Internet celeb sought in New Jersey murder
Source: ABC News
HADDONFIELD, N.J. - May 16, 2013 (WPVI) -- A man known on the internet as "Kai the Hatchet Wielding Hitchhiker" is now being sought for the murder of a man in New Jersey.
The suspect is identified as Caleb Lawrence McGillvary, a 34-year-old who is well known on Facebook and YouTube.
An arrest warrant has been issued for McGillvary in the homicide of Joseph Galfy, Jr. in Clark, New Jersey, WABC-TV in New York reported.
He was last seen at a light rail station in the Haddonfield, New Jersey area, said Union County Prosecutor Theodore J. Romankow. McGillvary is considered to be armed and dangerous.
Read more: http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=9105018
Uh oh...
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)He seemed a bit...off.
They_Live
(3,231 posts)Last edited Thu May 16, 2013, 05:38 PM - Edit history (1)
about the original Kai story as well. Did he kill that "crazy driver", or just injure him?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He definitely didn't kill him, the man had to stand trial for hitting the utility driver with his car.
The witnesses didn't think he'd done anything wrong, and he wasn't held by the police. He seemed a bit high strung, and was cycling from one mood to the other.
But the guy that he assaulted in Fresno apologized for what he did to the utility worker and Kai wasn't held for assault. It was strange to me that the police let him go, after he said he had scars on his hand from attacking another man earlier with the hatchet. Was allowed to go on his way that time.
To hit someone with a hatchet in the head is usually lethal, so why no one talked to him about that was weird. And this guy he's being charged with killing, a 73 year old attorney? Really?
I don't understand how he got all the way to NJ, there was a lot going on in his life that we'll never know, probably. Traveling across country in the way that he was, could be considered to be reckless. Going into a stranger's house for the night is also dangerous. JMHO.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Not Kai.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Not Kai! It can't be true.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I hope this isn't true.
One of the comments on that abc site quotes Kai's facebook status with an account of how the victim had raped him. Can anyone who has a Facebook account confirm that this is actually on Kai's facebook page? I don't know what his facebook account is, and don't do facebook anyway, but I am curious as to whether this is actually a claim Kai is making.
Here's the comment:
Kai's Facebook status:
what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their fuckin load in you? what would you do?
gvstn
(2,805 posts)There are consistent postings every few days that look authentic.
That post was made Tuesday so it may be real.
I don't think you have to be signed i to see it.
https://www.facebook.com/yodhehwawheh
They_Live
(3,231 posts)fyi.
gvstn
(2,805 posts)Maybe you do have to be signed in?
Here is a screencap:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?6ocp3wxosr24bb3 (267kb)
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?t1j9q84wn9hf04l (Full page 2.4mb; It will enlarge and be readable in you photo viewer or drag the downloaded file into FF and it will display there and can be enlarged with a click.)
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Yes that looks very legitimate. He is claiming to have been raped. Sad that he probably ruined any chance he had at a future by going all Maxwell's silver hammer on the guy, but I can see, in his situation, how going to the authorities probably wasn't an acceptable option for him. Bummer all the way around. If this is indeed what happened, I wish him well.
gvstn
(2,805 posts)He did seem slightly "off" in the original interview. When he was talking about hitting the guy with the hatchet he really didn't seem to make the mental connections that he could have killed him. Sort of like a young kid that really doesn't empathize with animals. It struck me back then and I am sad it came to this. His basic philosophy of life was relaxed but I think he has an edge to his personality or a temper.
If I'm not mistaken he said back then that he had been raped in the past as an explanation as to why he carried the hatchet. Maybe it was as simple as he had promised himself he would never let it happen again and was on automatic pilot following his preconceived escape/revenge plan? He obviously interacts with strangers all the time and doesn't seem to have many detractors so I tend to believe some type of assault happened. But the victim was 73 years old, he could have called the cops on him rather than killing him.
I live in the tri-state area, if I see him I don't think I'll be letting him sleep on my couch.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...one does not typically go on the lam.
As you note, the proper response to the claimed situation is to call the police and report a crime, and not take the law into one's own hands. This is not even claimed to be an act of self-defense, but one of retribution.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)Kai seemed like a bit of a grafter to me when I first saw his video after the first hatchet job.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)He meets a 73 year old gay man in Time Square and goes home with him for what? Tea and crumpets?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Or so is claimed.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)... who went on the lam after the killing.
I'm sure there will be a lot of "claims" made by the defendant.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)looks like they are adding more info at the links. The one I posted has a lot more on it now. As more info comes out, we will learn more.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)gay man to get drugged and raped? Seriously? This is what you think? If a young guy goes home with a 73 yr old gay man and goes home with him, if he's drugged and raped he has no defense, because after all he did go home with him?
