French Soldier Stabbed In Neck In Paris

[Bosonic]

Source: Sky News

A French soldier on patrol in Paris has been stabbed in the neck by a man believed to be of North-African origin, says Reuters.

The soldier was injured during the attack but will survive, according to a police source who spoke to the news agency.

French daily Le Parisien cited police sources as saying the suspected attacker was a bearded man, about 30-years-old and was wearing an Arab-style garment under his jacket.

He fled the scene and is being sought by police.

Read more: http://news.sky.com/story/1095605/french-soldier-stabbed-in-neck-in-paris

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Report: French soldier patrolling western Paris stabbed in the neck by a man who quickly fled the scene, police source says - @Reuters

https://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/338344615675568128




Coincidence, copy-cat or campaign?

[Bucky]

1. My money's on copycat. This attack doesn't have the planning of the London one

Not that the London attack was that well thought out, but at least they knew how to use their machetes.

[DCKit]

3. A machete is a machete, kitchen knives are kitchen knives. nt

[Hissyspit]

4. My understanding is there was no machete in London, but a meat cleaver.

[DCKit]

2. He was upset over an anti-Muslim film that's been making the rounds...

Until Graham, McCain and Issa find out about it. Then it'll blow up into the biggest scandal since "let them eat cake!"

[demosincebirth]

6. What else is new?

[jessie04]

7. Not surprising.

Last edited Sat May 25, 2013, 09:26 PM - Edit history (1)

It's not a secret that the Muslim community has felt oppressed by the government .

It really got worse when women were forced to remove their veil despite sharia law.

[dbackjon]

8. So you are defending the oppression of women

Under Sharia Law?

Sharia Law has no place in a democratic modern society. No more than levicatical law has no place either

[jessie04]

9. Don't be silly.

Of course not.

I'm against this but I can understand after years of oppression what these people must feel.

I try not to judge anyone's culture or religion.

[dbackjon]

12. So if someone's religion says to kill gays

We should not judge them?

[jessie04]

13. I totally reject and repulsed by that.

I understand what you're saying.

But does that mean we can think one religion or culture is superior to another?

[dbackjon]

18. Yes we can

[oberliner]

19. "But does that mean we can think one religion or culture is superior to another?"

Do you really mean that question?

Edit to Add: I ask because this website is devoted to supporting people with one set of beliefs and values (Democrats, liberals, progressives) over those with a different set of beliefs and values (Republicans, conservatives, etc.).

[Flatulo]

21. Yes. Cultures that do not subjugate and kill women and gays are superior to those that do.

[jessie04]

22. OK...so you believe...

Western culture is superior to "middle east" culture?

Judeo-Christian religion is superior to Muslim/Islamic religion?


On edit...I'm not accusing....just asking based on your response.

[jessie04]

25. Wow...I actually dont know what to say.

nt

[Flatulo]

34. Your moral ambiguity towards a religion and culture that is blatantly sexist says it all. nt

[BainsBane]

48. a well deserved hide

You have revealed an appalling lack of education on the subject matter. At least read something rather than spouting nonsense.



http://www.amazon.com/Islamic-Science-European-Renaissance-Transformations/dp/0262516152/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369549693&sr=8-1&keywords=george+saliba

[Gravitycollapse]

49. Well deserved hide, indeed.

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[BainsBane]

50. Yes

I was juror number 1. I restrained myself.

[Turborama]

69. This is good, too.. Fascinating History Channel Documentary: Science & Islam – With Prof. Jim Al-Kha

I posted an OP a while ago with lots of links: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9377046

[John2]

29. Islam is a religion.

Your name seems Italian? All those others you speak of are religions. What scientific discovery do you claim any religion made? Most religions are based on faith. There has been Arabs that practiced Islam contributed to science. It was even after the Persian Empire. The Arabs did conquer parts of Spain and Africa. They were also a huge part of the Ottoman Empire.

They made discoveries in such areas like medicine, astronomy and math. They made contributions to Literature and music. Examples are the contribution to optics and the discovery of how light and vision interact by reflection and refraction. They made discoveries in surgery and created a system of the first hospitals known. An Arab was known as the father of Algebra and it was Arabs that bought the Arabic numeral system to Europe like 1,2,3,4... There are many more that I can site but don't have the time.

