
Toss our current Drug Czar in there too. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #19
The problem is not gun 'control', it is GUNS. vkkv Mar 2013 #21
I hope he wasn't insured. jerseyjack Mar 2013 #22
Unpossible. Guns are impervious to mischief. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #25
DU-U-U-UH!!! nt Deep13 Mar 2013 #26
He maybe sold it upaloopa Mar 2013 #30
400lb gun safes in cars for safe transport. Paulie Mar 2013 #33
His gun was his insurance that he wouldn't be robbed . olddots Mar 2013 #34

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
18. Gun Saying
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:02 PM
Mar 2013

Buying a gun makes for just another easy thing for the burglar to steal. Same thing here.

It's funny how many people don't understand that a $1200 thing (anything, laptop, whatever) might be something a thief would break a window for and steal.

Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #1)

vduhr

(603 posts)
3. "....his car was locked and parked outside his home
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:25 AM
Mar 2013

on Wednesday, with his weapon secured in a case in the backseat. By Thursday morning, the AR-15 was nowhere to be found."

Oh for God's sake! He left the gun on the back seat, in his car, which was parked outside, overnight?!

Yup, responsible gun ownership strikes again.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
4. Lobbyist Has AR-15 Stolen From His Car
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:27 AM
Mar 2013

First off I have to wonder just HOW a supposedly responsible adult would leave a military grade weapon,if not a machine gun laying,in open sight,on the back seat of a car,EVEN if the car is locked and EVEN if it's in a case.

Secondly,being a cynic and considering that as a gun lobbyist/gun NUT,would this guy have SOLD that rifle to someone who couldn't legally buy one,then gin up a theft tale to cover his own ass?

Blandocyte

(1,231 posts)
7. Good points. ARs might as well be made of gold for the prices they're getting now
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:40 AM
Mar 2013

and I'm talking the prices that just the people who are legally allowed to get one will pay.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
8. Yes
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:43 AM
Mar 2013

These people can't be more than 10 feet from those fucking things to begin with. We are supposed to trust he left it in a car?

BS

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
12. Depends . . .
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:57 AM
Mar 2013

. . . does he always do stupid things like this? Or does he always do corrupt things like that? If he does both, he'll get caught doing something sooner or later.

It sounds like a hard mistake to make. AR-15 isn't what you take out to thwart a carjacking. Forgetting it overnight is like forgetting you're driving with a gold bar in your back seat. I'm certain the police probably know this, too, however.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
24. does he always do stupid things like this? Or does he always do corrupt things like that?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:49 PM
Mar 2013

I really don't mean to sound facetious,though I suspect it's unavoidable.

I think the fact that this guy is a GUN lobbyist,on its own,strongly suggests the answer to both questions is a very loud yes.

Perhaps not stupid and corrupt things like THIS,but stupid and corrupt things?Oh hell yes!

Blandocyte

(1,231 posts)
6. At that point, the gun was literally in the hands of a criminal. Not good.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:37 AM
Mar 2013

If we make it very difficult to get guns and it reduces the number of guns manufactured and/or sold there will be fewer guns coming into the possession of criminals. Short of a total ban, we need to at least get some major speed bumps into the system to slow the production and sale of guns.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
20. Another example of a legal gun becoming illegal.......
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:12 PM
Mar 2013

NRA always complains about enforcement of laws perhaps a new law directed at morons is necessary...

Criminals don't usually buy crap guns on the street but they sure do like to steal them.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
9. Perhaps he should find a more suitable source of employment in the firearms industry.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:49 AM
Mar 2013

His advocacy skills as a lobbyist are questionable.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
10. Can't cure stupid.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:53 AM
Mar 2013

But the NRA and other gun nuts can continue to arm criminals at no charge to the criminal.

Yes, if a crime is committed with this gun, this "man" needs to be charged.

Right now, he just needs a few blows to the head. MIGHT get something working.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
11. Never leave anything in a case/box/package/bag in plain site in your car.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:56 AM
Mar 2013

Especially not a gun.

Experienced thieves always pick out the item before smashing the window as a rule, because they want to minimize the window in which they can be spotted. They can't be on the lookout if they have their nose in a car rummaging around. They rather gamble on not knowing what is in the parcel and that it might be worthless than to get caught. If they can't see anything, they won't break it.

Just some general advice.

Ford_Prefect

(7,886 posts)
14. Stupid is as Stupid does.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:11 AM
Mar 2013

Ignorance of the law is no excuse but Stupid must be.

He left it in plain sight when most people would have at least put it in the trunk.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
16. i don't leave anything lying around in my car for fear of inviting a break in..
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:24 AM
Mar 2013

what kind of stupid mutherfucker leaves a rifle lying exposed in the backseat of his car?!

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
17. Someone who doesn't put their guns in a secure safe at night. At home.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:41 AM
Mar 2013

As for leaving stuff lying around in the car for fear of inviting a break in??? Just get some kids and eat too much fast food via drive-through windows. Inevitably your vehicle will look like a trashcan inside, and someone wanting to steal something from inside will definitely be turned off. Of course the same can be said of having a perfectly clean interior. But that's off topic.

The guy leaving his gun around should be subject to what his guns should have been subject to. A little bit locked up for a while. - that is of course just my opinion.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
19. Toss our current Drug Czar in there too.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:10 PM
Mar 2013

Gil Kerlikowske's service pistol has not yet been found. Been several years since it was stolen out of his car.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
21. The problem is not gun 'control', it is GUNS.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:38 PM
Mar 2013

The problem is not gun 'control', it is GUNS.

The controlling of or the lack of controlling guns isn't what is killing people.

Guns are killing people.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
33. 400lb gun safes in cars for safe transport.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 09:38 PM
Mar 2013

Then they (guns inside locked safe) can be in plain sight in the back seat.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
34. His gun was his insurance that he wouldn't be robbed .
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:56 PM
Mar 2013

his god Wayne will buy him a new shiny one .

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