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kpete

(71,964 posts)
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:39 AM Aug 2013

Other Agencies Clamor for Data N.S.A. Compiles

Source: New York TImes

Other Agencies Clamor for Data N.S.A. Compiles
By ERIC LICHTBLAU and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
Published: August 3, 2013 113 Comments

WASHINGTON — The National Security Agency’s dominant role as the nation’s spy warehouse has spurred frequent tensions and turf fights with other federal intelligence agencies that want to use its surveillance tools for their own investigations, officials say.

Agencies working to curb drug trafficking, cyberattacks, money laundering, counterfeiting and even copyright infringement complain that their attempts to exploit the security agency’s vast resources have often been turned down because their own investigations are not considered a high enough priority, current and former government officials say.

Intelligence officials say they have been careful to limit the use of the security agency’s troves of data and eavesdropping spyware for fear they could be misused in ways that violate Americans’ privacy rights.

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Smaller intelligence units within the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Secret Service, the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security have sometimes been given access to the security agency’s surveillance tools for particular cases, intelligence officials say.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/us/other-agencies-clamor-for-data-nsa-compiles.html?hp&_r=1

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kpete

(71,964 posts)
1. keeping us safe...
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:46 AM
Aug 2013

The article still makes it sounds like the NSA is reluctant to share its knowledge of everything with everybody, but they do sometimes and everyone haz a sad because they don't do it all the time.
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2013/08/keeping-us-safe.html

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
2. Ha! And that is the slippery slope...Total information awareness for all agencies.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:50 AM
Aug 2013

The unlawful tracking of every American regardless of probable cause is on our doorstep.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
3. So many agencies, so many people want to lock up/control everyone else.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:56 AM
Aug 2013
Intelligence officials say they have been careful to limit the use of the security agency’s troves of data and eavesdropping spyware for fear they could be misused in ways that violate Americans’ privacy rights.

Hello! The mere gathering of that data is a misuse abuse of our privacy rights. Regardless of what a small handful of DU operatives think.
Land of the Free, my ass. More like a police state, being run by several want-to-be dictators, in competition for the top spot.
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
5. This is the very reason why such data collection/retention is fucking DANGEROUS...
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 11:04 AM
Aug 2013

This data can be used for anything... including blackmail.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
6. One FISA rubber stamp for all. How nice that they limiting the use ...for now.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 01:21 PM
Aug 2013

Oh the NSA irony: "misused in ways that violate Americans’ privacy rights"

polynomial

(750 posts)
7. Perhaps America is Really in a Political Charade
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 01:32 PM
Aug 2013

Alan Grayson seems to be very politically savvy compared to his contemporaries. Watching him this after noon on you tube because my mainstream media is turned off. Yes, no satellite and no cable, does it feel nice. Just have to stay away from hate radio. However, Congressman Grayson talked about different topics including the NSA spying.

Straight away when ask about the spying Congressman Grayson said “The spying must be stopped”. Without hesitation, no convoluted circular inverted argument normally given by most in the Congress or Senate persons. What jumps out to me is a simple reference to the rule of law.

Sometimes the law is broken but the reason is a good one; here anyone could sense that Grayson did defend Snowden but did say Snowden broke the law. Hear me out to think about a huge, huge contrast in opinions that genuinely expose our media as totally dysfunctional. Plus Senator Schumer was also in the mix describing how the Russians gave Snowden a year of political asylum describing how it was devastating by nature to make a decision like that.

We the People need to understand that huge chunk of international Law accountability are completely disregarded by our media in this debate. Also affecting immigration, trade, and simple things like The International Criminal Court the ICC established into force July 1, 2002.

Individuals who commit any of the crimes under the statute after that date are liable for prosecution by the court. This is the first-ever permanent, treaty-based, international criminal court established to promote the rule of law and ensure that the gravest international crimes do not go unpunished, International Criminal Court, 2005.

Well boys and girls these United States of America the so called leader of the world, the super duper too big to fail, political screw up, and the best country to be a corporate tyrant, obviously with self-evidence determined by the great decider George W. Bush not to be a country that participates in just legal actions that support crimes against humanity, and war crimes, or, genocide.

Of course America may very well have broken tons of copy right laws but the most serious is the phony Iraq war is an outrage. It is surprising that over a hundred counties that are participating do not arrest our American persons around the world. Or, worse America should be at world war three handed off by George Bush to Obama. Perhaps America is really at war with the world but the mainstream media, the congress, the senate, just will not admit it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
9. But now see: "Exclusive: U.S. Directs Agents to Cover Up Program Used to Investigate Americans"
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:13 AM
Aug 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014557159

Was the NY Times story a pre-emptive plant to deny the Reuters one?
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