[Flatulo]

30. Islam is a system that governs all aspects of life, and as such, is really more than religion.

Most Muslims don't actually practice it this way, but many do. Sharia law is practiced in Saudi Arabia for example. Courts there draw their sentencing guidelines from the Quran, not civil law. So discrimination is enshrined in their legal system.

I believe the inventions you cite predate the founding of Islam.

[Gravitycollapse]

47. "I believe the inventions you cite predate the founding of Islam." - Totally, utterly false.

If you're going to disparage entire regions of humanity, at least have the common decency to know what you're talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

[wellspring]

38. Aw, c'mon. Iran has given so much to the world. Like, um, er, pistachios.....

And, um, uh, pistachios.....

[Yo_Mama]

23. I second that n/t

[BainsBane]

46. What culture is that?

Certainly not this one.

[ButterflyBlood]

59. uh yes

Religion or culture that doesn't kill gays is quite superior to any thst does.

[NickB79]

87. Only 100 years ago, white supremacy was part of US culture

More so in some parts of the country, but generally widespread. Non-white races were viewed and treated as inferior, with no recourse under the law. Women and GLBT were treated no better. A major underpinning of this culture was justified by the religious beliefs of the time.

Fast-forward a century, and I think our current culture is far superior to the one we once had. Wouldn't you agree?

There is nothing sacred about cultures when they trample basic human rights and dignities.

[kestrel91316]

81. It's not "oppression" to tell people to stop treating women like dirt.

[ZombieHorde]

27. For the women who chose to wear the veil, the ban is oppressive.

Just because someone chooses to dress differently than you doesn't mean their way of dressing is bad.

[Flatulo]

32. It's bad if it perpetuates the discrimination against women, yes.

[GeorgeGist]

14. VEIL.

women were forced to remove their vile

[jessie04]

26. Sorry...my bad.

nt

[Cha]

35. You can still change it, jessie. n/m

[Flatulo]

17. If you cannot assimilate to the culture of a host nation, then you shouldn't emigrate there.

It's shocking how inhospitable Muslim countries are towards non-Muslims, yet they expect special treatment when they emmigrate to secular states and capitols. They're herded into Muslim enclaves in the host city/country, then try to establish Sharia law.

The elites who govern these European capitols welcome them with open arms in the name of diversity and multiculturalism, but radical Imams set up shop and call for the destruction of the host culture, usually while receiving welfare benefits from the them.

It's a bad situation. We in the USA have done a better job of assimilating our Muslim immigrants - the whole melting pot thing.

There's a controversial book on this subject, but I read it and it does make some good points.

While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within

Check out Wikipedia entry on this book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While_Europe_Slept:_How_Radical_Islam_is_Destroying_the_West_from_Within

[ZombieHorde]

28. Nations are arbitrary, and are inherently meaningless.

I have no problems with people trying to change the way other people think through rhetoric, regardless of any paperwork that may to associated to some people by some other people.

[wellspring]

39. Aw c'mon. What's so bad about being inconsistent?

Being inconsistent is FUN.

Once you've loosed the shackles of stinkin consistency, you can get away with murder and really have a jolly good time.

[Comrade Grumpy]

43. That's some really reactionary shit you're peddling.

I suppose next you're going to tell me all about the Protocols of the Elders of Mecca. You'd be better off marching with your buddies in England.

[freshwest]

52. Followed the links, and that writer also wrote an important book on our American situation:

Stealing Jesus: How Fundamentalism Betrays Christianity

I had to go to Amazon to get a review of the book. He didn't pull any punches there. A lot of things we don't want to talk about because of the first amendment. It's important to maintain a secular society to allow all these different cultures, but it's getting out of balance when people break the law in the name of religion and expect to get away with it. We've got our domestic terrorists such as the killer of George Tiller who is openly celebrated, and the tremendous amount of hatred being pushed against gays and women in the name of religion as well. This move backwards is extremely dangerous to all of us.

[Quantess]

83. I think it's only positive that women do not have to cover their faces anymore in France.

No matter if her oppressive husband or family tells her she can't leave the house showing her face, too bad for them, they can't make her cover her face.

I personally know some muslim women who don't cover their hair. I also personally know some muslims who cover their hair. The hair scarves look nice and they do not interfere with normal human communication the way that the burqas do.
There is no place for burqas in europe, at all.

