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AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:35 AM Aug 2013

BREAKING: George W. Bush undergoes successful surgery to open blockage in heart artery

Source: NBC News

Former President George W. Bush underwent a procedure Tuesday morning to have a stent placed in an artery after a blockage was discovered in an annual physical examination, according to his office.

The procedure was conducted at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. According to a statement, the blockage was discovered at the Cooper Clinic in Dallas on Monday and at the recommendation of his doctors, he agreed to go ahead with the procedure which was successful.

President Bush is in "high spirits," according to the statement and is "eager to return home tomorrow and resume his normal schedule on Thursday. He is grateful to the skilled medical professionals who have cared for him. He thanks his family, friends, and fellow citizens for their prayers and well wishes. And he encourages us all to get our regular check-ups."


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/



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BREAKING: George W. Bush undergoes successful surgery to open blockage in heart artery (Original Post) AngryOldDem Aug 2013 OP
no comment heaven05 Aug 2013 #1
That's a relatively minor procedure these days. nt onehandle Aug 2013 #2
He has one?1?!?! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #3
He has an artery - don't know if the rest of the heart is there. jwirr Aug 2013 #18
Good point! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #19
He has a heart? MissDeeds Aug 2013 #4
Electron microscope. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #6
Electron microscope. AlbertCat Aug 2013 #29
George W Bush Binoculars liberal N proud Aug 2013 #7
Is that pic real or was it photoshopped? Beacool Aug 2013 #22
Its probably real zbr6 Aug 2013 #35
Thanks for responding. Beacool Aug 2013 #48
You decide. William769 Aug 2013 #56
Maybe the banner should read: BREAKING: George Bush has a heart. n/t AngryOldDem Aug 2013 #12
+1 LiberalEsto Aug 2013 #21
No, it was big and looks like this: kentauros Aug 2013 #51
GW is the one without the brain and Cheney is the one without a heart cosmicone Aug 2013 #58
Speedy recovery to him. TwilightGardener Aug 2013 #5
+1 treestar Aug 2013 #62
Thank You Gore1FL Aug 2013 #81
He underwent surgery to have a heart ADDED. dorkzilla Aug 2013 #8
Looks like those mikeysnot Aug 2013 #9
Of course, during his "reign", the media always tried to portray him bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #10
That's EXACTLY what I thought of first! It was all baloney! Greybnk48 Aug 2013 #16
Being physically fit is not a guarantee you will not have cardiac vascular diseases. yellowcanine Aug 2013 #49
But he fell off a Segway! n/t cosmicone Aug 2013 #59
Physical fitness is no guarantee against heart disease Hekate Aug 2013 #61
Remember Jim Fixx? jmowreader Aug 2013 #67
Sure glad he's got access to socialized healthcare ... Myrina Aug 2013 #11
Get well, George W. and consider yourself lucky that your heart beats at all. democrank Aug 2013 #13
Rec llmart Aug 2013 #72
I have a hard time having any sympathy for W Botany Aug 2013 #14
No sympathy for Bush. earthside Aug 2013 #20
I knew he had a bad heart. One day it will BlueToTheBone Aug 2013 #15
It appears that they put in a stent. Beacool Aug 2013 #17
Wondering if and, AlRod Aug 2013 #23
Opportunity Missed BlueManFan Aug 2013 #24
OMG, that poor poor man. I could just cry. graywarrior Aug 2013 #25
That's nice.... (I suppose WE paid for it) AlbertCat Aug 2013 #26
High spirits? Enjoying the post op drugs? MADem Aug 2013 #27
If he'd have been operated on by a proctologist, than... MarianJack Aug 2013 #28
I still think of having a colonoscopy as a Bush Brain Scan. Lars39 Aug 2013 #76
That's Good! MarianJack Aug 2013 #83
Sure! Lars39 Aug 2013 #84
Must be that great minds thing again! MarianJack Aug 2013 #85
Oh that every American could have this life saving procedure if necessary. peace13 Aug 2013 #30
Exactly. AngryOldDem Aug 2013 #36
My first thought as well PorridgeGun Aug 2013 #40
+1 area51 Aug 2013 #55
Must have been the artery that leads to the brain. leveymg Aug 2013 #31
Regular schedule of what? bluedigger Aug 2013 #32
... Mira Aug 2013 #34
The doctors didn't dare open him up formercia Aug 2013 #33
no comment.. Tikki Aug 2013 #37
Unlike so many, this privileged son can easily afford it. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #38
+1,000,000 Auggie Aug 2013 #39
And he encourages us all to get our regular check-ups." Except for MyNameGoesHere Aug 2013 #41
Yeah marions ghost Aug 2013 #73
I don't like W, but out of respect for the office reflection Aug 2013 #42
Its bad form to speak ill of the dead dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #43
They put in a stent because he has been eating a very rich, cholesterol-laden diet kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #44
At least the Scarecrow was smart enough to ask the Wizard Jamastiene Aug 2013 #45
I really do not care uwep Aug 2013 #46
wished the whole country had his healthcare eom LittleGirl Aug 2013 #47
Stents are fairly routine; you're not even anesthetized No Vested Interest Aug 2013 #50
on a serious note shanti Aug 2013 #63
Through heart scans, ultrasounds, and such. AngryOldDem Aug 2013 #65
Patient reports symptoms to medical personnel (shortness of breath, for example) No Vested Interest Aug 2013 #66
Thank you shanti Aug 2013 #69
The cost is considerable. No Vested Interest Aug 2013 #78
I had a friend who had a cardiovascular workup at the Ilsa Aug 2013 #79
I'm sure it was exploratory surgery, at least until they found his heart on point Aug 2013 #52
No comment. cliffordu Aug 2013 #53
His heart has been blocked his whole life Sanity Claws Aug 2013 #54
He's in "high spirits" and is "eager to resume his normal schedule?" rocktivity Aug 2013 #57
Huh. I figured a black hole would just suck all the instruments into it. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #60
Yeah, whatever. Iggo Aug 2013 #64
So I'm going to assume he went to the emergency room for medical care prole_for_peace Aug 2013 #68
Sorry to hear about this. Sorry that it was successful. olddad56 Aug 2013 #70
He never had a heart, not ever...nor a conscience. Miserable bastard: Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #71
Oh I'm really sorry... Hubert Flottz Aug 2013 #74
I'm not the Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #75
I am so glad that he has access to healthcare and life saving procedures when needed ejpoeta Aug 2013 #77
Most valid point made on this thread (imo) penultimate Aug 2013 #86
Go to the light, Carol Anne! Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2013 #80
Another POS who keeps hanging on. nt valerief Aug 2013 #82
That man has a heart? jasond54231 Aug 2013 #87
Two sizes too small no doubt. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #88

