Obama prods liberals to give-and-take on Senate immigration bill
Source: Washington Post
President Obama is warning liberal supporters that their push to make changes in a comprehensive immigration bill could jeopardize the strategy of Senate leaders, who are aiming to win up to 70 votes for the measure.
While much of Washington has focused on objections from Republicans, Obama and other Democrats have mounted a behind-the-scenes campaign in recent days aimed at mollifying advocates, who argue that an 844-page Senate bill excludes too many illegal immigrants and makes it too hard for the rest to become citizens.
The efforts underscore the perilous path ahead for a comprehensive immigration deal, which is one of Obamas top agenda items for his second term but faces mounting criticism from those on both the left and right.
In a private meeting with a dozen Latino leaders at the White House this week, Obama emphasized that securing a large margin in the Senate is crucial to putting pressure on House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) to accept the general framework of the legislation.
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L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Whatever, Mr. President. You win. I concede to you. If I don't, I am a person who wants a pony that farts glitter and I deserve every bad thing that happens. If you succeed, it's my fault for my inaction. If you fail, it's my fault for my disloyalty. Good luck! I'm pulling for you. Or something.
I love waking up in the morning and remembering that absolutely everything is in my power and is my fault. But frankly I am fresh out of ideas and my energy pack's running a bit low. Somebody, please fill in for me while I recharge. Peace y'all.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)But it's my fault for not doing it with enough fervor.
It's still our fault. By constantly trying to make the president act like a dem, we're undermining him, Don't you know.
tblue
(16,350 posts)and remembering that I am responsible for everything the president does or doesn't do.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)...if the polls are open, I'm there voting the Democratic ticket. I think that meme is over-used. We sure did reelect him, didn't we?
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Alamuti Lotus
(3,093 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)and if the Washington Post doesn't like it, then the Post don't like it. No biggie.
msongs
(67,395 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)Because we are naughty, he musteth spanketh us. We have it coming.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Obamas strategy represents a calculated bet that throwing his full support behind a bipartisan proposal crafted by four Democrats and four Republicans is the surest way to avoid the pitfalls that have doomed his initiatives on gun control and the budget. As the White House prepares to confront fierce opposition from conservatives, the administrations ability to galvanize support among liberals represents a tricky, but particularly critical, task.
The Senates proposal faces deep uncertainty in the Republican-controlled House, where conservatives are mounting opposition to the 13-year path to citizenship for undocumented workers. Some Republicans, including House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (Va.), have called for votes on smaller, piecemeal bills, a tactic that advocates fear would kill any chance of a sweeping overhaul.
White House officials and their Senate allies hope to win a big enough majority in that chamber to leave Boehner with little choice but to accept a comprehensive framework. Under this scenario, Republican leaders eager to broaden the partys appeal to Latino voters in the wake of Obamas reelection last fall would feel compelled to put the Senate bill up for a vote, likely passing with support from Democrats and centrist Republicans.
Looks like most of the republican leadership wants to at least give the appearance of broadening "the partys appeal to Latino voters in the wake of Obamas reelection last fall". Their base, however, is still hopping mad about immigration reform.
If I put partisan politics over good policy (now there's a 'republican' approach to a national problem), a republican 'win' on immigration reform by killing it would further drive Hispanics away from their party and help us in the future. Of course that scenario leaves millions of highly exploitable workers untouched unless they do a "Mitt" and self-deport. And if they don't, certain employers will thank the republican base for leaving their workforce right where it is.
tblue
(16,350 posts)for your blockquote.
pampango
(24,692 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)the man is a huge disaster.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)So I can brag about how I achieved bipartisan immigration reform.
ReRe
(10,597 posts).... I wish he would resign and join the Republican Party. It's not that we are "Libruls'", it's that he's not a Democrat.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Has bought him a LOT if mileage. We've been had.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)You get "spineless" Democrats (like having a "D" behind your name gives you a birth defect) who cave to Repugs at every turn. It is all an act played to us as reality and we soak it up and take the bait. We need campaign finance reform before we can truly expect to see democracy in action. What we have now is Facism! They OWN Obama, the House, Senate, the Courts, and the media and they will not give up control of this country willingly! If you think the blow back from OWS was bad, any strong call for CCFR (COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM) will start a war b/w the corporations and the 1% vs. we the people! That is where the real fight would be, all of this fighting over issues one at a time like immigration reform, gun restrictions, gay marriage... will all be rigged b/c the politicians all play for the same team! It is a performance much like the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals where it appears to be a legitimate contest, but you know who will win b/c it is NOT A REAL CONTEST!!!!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I'm not kidding - really
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014471755
Let it not be said he's completely impotent.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)ANY conservative to be prodded into 'give and take'.
24601
(3,959 posts)be everything to everybody, so let's call it off until later - perhaps in another 40 years.
But History doesn't seem to be our strongest class.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)with the right wing Senate, so that he can hope Boner goes along with it. The Kasparov of the Potomac strikes again.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)looks like 13 years and no provisions for the many unpapered people who are small business owners.?