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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:18 PM May 2013

Humanist Groups Raise Tens of Thousands for Atheist Tornado Survivor

Source: Raw Story

Humanist groups raise tens of thousands for atheist tornado survivor

By David Ferguson
Friday, May 24, 2013 15:14 EDT

Humanist groups and atheists across the U.S. have banded together to help a fellow atheist who survived the massive tornado that struck Moore, Oklahoma earlier this week.

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At the fund-raising website Indiegogo, atheists have set up a relief fund for Vitsun, who lost her house in the storm and most of her possessions.

“Let’s show the world that you dont need to believe in a god to have human compassion nor does all charity fall under the banner of religion,” says the site. “Let’s get this courageous woman and her family back in their own home.”

The site has already passed its goal of $50,000 by nearly $700 at press time, with 60 days in the fund-raiser still to go.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/24/humanist-groups-raise-tens-of-thousands-for-atheist-tornado-survivor

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Humanist Groups Raise Tens of Thousands for Atheist Tornado Survivor (Original Post) Hissyspit May 2013 OP
GOOD. Because there are probably plenty of "christian" charities in OK that would kestrel91316 May 2013 #1
I like that this is to help her and her family but magellan May 2013 #2
^POINT^ xtraxritical May 2013 #3
Yeah, that is a good point. defacto7 May 2013 #4
Or just a random group of people trying to help someone out Politicub May 2013 #9
Yes, I'm sure atheists are supporting others affected magellan May 2013 #10
I totally agree with you wryter2000 May 2013 #12
No, this is a good thing for now... SkyDaddy7 May 2013 #5
Agree. enlightenment May 2013 #6
I disagree that it's divisive Politicub May 2013 #8
Did I suggest it was up to me? magellan May 2013 #11
Not necessarily divisive fwm May 2013 #16
The Internet moves in mysterious ways Politicub May 2013 #7
www - we work wonders usGovOwesUs3Trillion May 2013 #13
I heard a report today that insurance company's... ReRe May 2013 #14
this just made me tear up.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #15
I'm Getting Out of Hell Free Cybergata May 2013 #17
"Texas Atheist 'Flabbergasted' by Outpouring of Christian Charity" Nye Bevan May 2013 #18
Very cool story. Gives you hope. nt 7962 May 2013 #19
"My wife and I had never had a Christian do anything nice for us," said Patrick Greene. "Just Hissyspit May 2013 #20
It's a miracle! Canuckistanian May 2013 #21
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
1. GOOD. Because there are probably plenty of "christian" charities in OK that would
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:21 PM
May 2013

deny her aid because she said publicly that she was an atheist.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
2. I like that this is to help her and her family but
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:30 PM
May 2013

...I'm not feeling good about the way it's advertised as just for her. And I'm an atheist. It reminds me of how I feel when Christian organizations only help Christians. Isn't it a little in-your-face divisive?

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
4. Yeah, that is a good point.
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:45 PM
May 2013

But another good point is that it's a statement of solidarity and support for and by atheists. I'm sure there are atheist groups supporting the general need too. They usually do.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
9. Or just a random group of people trying to help someone out
Fri May 24, 2013, 05:02 PM
May 2013

I think it's wonderful.

It reminds me of the benefits the community used to do when someone was ill or fell on hard times. It's no different.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
10. Yes, I'm sure atheists are supporting others affected
Fri May 24, 2013, 05:03 PM
May 2013

I am. But it's a given with most people that religious groups will lend a hand; not so for atheists. Too many believe we aren't good at giving, because we go unnoticed. We aren't a collective like the religious are. We don't draw attention to our acts of charity by flying a banner.

I'm honestly torn about it, but I lean towards thinking it might have been better to collect for all, rather than choosing one of our own as the recipient.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
12. I totally agree with you
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:06 PM
May 2013

I think their point would have been much better made if they were organizing to help everyone.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
5. No, this is a good thing for now...
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:46 PM
May 2013

Most Atheist donate to groups that help everyone but this girl was singled out to no fault of her own & stood strong...Most would have went with the flow on national TV but she stood strong & that is why. IMHO.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
6. Agree.
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:52 PM
May 2013

It doesn't need to be so specific. As an atheist, I would prefer to see all donations - regardless of who raises the money - go to all who are in need - regardless of their personal belief or lack thereof.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
8. I disagree that it's divisive
Fri May 24, 2013, 05:01 PM
May 2013

Why should it be up to you to decide the proper way to make and direct a donation? Now *that's* divisive.

This isn't a formal group. It's individuals who are donating through indigogo.

And those same individuals may make make contributions and donations elsewhere. I'm guessing that this isn't the first time the donators have made a donation to an organization or person.





magellan

(13,257 posts)
11. Did I suggest it was up to me?
Fri May 24, 2013, 05:05 PM
May 2013

I expressed genuine misgivings about the message it sends, that's all.

fwm

(12 posts)
16. Not necessarily divisive
Fri May 24, 2013, 07:15 PM
May 2013

I have a graphic design group I belong to that is giving to a family where the father is a graphic designer. I've given to the Red Cross before but I like the idea of knowing exactly who my money is going to help. It's more of a personal connection.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
7. The Internet moves in mysterious ways
Fri May 24, 2013, 04:53 PM
May 2013

The Internet is one of the most profound inventions if you think about it.

Theoretically every person on the planet can get connected to everyone else. Internet memes and hive-mind activities like the one in the OP fascinate me.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
13. www - we work wonders
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:30 PM
May 2013

I am in awe of what we do when we put our hearts and heads together... anything that helps us, is gonna leave a mark

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
14. I heard a report today that insurance company's...
Fri May 24, 2013, 07:03 PM
May 2013

... are only paying about half of what properties were worth before the tornado, less than what they have in the past. I read this thread before replying and don't agree that it's devisive for atheist's to be helping one person. Like this is the only way atheist's are supporting the tornado victims? That assumption is divisive in itself. Also, if Wolf hadn't asked that dumb-ass question and the woman hadn't answered honestly, this effort would never have been launched. Get a grip, people. THINK. Now, independent of religion, get about donating to the fund of your choice to help those devastated people.

Cybergata

(1,465 posts)
17. I'm Getting Out of Hell Free
Fri May 24, 2013, 07:23 PM
May 2013

. . . with my Get Out of Hell Free Card, plus I had to donate because of all the time I have been afraid to say I'm an Atheist in the past 40 years.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. "Texas Atheist 'Flabbergasted' by Outpouring of Christian Charity"
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:42 PM
May 2013
According to the Athens Review, an atheist who had threatened to sue a Texas county over the display of a nativity scene says he is "completely flabbergasted" that Christians from that same county provided him financial assistance for a medical problem.

http://thegospelcoalition.org/mobile/article/tgc/texas-atheist-flabbergasted-by-outpouring-of-christian-charity

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
20. "My wife and I had never had a Christian do anything nice for us," said Patrick Greene. "Just
Sat May 25, 2013, 01:16 PM
May 2013

"the opposite."

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