greatauntoftriplets

(175,728 posts)
19. Good point!
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:58 AM
Aug 2013

The artery likely stops just short. He inherits that from his mother. The lack of a brain is due to his father.

 

zbr6

(12 posts)
35. Its probably real
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:49 AM
Aug 2013

My guess is he raised them up and realized the cap was on but you know those photographers snapping away at 100 shots a minute caught him anyway.

As for the OT, heart problems are terrible and can strike anybody so stay healthy!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
48. Thanks for responding.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:16 PM
Aug 2013

That IS a funny pic. LOL!!!

As for his heart issues. I don't wish that on anyone.

You too stay healthy.

Gore1FL

(21,095 posts)
81. Thank You
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:26 PM
Aug 2013

I was surprised to see the lack of human compassion on this thread. Your post stands out positively.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
10. Of course, during his "reign", the media always tried to portray him
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:41 AM
Aug 2013

as this total physical marvel. A magnificent specimen that managed to keep up with Lance Armstrong on his mountain bike, and riding at a pace that tired out the Secret Service agents assigned to ride alongside him.

I'm SHOCKED that this was nothing more than smoke and mirrors!

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
16. That's EXACTLY what I thought of first! It was all baloney!
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:51 AM
Aug 2013

The "healthiest President in history," was just more lies. And notice we never saw REAL footage of him keeping up with Armstrong when he's riding full out (and I wouldn't believe a single word Armstrong says right now anyway).

That said, I hope his Docs do "a heck of a job" keeping him safe and healthy.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
49. Being physically fit is not a guarantee you will not have cardiac vascular diseases.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:38 PM
Aug 2013

It just reduces the risk. Diet is also important, as are genetics.

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
61. Physical fitness is no guarantee against heart disease
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 01:59 PM
Aug 2013

Dubya had muscles we could all see from time to time due to those bicycle shorts -- according to written accounts he had an exercise compulsion.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
67. Remember Jim Fixx?
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:56 PM
Aug 2013

He was the guy who popularized running...he died of atherosclerosis, and croaked right after a long run.

So yeah, I can believe our gym rat ex-prez needed this kind of surgery.

democrank

(11,084 posts)
13. Get well, George W. and consider yourself lucky that your heart beats at all.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:45 AM
Aug 2013

Some hearts don`t beat anymore. Like the hearts of those soldiers you killed with your lies.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
20. No sympathy for Bush.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:03 AM
Aug 2013

I am really not a mean and vindictive person ... but when it comes to Bush and Cheney ...

