Obama tweets "Gravity exists. The Earth is round. Climate change is happening."

[uhnope]

Source: twitter

Gravity exists. The Earth is round. Climate change is happening. #ScienceSaysSo

Read more: https://twitter.com/BarackObama

[bravenak]

1. The tides go in the tides go out.

It's magic.

[sharp_stick]

2. Exactly

[bravenak]

3. I was hoping somebody would join me in remembering that fun fact filled episode of Billo the Clown.

Thank you so much!
Nice graphic!

[SunSeeker]

33. LOL! nt

[freshwest]

16. Stephen Colbert Defends Pappa Bear O'Reilly Against the 'Pinhead' Bloggers

COLBERT:

...Worse yet… worse yet the leftie blogosphere has ridiculed Bill by pointing out that the moon causes the tides and that we’ve known that for centuries. Well it’s humble pie time, people who took ninth grade science...

Father O’Reilly, take ‘em to Sunday school.

O’REILLY:

How’d the moon get here? Look, you pinheads who attacked me for this, you guys are just desperate. How’d the moon get here? How’d the sun get there? How’d it get there? Can you explain that to me? How come we have that and Mars doesn’t have it? (inaudible) How come? Why not? How’d it get here?

COLBERT:

Boom! Take that gravity huggers!

...In fact, where does Bill O’Reilly come from? He’s on my TV, he’s off my TV. Then he’s back. Where’d he come from? Sometimes he’s on the radio and I’m watching him on the TIVO at the same time. You can’t explain that...

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/stephen-colbert-defends-pappa-bear-oreilly

Neither know that aliens built the Moon to watch us all and control our minds. NSA? CIA? TSA? They have them all beat and have been at it for thousands of years. Be scared, very scared!

[bravenak]

18. I love Colbert!

[sheshe2]

44. Oh gawd~ that quote mad me laugh out loud~

...In fact, where does Bill O’Reilly come from? He’s on my TV, he’s off my TV. Then he’s back. Where’d he come from? Sometimes he’s on the radio and I’m watching him on the TIVO at the same time. You can’t explain that...

In fact I am still chuckling freshwest!
Thank You~

[kiri]

59. Gravity is Just a Theory

http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/schempp.html

Be wary. Gravity, like evolution, is just a theory. And not fit for children--Australians being upside down? Ridiculous.

[ConcernedCanuk]

81. Reminded me of an old saying/joke

.
.
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"I don't believe in gravity,

I think the earth sucks!"



CC

[wtmusic]

4. "Americans are being spied on."

"Innocent Yemenis are getting droned."

Watcha gonna do about it?

[uhnope]

10. So blinded with Snowden-worship and filled with Obama-hate

that you can't think of anything else

[mindwalker_i]

15. It's important to recognize when Obama does something right

and this is one such case! Good for him. It's also good to remember that not everything Obama does is right and to give him hell over it. So calling someone a "hater" is just as stupid as people who only hate.

[Cha]

21. Yes, I agree.. but, some just really are chronic sufferers of ODS.

[mindwalker_i]

43. Absolutely true

It's also absolutely true that there are people who go way too far the other direction. These people make excuses for why it's okay for Obama to spy on everyone. Or why it isn't illegal.

It's like people who are so religious that anything connected to their religion is wonderful. And don't mind that inquisition.

[tridim]

46. Obama spies on everyone?

Man he's good!

lol

[Cha]

51. And, there are others who use hyperbole like "Obama spies on everyone" that

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totally dilutes their position.

Silly spelling mistake.

[Beartracks]

65. "dilutes"

Sorry.

I don't make it a mission to correct every typo on the Internet. I just happened to see yours, because it involved 25% of the words in your post.



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[Cha]

66. Thanks, Beartracks! And, I'm one of those

who appreciates correct spelling and usually check it myself if I'm not sure. I messed up!

Going now to correct.

[uhnope]

27. You're right, I should have said ODS. my mistake. nt

[Cha]

19. I knew there would be someone who would try and piss on this

climate crisis thread. Can't have anything relevant about the Climate Crisis getting attention without the predictable pissing contest.

It's pathetic when it can't be recognized that we need help on the disasterous Climate Change Crisis. As if there aren't enough threads for you to have your say on Drones, Spies, Yemen, Etc Etc Etc.

[SunSeeker]

36. Wow, apparently you are incapable of multi-tasking. nt

[sheshe2]

48. Walking, talking and chewing gum at the same time,

can be very tricky sometimes~

SunSeeker~

[SunSeeker]

52. LOL

[Cha]

53. that's a good way to put it.

