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alp227

(32,006 posts)
Thu May 30, 2013, 12:26 AM May 2013

Universities Team With Online Course Provider

Source: New York Times

Coursera, the California company that offers free college classes online, is forming partnerships with 10 large public university systems and public flagship universities to create courses that students can take for credit, either fully online or with classroom sessions.

The move could open online classes to 1.25 million students at public institutions across the United States, and could help increase graduation rates by making introductory and required classes — often a bottleneck because of high demand — more widely available.

Joining Coursera will be the State University of New York system, the Tennessee Board of Regents and the University of Tennessee systems, the University of Colorado system, the University of Houston system, the University of Kentucky, the University of Nebraska, the University of New Mexico, the University System of Georgia and West Virginia University.

Some systems plan to blend online materials with faculty-led classroom sessions. Others will offer credit to students who take the courses online followed by a proctored exam on campus.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/education/universities-team-with-online-course-provider.html



An example of coursera lecture about Dijkstra's algorithm from an AP story about Coursera:

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B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
2. I teach freshman comp at the University of California (7 yrs.)
Thu May 30, 2013, 02:01 AM
May 2013

As far as writing goes, this is a potential disaster of the first order. As someone who has built an OWL (on-line writing lab) and a distance learning system, I would argue that the wet and virtual experiences are vastly different. This split will create two "classes" at these institutions, with one group on the usual path to networking with professors, TA's and departments while the other toils in cubicled anonymity like a bunch of electronic Bartleby's.

That the UC's are considering this (there is pending state legislation that would force them to do so) is especially odd since Prop 30 passed and there's plenty of $ coming back into the Cal system that should be used to hire faculty and create additional sections of these required courses. I'm no enemy of new media as it forms the core of my phd study, but this is not the answer. If you already think college kids can't write, just hold on to your hats, "'cause the worst is yet to come."

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
3. and folks in India
Thu May 30, 2013, 05:46 AM
May 2013

will learn to write English from real teachers. Writing will be the next thing outsourced.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
5. Problem is, the cost of college has become utterly staggering
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:07 AM
May 2013

and the debt it incurs is toxic. This has to be fixed.

Seems like some blend of live and online coursework is the way to go.

DotGone

(182 posts)
11. Udacity has a handful of credit courses run by San Jose State for $150
Thu May 30, 2013, 09:39 PM
May 2013

These are all cheaper than a community college credit in MA. Georgia Tech will be offering an online MS in Computer Science for $7K for the entire program. Too bad I don't qualify as I made the mistake of getting an accounting degree. It's disgusting that a year at a run down public university here will run you $16K+ in tuition, fees, books, & supplies. Add in living expenses and it's easily $25K+.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
4. I see online courses as a way to cut instructors
Thu May 30, 2013, 07:53 AM
May 2013

I've taken online courses and found them to be extremely inferior to having actual interaction with an instructor and other students. One aspect that gets overlooked is that different people have different modes of learning. A good instructor can work with a wide variety of students to make sure they all grasp the subject, that's not gonna' happen with an online course and many students will come away lacking.

WilmywoodNCparalegal

(2,654 posts)
8. I have and am taking courses on Coursera
Thu May 30, 2013, 11:03 AM
May 2013

One was a master's level class in strategic innovations in organizations taught by a well-known Vanderbilt U. professor and professional engineer. The other one is a law class taught by a Emory U. professor on the history of nationality and citizenship laws in the U.S.

I was also taking an introductory class on learning to play the guitar from Berklee College of Music, but had to drop it (not enough time).

I was a 'professional' student at the college level for 10 years of my life at brick-and-mortar institutions, one of which cost an arm and a leg (and now costs two arms and three legs) - our basketball coach is expensive .

Comparatively speaking, I got more out of the Coursera classes I've taken than many of my freshman and sophomore year prerequisite classes which were no picnic as I was then an engineering and biochemistry double major (advanced levels of calculus, differential equations, statics, thermodynamics, etc.), when I was in a huge theater-like classroom with 200 of my closest classmates and some poor graduate student teaching assistant.

On occasion, the TA would not be exactly fluent in English - as luck would have it, I tended to have these TAs in some of the more difficult classes, which made translating what the TA was saying half the fun.

Anyway, Coursera has some excellent universities that already provide some great courses. They have started a fee-based 'signature' option if you want an employer to actually verify that you did take a class.

I also like the fact that there are students from all over the world, that I can view the lectures and take the quizzes in my little spare time and that I can participate in discussions with the other students, in ways that I would not be able to do if I had to go to campus and manage my very busy full time job (DU notwithstanding .

Don't knock Coursera till you try it. I personally find it a very useful tool for lifelong learning or to brush up on stuff I learned a long time ago, or even to learn something new.

Education should be free and freely available. Coursera will not replace a campus or the campus experience or even the one-on-one interaction with a professor and classmates, but it certainly levels the playing field for those who can't afford higher education.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
10. Universities Are using Coursera for marketing purposes - with some of their best professors
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:26 PM
May 2013

Some universities are using the Coursera process to create better brand-name recognition for their university overseas. They are persuading a few of their most popular professors to participate, but typically are not offering college credit.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
12. Right - no credit but I still learned what I needed to learn.
Thu May 30, 2013, 10:13 PM
May 2013

It was an Emory University professor and the course has definitely given me a positive attitude toward Emory.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
13. Sounds like a great idea to me
Fri May 31, 2013, 10:34 AM
May 2013

Maybe I can collect another degree before I croak. Always did love school even though I spent much of my adult life in independent study.

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