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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Fri May 17, 2013, 07:31 AM May 2013

Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair's lawyers want computer evidence from his Fort Bragg residence thrown ou

Source: Fayetteville Observer

http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2013/05/16/1257267?sac=fo.military



Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair's lawyers want computer evidence from his Fort Bragg residence thrown out
By Paul Woolverton
Published: 10:30 PM, Thu May 16, 2013

A pretrial hearing in Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair's sexual misconduct case ended Thursday following arguments on whether computers were unconstitutionally seized from his home on Fort Bragg.

The judge did not rule on that issue or most of the others brought before him this week as Sinclair's defense team strove to weaken or knock down the multiple charges he faces.

Sinclair is accused of forcing a captain with whom he had a three-year extra-marital affair into performing oral sex twice, as well as other inappropriate activities with her and three other women.

The next pre-trial hearing is scheduled for June 4. Sinclair's court-martial is scheduled for June 25.


Read more: http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2013/05/16/1257267?sac=fo.military



unhappycamper comment: I find it interesting that this guy's lawyers are telling the judge that the no porn rule in the Middle east is unconstitutional. And that the military was wrong "when computers were taken from his Army-provided home at Fort Bragg."

I wonder what Secretary Hagel is going to to with this guy. Probably nothing.

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Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair's lawyers want computer evidence from his Fort Bragg residence thrown ou (Original Post) unhappycamper May 2013 OP
I agree, Unhappy Camper: Active Duty Military personnel TheDebbieDee May 2013 #1
Your statement is not accurate. I spent 25 years in uniform and had no shortage of rights. For 24601 May 2013 #6
When I was on active duty, there was no expectation Downwinder May 2013 #2
Promote him . . . another_liberal May 2013 #3
Hagel will approve of this guy, I expect he will be rewarded. Hagel says all straight sex is holy Bluenorthwest May 2013 #4
you forgot something in your comment riverbendviewgal May 2013 #5
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
1. I agree, Unhappy Camper: Active Duty Military personnel
Fri May 17, 2013, 08:10 AM
May 2013

do not have any constitutional rights.

They do not have the right to free speech, the right to bear arms, the right to privacy, etc.

24601

(3,955 posts)
6. Your statement is not accurate. I spent 25 years in uniform and had no shortage of rights. For
Fri May 17, 2013, 08:35 PM
May 2013

example, Article 31 rights (military version of Miranda) are more extensive than the basic 5th amendment rights against forced incrimination.

Commanders may authorizes searches of areas under their control; however, the standards pf probable cause are the same as required for a judge to issue a search warrant.

But this wasn't even about a search since Mrs. Sinclair handed over the (Government Property) computer without a search after the agent lied to her about the reason. But guess what? You lie to an investigator and it's a crime; however, if the investigator lies to you, it's perfectly legal. I doubt we could even count the number of times the police told a suspect that his partner confessed and blamed him.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
2. When I was on active duty, there was no expectation
Fri May 17, 2013, 08:28 AM
May 2013

of privacy in on base housing.

Of course, I was not a General officer.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. Hagel will approve of this guy, I expect he will be rewarded. Hagel says all straight sex is holy
Fri May 17, 2013, 09:05 AM
May 2013

it is the gay people that he hounds, libels, slanders and attacks in the press for existing. Hagel has often claimed that gay people are not up to the moral standards represented by Sinclair, the exemplar of heterosexual ethics. Now if Sinclair had been gay, particularly out of the closet, or what Hagel calls 'openly, aggressively gay' Chuck would be tearing this man apart in the press, as he did to Hormel for simply being gay. Openly and aggressively.
No, this Sinclair is representative of Hagel, of Obama, of all the Sanctified Petraeus Brand Rick Warren approved heterosexualists. I remember Obama explaining very calmly that all straight couples have a 'spiritual element' made by God, gay people never have this because God won't allow it. What a joke.
I assume the entire 'we are holy' crowd is as decadent as Sinclair.

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