[MjolnirTime]

79. You're not going to shit about it. How do you like them apples?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

5. Dana Rohrabacher replies: "Fucking Magnets, How Do They Work?"

[JaneyVee]

6. Time is an illusion.

[Oakenshield]

7. Pardon me if I don't throw up my arms with joy...

But more liberal countries like Norway have that figured out for quite a while. Now if he tweets "Our drone attacks abroad have killed dozens of innocent civilians. This can't continue" then we might actually have reason to celebrate. I mean if this small concession to reality is something we should all be excited about...yikes.

[Progressive dog]

11. Liberal countries have figured out science.

I'm trying to remember the last time a country got a Nobel prize in science.
You could post the drone stuff in a Snowden/Greenwald Libertarians appreciation thread. It would be more appropriate.

[Oakenshield]

14. I must be tone deaf...

Because if you're not being sarcastic.....

[Progressive dog]

17. Oh, I'm not being sarcastic.

Drone attacks and Norway figuring stuff didn't have much to do with the OP except that they gave you an opportunity to launch a gratuitous attack on the Democratic President of the USA.

[Oakenshield]

22. Gratituous?

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Did we not elect this President to be better, to be more more compassionate and thoughtful than Bush?! These drone attacks abroad are doing no small amount of damage to innocent civilians! How are we any better than the sheeple Republicans as they cheered on Bush during his two terms if we turn a blind eye to these drone attacks?

And no, I am not some Libertarian type with fears of a government that could come to use this technology on us. My only fear is this tribal mentality that threatens to make us no better than our political opponents. We are better than this. When Bush and his administration abused their power we called them on it. If we won't do the same when its one of our own sitting in the white house then those criticisms meant nothing.

[phleshdef]

28. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and blah.

So sick of you ODS types trying to derail threads with your bullshit.

You folks are starting to make me feel numb to the mention of drones and that's not a good thing because I know we need to scale that shit down. But you folks are so annoying and childish with the way you attempt to spam every thread with it that I just get sick of hearing about it.

[Just Saying]

34. We're all getting

Obama Derangement Sydrome Syndrome

You hear "blah blah blah" when they start?

Because I hear "Wawa wa wawa" like adults on Peanuts cartoons.

Must be a different strain?

[phleshdef]

37. Yea its like Obama Critic Derangement Syndrome.

There are valid criticisms of all politicians that we SHOULD care about. But I'm just getting so warn out with it. Instead of turning people against Obama, they are turning people against valid criticism because of the hyperbole and inappropriate way they spam the world with it.

[Just Saying]

38. True story n/t

[Oakenshield]

41. My apoligies.

I didn't know we needed breaks from critical thinking regarding politics. I'm sure if we just adopt your strategy everything will turn out peachy.

[phleshdef]

61. You insult the concept of "critical thinking" by pretending thats what you were doing.

[Oakenshield]

63. I'm pretending?

Since you seem to understand me better than anyone including myself, do tell what was I doing then? Go ahead. I'm all ears.

[phleshdef]

72. Yes, I'm pretty sure I spelled it correctly.

[LanternWaste]

69. I'd imagine that if we use critical thought, it implies we also use relevance...

I'd imagine that if we use critical thought, it implies we also use relevance. Critical thought about climate change, the obstacles and the solutions would be valid.

Critical thought about drones and surveillance in a thread about climate change appears merely an advertisement rather than engaging discussion about climate change.

(Insert rationalization here)

However, as you're on a roll, maybe you could find a thread about feminism and post policies you dislike regarding Guantanamo Bay... as it's either relevant, or just another voice who doesn't understand "right place, right time..."

Regardless, good luck understanding 'relevance' and its everyday usage and uses!!

[Oakenshield]

70. Getting ahead of yourself.

Whether or not my post was relevant is entirely a matter of opinion. Perhaps if this thread was posted expressly under Environment and Energy you might have more evidence to support your argument. Nice try though.

[Progressive dog]

42. Yes it was gratuitous, you did it to bash Obama

since that seems to be the whole point of your post. Don't bring up Bush and compare him to Obama. Bush lied to get us into a preemptive war that Obama ended. Bush ignored Osama Bin Laden, he is dead now and the new commander in chief sent a Seal team into Pakistan to get him, and they did.

These drone attacks abroad are doing no small amount of damage to innocent civilians!

So the US government should let the terrorists have safe havens or would you prefer we declare war and kill lots of people?
We actually were struck by terrorists trained in Afghanistan and some of the leaders are still at large. We have fought wars that we did not start and in which, believe it or not, civilians were killed.

[Oakenshield]

45. It's less about him.

And more about the sentiment that provoked this thread. The same sentiment that now provokes you to sneer at me. Since you're asking me what I think, I'll answer. Yes we got Bin Laden. And under Obama's FIRST term. That fact isn't lost on me. The President does deserve no small amount of credit for focusing on him like he did. But now Bin Laden is dead. We've killed at least a dozen other high ranking terrorist leaders as well. And now it's time for the war on terror to end. It's time we stopped antagonizing the region with explosive ordinance.