[daleo]

10. Hard to say if this is copy cat or new tactics

There have been plenty of cases of Afghanistan soldiers turning on western "allies". Attacking western troops unexpectedly in their homeland has something of that to it. It could be considered a low tech counterpart to drone warfare.

It may be more of a spontaneous thing than a planned campaign, though.

[wellspring]

40. Yeah, cause, like, if water is wet,

it must have been COPYING the other water.......

Obviously, there's no pattern in all this terror activity.......

Pay no attention to the foreign indoctrination and overseas trips so many of these "lone" individuals and their "lone" accomplices have had.

[daleo]

88. Perceived commonality of interest can lead to common actions

Without the need for explicit planning or conspiracy, at least up to a point.

[EC]

11. I wonder if the militaries will have their guys stop wearing their uniforms off duty? n/t

[GeorgeGist]

15. Reading is fundamental.

French soldier patrolling western Paris stabbed

[dookers]

16. The Gendarmerie is a style of police organization with military influences.

[jakeXT]

20. What is the "France's Vigipirate anti-terror surveillance plan" ?

The 23-year-old was patrolling in uniform with two other soldiers as part of France's Vigipirate anti-terror surveillance plan when he was approached from behind around 6 p.m. and attacked with a knife or a box-cutter.

...

Witnesses near the commuter train station where the attack occurred gave conflicting descriptions of the fleeing suspect. One asserted on TV that he saw two men fleeing, while another said the scene was too confused to tell.

...

The latest warning was published on YouTube a few weeks before armed gunmen this week attacked a military base and a French uranium extraction site in the central African state of Niger, killing 24 soldiers and one civilian.

Valls said France would retain its current terror alert level at "red, reinforced", one step down from "scarlet", which is only activated in case of a serious and confirmed attack.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/25/us-france-stabbing-idUSBRE94O09420130525

[muriel_volestrangler]

57. It's their version of Homeland Security alerts

France is on high alert following a threat from the North African wing of al-Qaeda, related to the country's military intervention in Mali, reports the BBC's Christian Fraser in Paris.

The higher state of alert is one of the reasons why some 450 soldiers are on patrol at metro and train stations and other vulnerable locations in Paris.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22670697

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigipirate

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Vigipirate

[Ken Burch]

31. All the more reason for everyone in Europe to get out of the Middle East.

We have no right to be there. We NEVER had any right to be there. Our presence in all of those places was always reactionary and greed-based.

Just bring them all home already. It's time for imperialism to end-forever.

[jessie04]

33. How does that relate to French soldier stabbed in neck?

nt

[Ken Burch]

36. It's all tied to the rage the Western neo-colonialist, neo-Crusader presence in Afghanistan and Iraq

is taken by Muslim people.

It's wrong that this soldier was stabbed, but the blood is on the hands of the entire power structure.

And things like this will likely keep happening as long as the West doesn't do the sane thing and leave.

[jessie04]

58. Oh.....like this ??

Iran: Ayatollah Ali ‘Kill-All-Jews-Worldwide-And-Annihilate-Israel’ Khamenei Calls European Races ‘Barbaric’


http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m1uqBsFJfIE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dm1uqBsFJfIE%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded



Yes, he is very angry at "the European races".

[muriel_volestrangler]

60. I'm not sure how you think that's relevant

Yes, we know that the Iranian leadership is anti-Western. So he's made the same kind of comments about us that you hear, say, Ann Coulter making about Muslims. He's as bad as she is, and he's in a position of power. But how does that tie in to a man of north African appearance stabbing a French soldier in Paris?

[ButterflyBlood]

61. What the fuck does France have to do with the Iraq War?

What a riduculous post.

[Quantess]

67. Or Sweden...

[Pelican]

90. The blood...

... is literally and figuratively on the hands of the man who STABBED HIM IN THE NECK.

I'm sure as soon as every trace of western influence, in a modern interconnected world, is removed, then they will be reasonable and non-violent.

Any moment now....

Any moment...

[wellspring]

41. It all has to do with Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle......

If a rat looks at the universe, he changes the universe.

Likewise, metaphorically speaking, it was all the French soldier's fault because he was minding his own business up to no good.

It was all his fault. He shouldn'ta oughta had a funny look in his eye. The nerve.