I'm sorry, but because of what they did to thousands and thousands and thousands of Americans and innocent Iraqis, well, they cannot suffer enough in their remaining lifetimes, in my opinion.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
15. I knew he had a bad heart. One day it will
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:51 AM
Aug 2013

attack him. It may be the only justice we receive in this world regarding *

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
25. OMG, that poor poor man. I could just cry.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:11 AM
Aug 2013

I'm glad they didn't tell us before hand coz I woulda been frantic with worry. Hope he is gonna be ok.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
28. If he'd have been operated on by a proctologist, than...
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:14 AM
Aug 2013

...we'd have known that it was brain surgery...micro-surgery, at that!

PEACE!

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
36. Exactly.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 10:56 AM
Aug 2013

I know someone with an aortic aneurysm. At some point it will have to be repaired and the cost could run as high as six figures. And then there is a recovery time of six months or longer. He's already said that when that time comes, he will basically do a cost/benefit analysis. If it's too much of a financial burden, he won't have the surgery. He will not bankrupt himself or his family for it.

Such is the choice we are being forced to make in this great country of ours. Health care is such an unaffordable luxury that it's just better to die.

 

PorridgeGun

(80 posts)
40. My first thought as well
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:27 AM
Aug 2013

..that the "routine" tests he had were anything but routine for average Americans.

I had a doctor tell me once that if you're getting to "that age" and have some family history, have smoked, poor diet etc. to lie. Tell them you get dull pressure under your sternum and nausea on exertion that resolves with rest etc. You get the idea.

He told me this stems from the fact that it is more cost effective for HMO's to treat cardiovascular disease after an acute event rather than testing people who fall into certain risk categories and catching it before a real problem happens. This sounded a bit silly.. angiograms, bypasses, drugs etc. are all very expensive.. until it was pointed out to me that the first sign of previously undiagnosed heart disease for a third of people who have it is sudden cardiac arrest, which conveniently reduces future treatment costs to an autopsy.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
41. And he encourages us all to get our regular check-ups." Except for
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:29 AM
Aug 2013

those poor bastards that can't afford it. Now watch me hit this ball.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
44. They put in a stent because he has been eating a very rich, cholesterol-laden diet
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:50 AM
Aug 2013

for his whole life. I can't imagine him changing his ways. He'll need another, and then he'll need a bypass or three, and then a heart attack will get him.

At least Bill Clinton had the sense to finally go whole food, plant-based, low-fat so he'll do well in the long run. I can't see Bush admitting that he needs to change - that's simply not in him.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
45. At least the Scarecrow was smart enough to ask the Wizard
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:05 PM
Aug 2013

for a brain.

So, now we know both Cheney and Bush actually had hearts, after all, but they did not function correctly.

You are welcome, George W. Bush, not that you'd ever thank tax payers for your medical care that you get using our tax money while many of us cannot afford the most basic care.

uwep

(108 posts)
46. I really do not care
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:08 PM
Aug 2013

he did not care about NOLA, over 100K Iraqis, 4k Americans, and trillion $ not budgeted.
Why should we care about him???

No Vested Interest

(5,163 posts)
50. Stents are fairly routine; you're not even anesthetized
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:41 PM
Aug 2013

One can watch the procedure being done to oneself on a monitor.
I have five stents, two different procedures; family history of heart disease.

Interesting that the problem was found at the Cooper Clinic. This was founded by Dr. Kenneth Cooper ca 40 yrs ago. He's the doc who first popularized aerobic exercise.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
65. Through heart scans, ultrasounds, and such.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:23 PM
Aug 2013

I believe Bush found his the way most do -- he was asymptomatic and this showed up during a physical.

No Vested Interest

(5,163 posts)
66. Patient reports symptoms to medical personnel (shortness of breath, for example)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 03:33 PM
Aug 2013

Doc orders tests- Stress test on treadmill. You are assigned a (fairly high) target heart rate based on your age. Various monitors placed on your body; the rate of the treadmill and the incline are gradually increased, causing the heart rate to increase.

The test can also be given chemically rather than on a treadmill, causing the heart rate to increase, for those unable to do a treadmill test. I had this test one time, and felt very uncomfortable with that test, and continue to have a modified (shorter time period) treadmill test, owing to bad knees.

If the test indicates a heart problem, the cardiologist will order an angiogram, wherein a small tube is inserted into the groin or, more recently, someplace on the upper body, and inched up to the heart. A dye is run through the tube and, if there is a blockage, it will be shown on the monitor.

The physician will then insert one or more stents through the tube to open the blocked vein or artery.

The patient may have been sedated but not anesthetized and can often see the procedure being performed. The patient must be very careful that the area of entry (femoral artery in the groin) is fully sealed so that bleeding does not occur. Some patients can go home the same day, some may need to stay overnight.