Does that mean I'm not "tough on terrorism". Sure. I'll freely admit I have no stomach for war, especially when the objective of said war has arguably already been achieved.

[riqster]

78. We elected a Chicago lawyer to clean up a mess.

And that is all we did. The rest is projections people cast upon the screen, and are not Obama's fault if he lacks sufficient sparkly fairy dust and rainbow ponies to magically transform America.

The man is a lawyer who gives a great speech. He cares and tries his best. That is all he ever was, is, and will ever be. That is what I voted for.

[Cha]

23. yeah, instead you'd rather piss on a thread that is bringing

attention to our Climate Change Crisis.

[Oakenshield]

39. It has to be one or the other for you doesn't it?

Either you love the President, or you're just a hater. Sorry to burst your bubble but reality is more complicated. Yes climate change is a very important issue, and its consequences threaten us all more than we can probably imagine. Yes it is encouraging that we now have a president that is willing to acknowledge that climate change is actually REAL. But he's one of us! His acknowledgement is something to be expected. It just seems to me that we could do with less praise and more constructive criticism.

[Cha]

40. Sorry, you're pissing on a climate change Crisis thread.

[NoOneMan]

32. Sure they have. What have they done about it?

You'll get blank stares if you deny climate change in Canada. Its a given. Its science. Hey, thats also where the Tar Sands are.

America has this myth that is we just all accept the science, magically something will change. No. Nothing will change. This fake debate is just a charade. Its akin to a theodicy to explain why we are doing nothing. Yes, its because the "bad guys". The Republicans. Thats why we run our meters cooling our homes in the summertime.

[Oakenshield]

54. They've arguably done MORE than we have.

By 2030 Norway will be carbon neutral. Neutral. Now tell me again how they're not doing enough. I'll admit however Iceland takes a better approach given their brilliant use of geothermal energy. And are you really trivializing Republicans? I suppose you think Fracking isn't a big deal either?

[NoOneMan]

55. Doubt it.

I seriously doubt the entire notion of carbon neutral production due to outsourced production centers that are ignored by today's carbon accounting.

Fracking is ridiculous. And yes, I am trivializing Republicans. They aren't the main problem; infinite growth civilization is. They are merely a product of such to sustain the system (as many other factions/actors are as well).

[Oakenshield]

57. Infinite Growth Civilization?

While you're definitely getting at the root of the problem, I really have no idea what you might do to fix it. Governments won't adopt Chinese style one-child policies unless they are overwhelmed by the reality that the present course is unsustainable.

[NoOneMan]

62. Then we are screwed

Because the present course is unsustainable. What we require is a paradigm shift. A complete restructuring of how we produce, work, trade and structure our lives. If we cannot figure out how to immediately coexist in a way that promotes environmental homeostasis, the environment will fail to sustain us much longer

[Oakenshield]

64. Indeed we are.

And we're screwed because we're not taking science seriously enough..which brings us full circle. Which party deliberately is anti-science? Republicans aren't THE big bad, but they're definitely up there.

[NoOneMan]

67. Oh brother

Explain to me why predominantly pro-science populations engage in unsustainable, earth-exploiting pollution.

Our modern economies demand that we perpetually increase the velocity of energy in the system. It doesn't matter what we believe (in science or otherwise). We cannot make this growth friendly. We cannot make this exploitation (which produces human wealth) benign.

Its change or die. We need to stop using politics as a crutch. The answers aren't there

[Oakenshield]

71. While I admire your clarity of purpose...

It isn't realistic. Let's suppose for a moment you didn't have conservative politicians trying to sabotage you at every turn. You still have to convince not just moderates, but people all across rural America that they must abandon the prospect of living their lives as their ancestors did. You have to impress upon them the big and loud lifestyle is going to get us all killed. That's going to sound like killing the "American Dream" to them. To call it a daunting task would be putting it very lightly.

All we can do is try to shift the political climate as leftwards as possible, and hope we can make enough of a difference that when the shit really hits the fan we'll at least be somewhat prepared.

[NoOneMan]

73. Crying about Republicans aint realistic

Other countries don't have them. Other countries engage in the same mindless bullshit. Its how humans decided to live.


Climate change is not a political problem. Its a problem of civilization itself, that transcends borders

[Oakenshield]

74. You're right for the most part.

But the only way we're going to get anything done, is by using the political system we have at out disposal. And with that reality comes complications like a regressive political opponent. We're going in circles now so I'll leave it at that. Good day.

[hatrack]

75. It's not about the realism of politics (such as it is . . . )

It's about the physical world, which generally does not respond to our wishes, exhortations, desires or ideologies. It does respond to our physically acting upon it, but only up to a point.

Half-hearted genuflections in the general direction of what keeps us going - the physical world, the biosphere, the atmosphere, the ocean and all they produce to keep us alive - isn't, in the long run, going to do the job.

