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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:25 AM May 2013

Sen. Corker: I Think We’ll Be Arming Syrian Rebels ‘Shortly’

Source: TPM

IGOR BOBIC 10:49 AM EDT, TUESDAY MAY 7, 2013

Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN), the ranking member on the Senate Foreign Relations committee who notably golfed with President Barack Obama on Monday, believes the United States will soon be arming the Syrian opposition.

"I do think we'll be arming the opposition shortly," he said Tuesday on "CBS This Morning." "We're doing a lot more on the ground than really is known but we do have to change the equation. ... The moderate opposition groups we support are not as good at fighting, they're not as good at delivering humanitarian aid."

Corker joined Sens. Mark Udall (D-CO) and Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) -- who shot a memorable hole-in-one -- on the links with Obama at Andrews Air Force base in Washington. Chambliss added later that the four spoke "a little bit" about the situation in Syria.

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Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/sen-corker-i-think-well-be-arming-syrian



Link to CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57583191/sen-corker-on-syria-u.s-will-be-arming-the-rebels-soon/
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Sen. Corker: I Think We’ll Be Arming Syrian Rebels ‘Shortly’ (Original Post) DonViejo May 2013 OP
We should not do this leftynyc May 2013 #1
Paying for it how? All anti-debtors tell me. sinkingfeeling May 2013 #2
This will be our Afghanistan. And I mean how Afghanistan was for Russia in the 80s. onehandle May 2013 #3
Ding ding ding . . . we have a winner! ^^^ THIS ^^^ - eom fleur-de-lisa May 2013 #5
Afghanistan is our Afghanistan. We've been bleeding blood and money there for a decade. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #10
Why can't we ever just stay out of things? bunnies May 2013 #4
So you want to arm Al Qaeda, Corker? SunSeeker May 2013 #6
Exactly. nt onehandle May 2013 #8
Beat Me to It. 4Q2u2 May 2013 #11
I love transparency "We're doing a lot more on the ground than really is known" jakeXT May 2013 #7
I'd like to see what's in this guys "portfolio"... xtraxritical May 2013 #9
A republican wants us to spend money arming rebels? abelenkpe May 2013 #12
I think we'll be suffering from blowback shortly nt eissa May 2013 #13
Liberals arguing that the U.S. should give weapons to Syrian rebels underestimate Assad's power Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #14
Now that we are partnering with Al Queda... peace13 May 2013 #15
Sen. Corker: I Think We’ll Be Arming Syrian Rebels ‘Shortly’ Caeser67 May 2013 #16
We're already paying the CIA to "broker" weapons deals for the rebels with other countries magellan May 2013 #17
And why is Corker even mentioning this to the press? How dare he. Senators don't reveal okaawhatever May 2013 #18
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
1. We should not do this
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:28 AM
May 2013

There may very well be moderate opposition groups but there is also hardline fundamentalist asshole groups and finding the difference will be near impossible. We should stay out of it.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. This will be our Afghanistan. And I mean how Afghanistan was for Russia in the 80s.
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:30 AM
May 2013

There is no win in this whatsoever.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
10. Afghanistan is our Afghanistan. We've been bleeding blood and money there for a decade.
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:39 PM
May 2013

And our invasion and occupation of Iraq turned out so well, too.

Why not go for the trifecta?

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
4. Why can't we ever just stay out of things?
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:36 AM
May 2013

Why does it seem like its never an option? All we do is fight wars, arm people for wars, give money for wars...
Enough already!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
6. So you want to arm Al Qaeda, Corker?
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:37 AM
May 2013

Because this is a civil war between Al Qaeda on the side of the rebels and Hezbollah on the side of the Syrian government. Heads they win, tails we lose.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
11. Beat Me to It.
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:41 PM
May 2013

There is a bright side possibly. Who ever votes to arm the Syrian Rebels will be assisting a Terrorist Org, and Old Shrub made it unlawful. So maybe we can get Corker a one way ticket to GITMO.

Boy, some of the people speaking for our Foreign Policy are just headache inducing. Just stay the Hell out of all of it, them killing each other without our help or troops is the best solution.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
7. I love transparency "We're doing a lot more on the ground than really is known"
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:41 AM
May 2013

Doing it officially or through proxies like Qatar or Saudi Arabia, does it matter?