[Flatulo]

37. Maybe it's also time for Europe to rethink their immigration policies.

It looks to me like there is a major culture clash happening. Multiculturalism isn't the be-all and end-all.

[wellspring]

42. Hey. Stop criticizing Europistan.

If they can chop off people's heads in the Middle East, why not in Europe?

Like, let's say you're just walking along in England minding your own business innocently chopping somebody's head off in broad daylight like a normal person and then along comes some:

intolerant person

getting on your case and telling you that you aren't allowed to do that.

Sheesh! What an intolerant person.

I mean, that head chopper is innocent until proven guilty. THAT means he's innocent. After all. It's not as if he had blood all over his hands.......

We shouldn't even call it terror. That's just semantics! It should be treated as just a routine police matter as everyone knows.

CLEARER. HEADS. MUST. PREVAIL.

(If you still have one....)

[Comrade Grumpy]

44. You two might feel more at home at English Defence League Underground.

Sound like you're all reading from the same script.

[Flatulo]

45. I have no vested interest in Europe, but as an observer, it seems to me that they've lost control

of their immigration policies. This can often lead to internal tensions that end in bloodshed. For a recent history of where unchecked Muslim immigration can lead, see the Balkan War.

I don't read from anybody's script, I just call it as I see it. Some people prefer political correctness to the exclusion of the truth.

[LeftishBrit]

54. Balkan War? So Milosevic etc were Muslims?

I do have a vested interest in Europe, and I have no tolerance for extremists on ANY side. I was on the London underground less than 24 hours before the July 2005 bombing; on the day when it happened I was FRANTIC with anxiety about not being able to contact my mother who could well have been in the wrong place that day - fortunately she was safe and sound and not using public transport. I don't like religious nuts of any sort, Christian or Muslim, and have no more tolerance (possibly less) for the Islamist hate-preachers than I do for Ian Paisley or Fred Phelps.

But to blame the Balkan War on Muslim immigrants is to blame people (Bosnians) who were mainly VICTIMS.And they were not in any case immigrants.

And I know plenty of British Muslims, and most of them don't like the extremists any more than I do - just as most Catholics don't like the IRA bombers, and most Protestants don't like Ian Paisley or Pat Robertson.

[Democracyinkind]

55. Did you just say that the Balkan War was caused by unchecked muslim immigration?

Wowza.

[wellspring]

51. Excuse me, but I have been involved with Democratic Party politics for 45 years,

went to the most leftist high school in America where 97% of us staged a student strike against the war and 70% of the teachers struck too. I marched to the UN and heard Martin Luther King speak long before some people on this site were in diapers. I helped elect many Democrats you've heard of including Obama, Clinton and many Democrats at the state and local level. I held some minor Democratic campaign staff positions and was a student intern for a Democratic senator in the United States Senate. Don't you DARE tell me I don't belong here.

Some people think they can get their progressive politics on the cheap by sobbing over the fantasized rights of mass murderers. And then they wonder why Republicans win elections. Fact is that when al Queda was making problems Bill Clinton (whom I helped elect) sent in cruise missiles. We all know these people have ties to foreign radical groups, info on that has been coming out copiously lately.

A lot of people from Boston to London to Paris are in great pain right now while people like you tap their nose clucking away hackneyed slogans and plug in political correctness.

But if you want, treat the whole thing purely as a police matter, pretend there is no such thing as terrorism, put your head between your knees and kiss your ass good bye.

[muriel_volestrangler]

56. So, how do you propose to start discriminating against the groups you don't like?

Your use of 'Europistan' indicates you have something against the central Asian countries, and the people from them. They are, as far as we can tell, not involved in any way in the London or Paris incidents (the London one was by 2 British-born converts from Christianity to Islam, whose families both came from Nigeria; if the Paris culprit is Muslim, the chances are far higher he comes from one of the French ex-colonies in north Africa), but, here you are, radical student and Democratic activist, attacking immigration policies of Europe on the grounds that all these non-European people are the same, and Europe should never have allowed any of them in in the first place. Is it their skin colour that frightens you? After all, the London converts' families were Christian when they arrived. Or are you saying that all Muslims should have been banned, on the grounds that you hate them all?

If you were involved in Democratic politics, then God help the Democratic party.

