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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Thu May 23, 2013, 07:50 PM May 2013

Deadlocked Arias jurors can't reach verdict; mistrial declared

Source: CNN

(CNN) -- An Arizona jury Thursday said it was unable to reach a unanimous agreement and would be unable to decide what penalty Jodi Arias should receive for killing her ex-boyfriend.

Judge Sherry Stephens declared a mistrial for the penalty phase of the trial. That means a new jury will be chosen, but the first-degree murder conviction still stands.

A new penalty phase in the case will begin on July 18, Stephens said.

Since Tuesday, jurors had been deliberating whether Arias, 32, should get a death sentence for murdering her ex-boyfriend in 2008.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justice/arizona-jodi-arias-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1




A new Jury will be picked for 'only' the penalty phase (death penalty or life in prison)

The previous 'guilty' verdict and the 'aggravation found' verdict will stand.

Court will resume on July 18th to impanel a 'new jury'.

Then prosecution and defense will be able to present evidence to the 'new jury'.

Once the trial resumes it could take months - we might be looking at September or October (?) - before a penalty phase verdict is reached.

If the 'new jury' is unanimous on 'death penalty' Arias will go straight to death row.

If the 'new jury' is unanimous on 'life' it will be up to the Judge to decide 'life in prison with no parole' OR 'life in prison with possibility of parole after 25 years.

If the 'new jury' does not reach a unanimous decision then there will be another mistrial declared, the jury will be dismissed, the death penalty will be off the table, and then the Judge will decide life in prison with no parole' OR 'life in prison with possibility of parole after 25 years
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Jodi Arias stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander 29 times (while still alive), slit his neck from ear to ear, and shot him in the head.
She is a monster!

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Deadlocked Arias jurors can't reach verdict; mistrial declared (Original Post) Tx4obama May 2013 OP
Pretty much guaranteeing she won't get death. onehandle May 2013 #1
it's a show trial PatrynXX May 2013 #2
I'm sure... CanSocDem May 2013 #4
I have not been following this trial but why the problem. texanwitch May 2013 #3
She wants to be put to death, so I hope they give her life. secondwind May 2013 #5
No, she said in the interviews Tuesday evening that she doen't want to die because... Tx4obama May 2013 #8
Oldest trick in the book rocktivity May 2013 #11
Maybe they'll throw her in the briar patch Orrex May 2013 #24
She played both cards. defacto7 May 2013 #23
Show trial, The Last Dem. May 2013 #6
As usual in these show trials, the prosecutors over-reached. naaman fletcher May 2013 #7
So if someone in your family was stabbed 30 times, throat slit ear to ear, and shot in the head... Tx4obama May 2013 #9
What does that have to do anything? naaman fletcher May 2013 #12
The prosecutor in this case is following the law. n/t Tx4obama May 2013 #18
How do you think the prosecutors got it wrong? hrmjustin May 2013 #26
They over-charged naaman fletcher May 2013 #27
I am against the death penalty so I think she should get life. hrmjustin May 2013 #28
In what circumstance would you seek the death penalty? This was a sinkingfeeling May 2013 #32
Well, naaman fletcher May 2013 #35
Whew, I thought she'd been acquitted of the top charge rocktivity May 2013 #10
Minority? She is hispanic. N/t alp227 May 2013 #39
I believe the death penalty is wrong in all cases. Gore1FL May 2013 #13
I doubt I'd get the opportunity to hang a jury Cirque du So-What May 2013 #14
Me too. DeadLetterOffice May 2013 #22
I would be honest about the fact I do not think I could send someone to their death. hrmjustin May 2013 #29
High-Five. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #36
The time to object to the death penalty is when they are interviewing jurors before the trial> KittyWampus May 2013 #15
OK. please forgive me for my inexperience in death penalty cases. Gore1FL May 2013 #21
I fully agree with you!!! gopiscrap May 2013 #25
Then you would have to lie on the jury forms. To serve in a death sinkingfeeling May 2013 #33
I've been told this three times now. Gore1FL May 2013 #34
This trial has been an enormous waste of money. former9thward May 2013 #16
If a man did this, it would be instant death, especially a minority man (black, latino, etc) Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #17
There are currently only three women on death row in Arizona, not even a whole handful. n/t Tx4obama May 2013 #19
Oh, the groundhog saw its shadow so I guess that means we get 6 more fucking months of this. Super. DRoseDARs May 2013 #20
Make up was give to Arias by a ChazII May 2013 #30
I hope she gets life davidpdx May 2013 #31
Minus the 5 years she has already served in jail, so she would be 53 yrs old Tx4obama May 2013 #37
Oh god, I forgot about time served davidpdx May 2013 #40
The judge should send them back to deliberate more. The Stranger May 2013 #38
I agree, I think sitting a new jury for the penalty phase could end up in a deadlock davidpdx May 2013 #41
The weird thing is that it was the verdict. Union Scribe May 2013 #42
Hmph. That is weird. The Stranger May 2013 #43

texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
3. I have not been following this trial but why the problem.
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:02 PM
May 2013

Just give here life in prison and be done with it.

Life at her age is a long time.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
8. No, she said in the interviews Tuesday evening that she doen't want to die because...
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:06 PM
May 2013

it would hurt her family too much.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
11. Oldest trick in the book
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:12 PM
May 2013

Get the jury to "punish" her by denying her "desire" for death...


rocktivity

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
23. She played both cards.
Thu May 23, 2013, 09:18 PM
May 2013

She is into the power/control feature of media hype. She has determined that no matter which way it goes she gets what she wants. It is the way of the sociopath. If the media would get out of the way she would get what she deserves. Instead, she get fame!! and control!!! That's all it's about.