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
12. A republican wants us to spend money arming rebels?
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:43 PM
May 2013

Bet he's all for austerity here.

If we're so broke we have to let our elderly, poor and disabled go without needed programs for food how do we have money to arm rebels overseas and why does that take priority over our own citizens?

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
14. Liberals arguing that the U.S. should give weapons to Syrian rebels underestimate Assad's power
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:14 PM
May 2013


This article is a little more than one year old - but I think it is still very relevant. I strongly recommend reading this article in salon.com by Gary Kamiya:

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/13/dont_arm_syrias_rebels/singleton/


snips:

This is not a knee-jerk left-wing response. It has nothing to do with Iraq. Nor does it have anything to do with the proxy war between the U.S. and its allies and Iran and its allies. It is not driven by pacifism or opposition to all war. All U.S. wars are not axiomatically foolish, evil or driven by brutal self-interest (although most of them since World War II have been). The airstrikes on Kosovo and the Libya campaign were justified (although the jury is still out on the latter intervention). If arming the Syrian opposition would result in fewer deaths and a faster transition to a peaceful, open, democratic society, we should arm them.

That analysis has been provided by a number of in-depth reports, most notably a new study by the International Crisis Group, as well as the excellent on-the-ground reporting of Nir Rosen for Al-Jazeera. The bottom line is simple. The war has become a zero-sum game for Assad. If he loses, he dies. But the only way he can lose is if he is abandoned by his crucial external patron, Russia, which is extremely unlikely to happen absent some slaughter so egregious that Moscow feels it has to cut ties with him. Assad has sufficient domestic support to hold on for a long time, and a huge army that is not likely to defect en masse. Under these circumstances, giving arms to the rebels, however much it may make conscience-stricken Western observers feel better, will simply make the civil war much bloodier and its outcome even more chaotic and dangerous.

The key point concerns Assad’s domestic support. Contrary to the widely held belief that most Syrians support the opposition and are opposed to the Assad regime, Syrians are in fact deeply divided. The country’s minorities – the ruling Alawites, Christians and Druze – tend to support the regime, if only because they fear what will follow its downfall. (The grocery on my corner in San Francisco is owned by a Christian Syrian from a village outside Damascus. When I asked him what he thought about what was going on in his country, he said, “It’s not like what you see on TV. Assad is a nice guy. He’s trying to do the right thing.”) As Rosen makes clear, Syria’s ruling Alawite minority is the key to Assad’s survival: Absent an outside invasion, the regime will not fall unless the Alawites turn on it. But the Alawites fear reprisals if the Sunni-dominated opposition, some of whose members have threatened to “exterminate the Alawites,” defeats the Assad regime. The fear of a sectarian war, exacerbated by the murky and incoherent nature of the opposition, means that the minorities are unlikely to join the opposition in large numbers.

...

Our national instinct is to come riding to the rescue. It goes against our character to simply sit on our hands. Our sincere, naive and self-centered belief that America can fix everything, and our equally sincere, naive and self-centered belief that moral outrage justifies intervention, is a powerful tide, pulling us toward getting directly involved in Syria’s civil war.

But in the real world, we cannot always come riding to the rescue. Sometimes, we have no choice but to watch tragedy unfold, because anything we do will create an even bigger tragedy.

read full article:


http://www.salon.com/2012/04/13/dont_arm_syrias_rebels/singleton/
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
15. Now that we are partnering with Al Queda...
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:14 PM
May 2013

May we please do away with the Patriot Act? Hey, we're all business partners now!

Caeser67

(156 posts)
16. Sen. Corker: I Think We’ll Be Arming Syrian Rebels ‘Shortly’
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:16 PM
May 2013

And Israel will be shooting them later.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
17. We're already paying the CIA to "broker" weapons deals for the rebels with other countries
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:24 PM
May 2013

...and provide logistical support. It'll be so much easier when we're arming the rebels, including the islamists, ourselves.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
18. And why is Corker even mentioning this to the press? How dare he. Senators don't reveal
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:33 PM
May 2013

what our plan on the ground is. Smells like throwing us under the bus to me. To suggest we will be arming rebels or that we're doing more on the ground than is known. Plleeaassse. That's a no win comment if ever i've heard one.

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