Turborama
(22,109 posts)Caleb Kai Lawrence Yodhehwawheh
Tuesday
what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their fuckin load in you? what would you do?
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Caleb Kai Lawrence Yodhehwawheh raped for social justice woo fuckin hoo
Wednesday at 1:53am · Like
Terry Ratliff Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the SHIT out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?
Wednesday at 1:55am via mobile · Like · 48
Shiela Marie Barnhill I would get the fuck out of there and go take care of business. Why do you ask?
Wednesday at 1:55am · Edited · Like · 8
Glenn Hinton I'd start with a good rinse.
Wednesday at 2:27am via mobile · Like · 46
Daniel Peterson I would get on Facebook and ask what people would do if it happened to them... ; )
Wednesday at 2:48am via mobile · Like · 67
Erin Wagner Well Im glad you didn't wake up like that or else My roommates would have some explaining to do.
Wednesday at 3:32am via mobile · Like · 7
Caleb Kai Lawrence Yodhehwawheh thanks again erin.
Wednesday at 4:34am via mobile · Like · 5
Caleb Kai Lawrence Yodhehwawheh but how would that be explainable anyways?
Wednesday at 4:42am via mobile · Like · 6
Terry Ratliff Lol.. U got me
Wednesday at 4:43am via mobile · Like · 2
Caleb Kai Lawrence Yodhehwawheh i like your idea terry
Wednesday at 4:44am via mobile · Like · 13
Terry Ratliff I sent u another vid if u need it bro
Wednesday at 4:47am via mobile · Like · 1
Caleb Beatty thats alot worce than waking up an lookin n the mirror to find a dick drawed on ur face. ha
Wednesday at 4:58am · Like
Nikki Shure You have been sexually assaulted. It depends, if you want the guy to pay, first, don't get rid of the come, let it dry on your face, Go to an ER indicate you have been sexually assaulted. If they don't have a procedure (they should swab it and YOU should indicate that some be put in a container for you and labeled by THEM and YOU save that labeled container for DNA). Then if they don't call the police, indicate you have to and file a police report. Make sure you tell the police to put in that report that specimen of the come on your face has been taken and placed in a labeled container by the hospital staff. Also, while in the ER find out what your blood labs indicate. The metallic issue, could be a number of things. Metallic can come from a number of things, the heme molecule found in blood can give that off but there are a number of non-body chemicals that may give off that metallic taste. DON'T clean your mouth so they can take a swab of that in case. Make sure you share the symptoms you experienced. Stay focused look at them in the eyes steadfastly.
Wednesday at 10:16am · Like · 51
Christian Worzalla Does this have anything to do with today's news?'
7 hours ago via mobile · Like · 45
Nicole Elias http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/16/internet-celebrity-kai-reportedly-wanted-in-elderly-man-murder/?test=latestnews
7 hours ago · Like · 14
Haiku Funkplus Im so sorry man, I wish you the best of luck in escaping the authorities. If thats what happened, you had every right to take that fucker out.
7 hours ago · Like · 62
Terry Ratliff Fuck man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shit
7 hours ago via mobile · Like · 184
Jami Smith Haggerty holy crap!
7 hours ago · Like · 3
Terry Ratliff Was looking forward to producing that song with ya too.. I hope everything turns out as good as it can for ya in the end of this bro.. It's unfortunate as fuck!
6 hours ago via mobile · Like · 15
Jason Watson Figure out who to pay, and keep the party going?
6 hours ago · Like · 19
Terry Ratliff How me and Kai became friends:
4 hours ago · Like · 8
Winston Wolf I only have one question. How does the same person keep getting involved in situations that call for murder? Regardless of whether you think he's right or wrong, what's up?
2 hours ago via mobile · Like · 11
Ari Korn wtf....
2 hours ago · Like · 1
Terry Ratliff well Kai has been arrested... so he's gonna need some help with his legal fees. feel free to donate to the fundraiser. If this offends you, then disregard this post. I will be creating a page to host this fundraiser in a few, and will post the link when its up. Thanks
about an hour ago · Like · 1
Terry Ratliff if you are baffled by the goal $ ammount, feel free to notice that his bail is set at $3 million
about an hour ago · Like
Ari Korn this shit is crazy
about an hour ago · Like
Shelly Fitzgerald i really wish i could offer financial support, but I'm strapped to the gills.........i do send love and prayers, tho...........i'm having a hard time seeing Kai as a cold-blooded killer, ...........i hope they really listen to him and do a proper investigation............
about an hour ago · Like · 1
Sarah Cascio He's no killer. As you can see from his past, he does what he believes is right & obviously someone harmed him.
about an hour ago · Like · 9
Garth CultiVader https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151378066061076&set=a.10151048364436076.425893.56479926075&type=1&theater
about an hour ago · Like · 2
Terry Ratliff Sounds like a nice thing to say Ms. Shelly.. Feel free to like the page, and/or share the word will help. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kai-the-Hitchhiker-Legal-Support-Page/131972146999628?ref=hl
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)But according to the fb timeline, Ratliff didn't post his "suggestion" until Wednesday (if I'm reading things correctly).