I am not a medical person, so someone with training may be able to explain the procedure better than I, but that's the gist of it, to the best of my ability. There are likely many medical sites that can give you a more exact account.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
69. Thank you
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 06:04 PM
Aug 2013

That was very informative. I asked my dr for a stress test (family history of heart issues), but she only asked me why and didn't order one. I couldn't understand why not

No Vested Interest

(5,163 posts)
78. The cost is considerable.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:38 PM
Aug 2013

I'm covered by Medicare Advantage, and had to pay very little - I don't recall.

Is your dr. a primary care physician? Perhaps they don't wish to get into ordering stress tests, but a cardiologist would, if you report symptoms. Perhaps family history is not reason enough in and of itself without symptoms.

An annual physical might include a EKG; if anything's askew there ask your physician for a referral to a cardiologist.
If nothing's wrong, count your blessings and eat well, exercise, no smoking, and alcohol in moderation.

Make sure you know your cholesterol counts, - total, LDL, HDL, etc.

I have been on a number of medications - blood pressure, blood thinner, anti-cholesterol, low-dose aspirin - since the stents were inserted and cardiologist says I'm doing fine.

Good luck in your quest for good health.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
79. I had a friend who had a cardiovascular workup at the
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:39 PM
Aug 2013

Cooper Clinic. They said he was fine. Then a month later he had a heart attack. His new cardiologist looked over his Cooper Clinic workup and said they blew it big time.

They might be great at rehab, but I guess it al depends on which dr is testing.

Sanity Claws

(21,839 posts)
54. His heart has been blocked his whole life
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 01:03 PM
Aug 2013

Interesting how someone totally lacking in empathy has heart blockages.
Or in the case of Darth Cheney, a dead heart that had to be replaced with a machine.

Just stream of consciousness thinking.

rocktivity

(44,571 posts)
57. He's in "high spirits" and is "eager to resume his normal schedule?"
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 01:16 PM
Aug 2013

His normal schedule of what -- DRINKING high spirits?

And who is he to be telling people to get regular checkups? His idea of health care is to go to the emergency room!


rocktivity

prole_for_peace

(2,064 posts)
68. So I'm going to assume he went to the emergency room for medical care
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 04:12 PM
Aug 2013

“The immediate goal is to make sure there are more people on private insurance plans. I mean, people have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room.”
George W. Bush, 2007

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
70. Sorry to hear about this. Sorry that it was successful.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:14 PM
Aug 2013

I would normally not speak ill of sick people, but I don't consider him a people.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
71. He never had a heart, not ever...nor a conscience. Miserable bastard:
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 08:29 PM
Aug 2013
They did it by denying detainees legal process because, as the CIA’s Inspector General put it in a 2004 report, when you torture someone you create an “Endgame” problem: You end up with detainees who, “if not kept in isolation, would likely divulge information about the circumstances of their detention.”

They managed all this, for a time, through secrecy—a secrecy that depended on the aggressive suppression of two groups of voices.

Over and over again, in Afghanistan and Iraq, in Guantánamo, in secret CIA black sites and at CIA headquarters, in the Pentagon, and in Washington, men and women recognized the torture for what it was and refused to remain silent. They objected, protested, and fought to prevent, and then to end, these illegal and immoral interrogations. While the president and his top advisers approved and encouraged the torture of prisoners, there was dissent in every agency, at every level.

The documents are full of these voices. In fact, it is thanks to these dissenters that much of the documentary record exists. From emails among FBI agents sharing their shock over scenes they had witnessed in interrogation booths in Guantánamo, to letters and memoranda for the record, to major internal investigations, the documents show that those who ordered and carried out the torture did so despite constant warnings and objections that their actions were ineffective, short-sighted, and wrong. It is no wonder that so many of these documents were suppressed.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/04/george_w_bush_and_torture_america_s_highest_officials_are_responsible_for_the_enhanced_interrogation_of_prisoners_.html

Fuck you, George W. Bush

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
75. I'm not the
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:24 PM
Aug 2013

biggest Bush ll fan, but good for him that he is OK. I just wish that more Americans would have access to at least the same health care that he gets.

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
77. I am so glad that he has access to healthcare and life saving procedures when needed
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 09:37 PM
Aug 2013

without having to worry about going bankrupt and losing everything.

 

jasond54231

(51 posts)
87. That man has a heart?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 02:16 PM
Aug 2013

That's news to me, to be perfectly honest. I don't think someone with a real heart would be so thoroughly involved with something as bloody as the Iraq War. I wonder if a microscope is needed to find it?

As they say, only the good die young. Sad.

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