[LeftishBrit]

53. I've lived in England all my life; in two cities which have many Muslim immigrants

And nobody goes around chopping people's heads off, or thinking it's normal. Nor does the country accept people's right to go around acting like the Taliban or any other extremist organization. As if I should need to point this out on a progressive board anyway!

Your claims and the very term 'Europistan' sound as though you've been listening to the propaganda of the BNP and EDL; even mainstream far-right sources like the Daily Mail don't go to such extremes,

[Bosonic]

62. Knife attack on soldier in Paris treated as terrorism

Knife attack on soldier in Paris treated as terrorism

French anti-terrorist investigators are handling the case of a soldier stabbed while on duty near Paris on Saturday evening, prosecutors have confirmed.

The soldier was wounded while on patrol in La Defense, a business district west of the French capital.

Private First Class Cedric Cordier was approached from behind and stabbed in the neck with a small-bladed knife. Defence Minister Jean Yves Le Drian told reporters that he had been targeted because of his profession.

His attacker, said to be a bearded man of North African origin, escaped and a police hunt is under way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22670697

[jessie04]

64. And people wonder ...

why the Islamic community in France feels oppressed?

This is why France will ultimately collapse.

[muriel_volestrangler]

70. Oh, do tell us what your great political wisdom says about this

"This is why France will ultimately collapse"?

What is? You seem to be posting loads of non sequiturs to this thread.

[jessie04]

71. No non sequiturs .

It obvious there are a lot of angry Muslims in many countries ... Mostly because they have been victims of oppression.

They want to have their religion respected. I try not to judge religions.
I mean...Who are we to judge ? (Some people here disagree with me)

Sweden has seen much social upheaval and there are some people who think Sweden will not be the same country in 10 years.

Same with France.

I can relate to people who have been oppressed.

[muriel_volestrangler]

73. People say the stabbing of a French soldier is being treated as terrorism

and you reply "people wonder why the Islamic community in France feels oppressed? "

Why should treating it as terrorism give them a reason to feel oppressed? That's the first non sequitur in that post. The second is "this is why France will ultimately collapse". There is no reason to believe that treating this as terrorism is an example of why France will ultimately collapse. It makes no sense whatsoever, and you don't even try to explain. Saying that one individual stabbing a soldier is terrorism is not 'oppressing Muslims'.

Another example of your non sequiturs is reply #58, in which you post a clip of Khamenei apparently (if we trust the MEMRI translation, that is) saying Europeans are barbarians who secretly beat their wives. But you think that is an example of rage against "the Western neo-colonialist, neo-Crusader presence in Afghanistan and Iraq". Wrong country, wrong accusation. You just seem to through things out at random, as long as they have a vague connection to Islam.

[jessie04]

74. Gee...ok

Sorry.

[unreadierLizard]

63. Considering Muslims aren't very happy with anything now a days..

Islam is an intolerant religion - if you're a woman, if you're gay, if you don't believe 100% in the word of the Koran. It's tragic, really; since Islam imposed itself on the Middle East thousands of years ago, the area's been full of hatred and fighting almost non-stop ever since.

[jessie04]

65. "Death to all JUICE " ??

I see you don't believe in multiculturalism.

[Nimajneb Nilknarf]

75. Keeping fruits and vegetables intact is a tenet of the Whole Foods Movement, or so I've read.

Juicing is murder, they claim.

[Quantess]

66. No matter where in the world they go,

a stunningly large percentage of muslims are unhappy.

The muslims I personally know seem like reasonable people and good citizens (a couple of muslim women who don't cover their hair, BTW), but then, I don't hang out with extremist religious nuts.

The few muslims that are angry religious zealots are ruining it for everybody else. And there are way too many of those.

[unreadierLizard]

68. Right.

My whole point is - why would they move to these countries only to complain about the freedom that women and gay people get? Is it so wrong to follow the belief that if you like Sharia, stay in your own, Sharia-Law ruled country?

[Quantess]

86. A good percentage of immigrants from predominantly muslim cultures don't want to adapt,

don't want to integrate. In fact, some of them are directly opposed to the cultures into which they immigrated.

In my own opinion, this is partly based on vanity on the part of european cultures. There is this idea that the asylum seekers will be so pleased to be living in a nice, peaceful, western culture (such as Sweden), that they will want to adapt and learn the language. Well actually the western culture is not as delightful to the muslim immigrants as hoped, surprise, surprise.