I suspect Ratliff was making a reference to the incident which brought Caleb into the spotlight to begin with.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)I was on my phone and didn't go to the full article as my phone couldn't handle the ABC page. On my laptop now and those comments were after the event, if it happened on Monday.
Lucky for Terry, otherwise he would be an accessory.
ETA: BTW the FB timeline I posted is EST +12 due to my location.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)It's a good reminder about taking time to consider the potential consequences of off-the-cuff remarks, even if this particular one was made after the fact.
The guy has a history of using an ax as a weapon. I'd hate to be the one responsible for planting that seed, had it been done prior to the murder. Caleb's comment about liking Ratliff's idea would only have made it worse for him.
Having said all that, I wonder if Ratliff would really have been liable for prosecution had he made the comment prior to the murder?
gvstn
(2,805 posts)also... When he replied to my comment on this popular post and said "I like your idea Terry." I also had just sent him this email, in which i was torn if he was replying to that instead.. i have the proof in my outbox. He couldve been telling me that he LIKES THIS IDEA, which is why he was coming to GA to record. HERE:
"Sorry it took so long bro.. Ive been busy with a tattoo/ recording party yesterday and working on music all weekend. I'll get you a couple more youtube today... Hey on another note, I have this idea branded in my head about that song "Movement." I gotta few ideas for a bad ass remix to it, and i believe it'll be a HIT on iTunes, etc. Im thinking somewhere along the lines of a reggae/dubstep flavored hybrid. you remember that song by Alex Clare- Too Close? here: removed youtube link .. I'm not thinking as mainstream as that but something similar thats TRUE to your style of the song. i honestly believe it'll be a HIT and downloaded into millions of iPhones..lol. Let me know so i can get to WORK on some top notch shit! "
Terry
In my non legal opinion, answering the question "what would you do?" is not actionable in any way. Kai didn't say he was raped he asked rhetorically what would you do?
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Given that the murder occurred over the weekend, and Ratliff posted his comment on Wednesday after, it seems quite possible that Caleb was responding to the e-mail message.
If he actually committed the murder, which is far from proven at this point.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)(clip)
An autopsy performed the following day determined that Galfy died as a result of "blunt force trauma", according to Union County Prosecutor Theodore J. Romankow.
(clip)
Investigators said Kai met the attorney near Times Square, and a surveillance camera captured images of them. The men later went back to the victim's house, officials said.
A post was made to his Facebook page on Tuesday in which Kai claims he was raped by the man.
rollin74
(1,973 posts)interesting quote from your link:
"We have located various points along the way where he has been and we have determined there may have been some homicides along the way," said Union County prosecutor Ted Romankow.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)It was pretty simple before, now they added a whole lot more.