The media sucks.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
9. So if someone in your family was stabbed 30 times, throat slit ear to ear, and shot in the head...
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:09 PM
May 2013

and then the prosecutor asked for the death penalty for the murder you think that would be over-reaching?

I don't think so.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
12. What does that have to do anything?
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:12 PM
May 2013

Are prosecutors supposed to follow the law and seek justice or follow the whims of the victims family?

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
27. They over-charged
Thu May 23, 2013, 09:59 PM
May 2013

The woman was nuts and totally manipulated by the guy, and they went and charged her as a death penalty case.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
28. I am against the death penalty so I think she should get life.
Thu May 23, 2013, 10:03 PM
May 2013

I have a hard time believing a word she says. But I do think that trial was a mess.

sinkingfeeling

(51,445 posts)
32. In what circumstance would you seek the death penalty? This was a
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:22 AM
May 2013

barbaric premeditated murder. Jodi isn't nuts and she was never abused.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
35. Well,
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:21 AM
May 2013

I am against the death penalty, but leaving that aside, if she wasn't nuts and it was premeditated and never abused I would agree that the death penalty would be ok.

But I think she was nuts, abused, and broken down.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
10. Whew, I thought she'd been acquitted of the top charge
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:10 PM
May 2013

Last edited Thu May 30, 2013, 09:29 PM - Edit history (1)

So not all of the jurors could bring themselves to bring her to death? Would they have felt the same if the genders of the murderer and victims had been switched? Or if she'd been minority?


rocktivity

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
13. I believe the death penalty is wrong in all cases.
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:13 PM
May 2013

I'd hang a jury in such a situation.

That doesn't take away from her guilt.

Besides, it's cheaper to incarcerate than to kill.

Cirque du So-What

(25,927 posts)
14. I doubt I'd get the opportunity to hang a jury
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:18 PM
May 2013

When the jurors were questioned prior to selection, the prosecutor would kick me out on the first round.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
22. Me too.
Thu May 23, 2013, 09:10 PM
May 2013

I'd never survive voir dire.
Prosecutors hate letting social workers sit on juries.
Which kind of sucks, actually, because we're generally cool, educated, think-it-through folks.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
36. High-Five.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:46 AM
May 2013

I've been the first juror dismissed twice. Not to get out of jury duty, but for being honest.

Prosecutors want a jury of your peers too slow and stupid to escape jury duty. They don't want people who think critically, who listen to news sources like NPR or The Guardian. I mean, really. That came up.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
15. The time to object to the death penalty is when they are interviewing jurors before the trial>
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:20 PM
May 2013

not after the trial and during deliberations.

I don't think you realize how screwed up your post is.

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
21. OK. please forgive me for my inexperience in death penalty cases.
Thu May 23, 2013, 09:01 PM
May 2013

In any event:

The death penalty is wrong in all cases.
Not being killed by the state doesn't detract from her guilt.
It's cheaper to incarcerate than to kill.



sinkingfeeling

(51,445 posts)
33. Then you would have to lie on the jury forms. To serve in a death
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:24 AM
May 2013

penalty case, one must state that they do not object to the state killing somebody and that they could, in fact, vote for death.

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
34. I've been told this three times now.
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:28 AM
May 2013

in any event:

The death penalty is wrong in all cases.
Not being killed by the state doesn't detract from her guilt.
It's cheaper to incarcerate than to kill.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
16. This trial has been an enormous waste of money.
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:23 PM
May 2013

The judge let both sides get out of control. Both the prosecution and defense were allowed to put on repetitive testimony and ask the same questions over and over. Arias will not get the death penalty. Even if she gets an 'official' death penalty it can takes decades to administer the death penalty in AZ. The death penalty will be officially eliminated in a few years. Not because of any moral grounds but because it has become just too expensive with all the appeals. When they end it Arias' sentence will revert to life.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
17. If a man did this, it would be instant death, especially a minority man (black, latino, etc)
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:33 PM
May 2013

I don't understand the hung jury, unless people have an easier time sentencing minorities and men to death and not a woman.

Another reason I believe the death penalty is biased.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
20. Oh, the groundhog saw its shadow so I guess that means we get 6 more fucking months of this. Super.
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:58 PM
May 2013

eom

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
30. Make up was give to Arias by a
Thu May 23, 2013, 11:25 PM
May 2013

local affiliate. I know this is not important in the big picture but it was mentioned on Extra this evening. To be fair, the station did announce that they followed Jodi's request (demands?) for the interview. The others included no showing her fixing her hair, a sweater so people would not see her jail strips or the shackles. Oh and to be filmed from the waist up.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
31. I hope she gets life
Fri May 24, 2013, 07:47 AM
May 2013

If she gets life with the chance at parole in 25 years it would be a grave injustice. She would be eligible for parole at 58.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
37. Minus the 5 years she has already served in jail, so she would be 53 yrs old
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:41 PM
May 2013

Jodi Arias was born on July 9, 1980



The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
38. The judge should send them back to deliberate more.
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:11 PM
May 2013

The trial was months long.

They can stand the wait for a real verdict.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
41. I agree, I think sitting a new jury for the penalty phase could end up in a deadlock
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:55 PM
May 2013

as well or them deciding on the least amount of time (25 years). As Tx pointed out she's already served 5 years, if she's given time served then she'd be eligible for parole at 53. I highly doubt the new jury will choose the death penalty (which I hope they don't).

Also everybody knows if the jury comes back with life without parole or the death penalty her defense team is going to motion for a mistrial on the penalty phase.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
42. The weird thing is that it was the verdict.
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:46 PM
May 2013

From my understanding they had three options, death, life, and no unanimous agreement (apparently unique to AZ to have that as an actual option for them to choose). Once they gave the latter as their verdict, the judge really couldn't do anything to keep it going.

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