There is this "We need to help these poor people! They need to escape their horrible countries!" attitude in Sweden, and other countries in europe. In many cases, this is a misguided notion.

[Sunlei]

72. why does their military "Patrol West Paris"?

Even in the usa we are back to the days where many of the police are 'pigs' .

Really a shame for the police and military who have to fear haters coming at them all the time.

Sad for societies where everyone has to deal with basicly kitted out-storm troopers "patrol" their neighborhoods.

[ButterflyBlood]

76. It doesn't happen in the US because the US doesn't have a Gendarmerie

It's quite common in France, and other countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gendarmeries

[Nimajneb Nilknarf]

77. The USA has the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878

http://www.dojgov.net/posse_comitatus_act.htm

[Sunlei]

78. stop & frisk neighborhood in NYC?people come out of their home & are searched

Police, lots of them assigned to that area of citizens and have made thousands of searches for no reason at all.

Doesn't seem fair to humilate our civilian American citizens like a "Gendarmerie"

same thing in Ca. the homeless street areas, America has a Gendarmerie police force there too. against the law to sit, against the law to carry a camp chair and sit, against the law to carry a beverage container..only in those couple square blocks of city where the lowest cost homes are and a lot of homeless facilities are.

[ButterflyBlood]

79. That's not what a Gendarmerie is

A Gendarmerie is a military unit that carries out normal police duties as well. It has nothing to do with how repressive, unfair, or disregarding of liberties that police force is, nor is it something inherently "bad", nor "good" for that matter. The NYPD and LAPD most certainly have been guilty of some pretty bad things such as mentioned, but they are not military units.

[Sunlei]

82. some of the usa police fit the defination to a tee, "maintence of public order"

Definition of GENDARME. 1: a member of a body of soldiers especially in France serving as an armed police force for the maintenance of public order

soldiers=armed police..they could rename themselves "The USA Male Nun troop" and still be in those areas harassing/humilate, regular American citizens for no reason at all.

[ButterflyBlood]

84. No armed police are not soldiers anymore than some teabagger militia is

No US police force is part of the military. Yes they might harass and humiliate people for no reason at all and deserve criticism for that when it happens and investigation of the incidents when it does. That does not however mean the harassing police are a gendarmerie. It just makes them bad police.

[Sunlei]

85. we will have to disagree then.

I think the thousands of persons in NY state that are stopped and frisked everytime they exit their homes are citizens dominated under a military branch of the NY police. Same with the Ca. skid row neighborhood with thousands of low cost homes, dominated by a military-like arm of the LA police.

Both groups treated totally differently than Americans living a few blocks away. This has been going on for years and no one stops the state gov. from allowing this 'gendarmerie' police.

[muriel_volestrangler]

80. However, he is not a gendarme; he's a member of a mountain infantry brigade

http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2013/05/26/l-agresseur-du-militaire-a-la-defense-activement-recherche_905741

"Le militaire blessé, Cédric Cordier, 23 ans, issu du 4e régiment de chasseurs de Gap"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_Army_regiments#Arme_Blind.C3.A9e_Cavalerie_.28Armoured_Cavalry.29

Contrast that to a gendarme injured earlier this month, also from the Liberation report:

"Le 7 mai, un gendarme avait été blessé d’un coup de couteau à la gorge"

[Bosonic]

89. 'Radical' Muslim held in Paris soldier stabbing

(AFP) 'Radical' Muslim held in Paris soldier stabbing

PARIS — Police investigating the stabbing of a French soldier in Paris on Wednesday arrested a suspect sources described as a supporter of "radical Islam".

"The suspected perpetrator of the attack on a soldier Saturday evening in La Defense (business district) was arrested this morning," Interior Minister Manuel Valls said in a statement.

The statement said the suspect was arrested in Yvelines, just west of Paris.

Sources close to the investigation said the 22-year-old man has been a follower of a "traditionalist even radical Islam for the last three or four years."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ilqiRuZ87N0egiRFdZHw2dYtPH4Q?docId=CNG.c4a3a00a436cc762900e363f3e12bfa4.2d1

[yurbud]

91. so we need to bomb France to eliminate KND?

Knives of Neck Destruction?