gvstn
(2,805 posts)Thanks for the new information, I hadn't clicked through to the article and missed it.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Thought he'd still be in CA with friends surfing. Disturbing story.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Simply copy/pasting here.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/caleb-kai-lawrence-yodhehwawheh/some-fill-in/171882509642616
by Caleb Kai Lawrence Yodhehwawheh (Notes) on Friday, 10 May 2013 at 10:34
Alrighty then. consider me Caleb Kai Lawrence Hannah Sophia Athenus יהוה ॐ
First memories: I was in a crib and "family" was fussin over me, but I kept getting told that I "had a demon". I would wake up screaming from night terrors and "family" would get sexual with me, then blame me for being all wound up. I was told by a woman self-declared "mother" that the woman self-declared "grandma" touched me as a baby and imparted a "demon" into me. events later in life caused me to think it's the other way around. I've already been thrown away by them, they refuse to talk to me about when I was a child, saying that "guilt, shame and blame have no place in [their] life, because jesus forgives [them]" I would get locked in a room for 20 hours a day with a little port-a-potty camp toilet in the corner of the room and when I'd make any noise at all I'd get hit with little broom handles and wooden spoons, then after that my mouth was filled with hot pepper and soap for yelling "fuck you" at the top of my lungs from the little cage I was kept in (the beatings didn't silence me). what did silence me was when they'd both take turns picking me up and putting me in cold showers, no heat at all. I'd be naked and shivering, only two years old, and the woman who kept everyone else out of my life out of shame would be the only one there to hold me. when I was young I got caught lighting a sleeping bag on fire, and drinking a bottle of benadryl, but when they took me into the hospital and the doctors shoved a tube down my throat without anesthetic the doctors just sent me back to the house with them. the two "parents" would use me to get digs at each other, they'd fuck all the time and cage me up and I could hear them and it seemed to be all that love *was* between them. they'd bring me to church and I'd spit on the floor and take the "gifts" from the table so I could finally eat something, I got sent to bed without food all the time. when I was two years old I painted the walls in shit and that was the only chance I got to express creativity in that environment. the two "parents" would completely trash each other in front of the three kids, and because there was one kid who wasn't from their "marriage", the man, he'd take toys from him and give them to me. so that kid learned to hate me from a young age. the other kid learned to hate me when I got a knife out from the kitchen drawer and tried carving a hole in the wall to escape into a tunnel I wanted to build into the ground... I seen a look in his eyes and it was exactly like he gave the self-declared "mother" when she'd beat the kids and me. so I turned to him with the knife and the other kid came running in and tackled me. of course, him and I both got beat for that. I got sent to psychiatric hospitals after that, and all the doctors took her side because she was so eloquent and I was just 4. I couldn't relate in their big words about all the pain I would feel when she brought out "mr. broom" and "mr. spoon" and THEY got angry. she would always blame the objects she hit me with instead of herself, and whenever I wanted to go out and be active at the playground the two "parents" would say, 'no, jesus might come tonight'. I was fuckin terrified of jesus when I was young, he seemed so evil but they kept sayin he was loving and pure and holy and only he could get me into 'heaven'. I kept wanting to die so bad so I could be in 'heaven'. I read the bible passage where there was a prodigal son and I kept demanding "my inheritance" so I could just leave. They took away everyone else from my life and locked me in a cage so that I would love them, it was fucked up. I still remember waking up from a horrorful dream and screaming, the woman would stand in the doorway and yell "shut the fuck up! stop yelling! STOP FUCKIN YELLING!" and then she picked me up and threw me in the shower and turned it on full cold. I had a phobia of showers for a long time after that. They split up when I was 4, and I remember the woman standing at the top of a stairwell yelling "Either he goes to the hospital and gets help, or I'm leaving you". She never mentioned that she had found another man 6 months before, it was all my fault... the man picked me up and went to go live with his mother, then gave me a cold shower when we got there for being upset. his mother told him to never do that again.
happy mother's day sophia =)
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
Trajan
(19,089 posts)While it was a rather dangerous pursuit, I never felt inclined to bring a hatchet ...
In fact; ANYBODY producing a hatchet would have led me to jump ship and skedaddle ...
Aint no fucking WAY I am hanging out with a hatchet-wielding hitchhiker, in any form or fashion ... (Unless they were a Boy Scout in uniform on a camping trip ... )
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)But this Kai dude apparently went totally overboard....though I won't judge him just yet.
(BTW, for those of you who don't know about the tragedy that is Chris-Chan, he's a 31-year-old autistic guy from Virginia who's well known in the 'Net meme community for his rather extreme Pokemon fandom; he created a Pokemon/Sonic crossover called "Sonichu", which is regarded as perhaps the worst Internet comic of all time.
Unfortunately, that is just the TIP of the iceberg. He is a homophobe, racist, sexist jerk, and even maybe borderline anti-Semitic too, and not only that, but he has been arrested for stalking, harassing kids, and even tried to run over a store manager once, just because he wasn't allowed to frequent his store anymore!)
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I am interested in this guy as he is around the age of my son and the young adults we have around our place and trying to figure out what happened to and with him. So, will post what I find when I can.
http://www.theprovince.com/Murder+suspect+Hatchet+Wielding+Hitchhiker+spent+time+Tofino/8400718/story.html
gvstn
(2,805 posts)1) Someone (unsubstantiated) said they talked to a local police official and they said the lawyer had internet cameras all through the house, so the police may have a very good idea of what happened there.
2) Another redditor (there was a verification pic) met Kai two weeks ago in NY and gave him a cigarette in exchange for a book recommendation and this was the book: Finding Joy: 101 Ways to Free Your Spirit and Dance with Life http://www.amazon.com/Finding-Joy-Ways-Spirit-Dance/dp/0060925884/ I find this rather sad.
PopeOxycontinI
(176 posts)went by the name "Kai the hatchet wielding hitchhiker". You just can't make this shit up.