We are resource-constrained, the Earth is finite, climate destabilization is accelerating rapidly, population is the core issue. It doesn't matter a damn whether these simple self-evident propositions offend, irritate or contradict cornucopians and "realists" of the left, right or center, or whether they make it harder to maintain images of Shining Cities On Hills and all of that happy horseshit.

Business as usual ends sooner, and voluntarily, and painfully, or it ends somewhat later, and involuntarily, and in gouts of blood and global agony.

[brett_jv]

68. (I believe) that actually referred to economic growth ...

Of course, population growth is a big underlying factor in terms of the volume of CO2 that's being generated as a whole ... but quite a few 'climate change activists' are, shall we say, 'focused' on the notion we'll probably never (willingly) do much of anything to curb the endless growth of our carbon output until we collectively refactor our world's economies so that they do not require endless growth ... in order to not collapse.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. He's right. The Earth is round, climate change is happening and gravity exists.

However, Dana Rorhabacher, Republican on the House Science Committee, says that climate change is a "complete fraud".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/12/dana-rohrabacher-global-warming_n_3743390.html

Next up, Rorhabacher exits a tenth story window to test the theory of gravity. As he passed the 7th floor, he was heard to say "See! It's only a theory!"

[tjwash]

9. Hmm...that would explain the fox news breaking alerts I just saw.

**Gravity theory debunked. Expert blue-chip scientific panel on at 6pm to explain how the the earth sucks.
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**Exclusive interview with the carnival-cruise ship captain that almost sailed his ship of the edge of the world coming at 7pm
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**Special appearance by Pat Robertson at 8pm to discuss how the lack of SUV's on Mars puts the final coffin-nail in the "theory" that "climate-change" is really happening.

[AtheistCrusader]

12. Not true. The Earth is an oblate spheroid with localized gravatational anomalies.

(Also called a geoid)

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. 'round' does not mean 'perfectly spherical'

"The Earth is round" is perfectly accurate.

[AtheistCrusader]

26. American Heritage Dictionary sez: Being such that every part of the surface or the circumference is

equidistant from the center





(I am, of course, joking around)

[muriel_volestrangler]

29. And the OED says:

"Having the form of a sphere; shaped like a ball, spherical; (also) more or less spherical in shape; globular."
...
"Designating an object which is distinguished from others of the same type by having a (more or less) circular, cylindrical, or rounded shape." (my italics)

Realistic dictionaries are superior.

Yes, I know you were joking.

[AtheistCrusader]

31. Oxford English for the win!

I'm glad you picked up on that though. A whole lot of sarcasm detectors around here could use some recalibration.

[Igel]

83. Well, that's the problem, isn't it?

Because I teach that the Earth isn't round. The kids object strenuously. But it isn't round--not perfectly. And that matters for a variety of reasons. For example, when you start working out atmospheric circulation in really great detail for things like, oh, climate models. Or measure sea level changes. All those annoying science things.

But why do the kids object? Because usually when people hear "The Earth isn't round" they believe they hear the assertion "The Earth is flat". That's what they've been conditioned to believe are the only two choices and to mercilessly mock the flat-Earth view. Why we even think that in medieval Europe it was the dominant view when that's not really the case (we believe the way the Renaissance mocked the medieval folk, sort of the way teenagers uncomprehendingly mock their parents just to make themselves seem wiser).

It's really hard to break that many years' conditioning.

Esp. when the desire to mock one view so perfectly coincides with the inborn desire to mock everybody on the other side of a group boundary.

The cognitive dissonance is like a Great Wall when those kinds of conditionings all line up. (And it's fitted with a Whovian perception filter so not only can't we get through it or over it, we strenuously avoid even noticing it.)

I don't think the assertion, while denying climate change, was putting forth a flat-Earth view. I just don't. Even the uber-extreme loonies I've known (hollow-Earthers, if you will) didn't go that far.

[tridim]

47. Impeach!!!!!1111

[Iliyah]

24. Well from the pictures of

earth from above it looks round - LOL

He is correct and climate change is real. 10 points!

[PDittie]

25. Not quite the punching back I might hope for

But throwing an elbow after so many years of attacks from the ignorant (Hello, Missouri Rodeo!) qualifies as a start.

[NoOneMan]

30. Climate change is happening.... We aren't really going to do anything about it.... Learn to eat bugs

[Just Saying]

35. Good!

They need to call the deniers on their crap. I'm so tired of listening to amateur climate experts spew.

[sheshe2]

49. Kicked and Recommending!

[TinkerTot55]

50. It's great that the tweets went out......

...but I'd like to see that backed up with some action, serious action.
That may only be possible with the removal of the obstructionists in Congress.

2014, anyone? Can we back candidates who believe in Science and Reason?
Corporatists, begone.

[Iliyah]

56. Here here!

Can the USA vote in a congress that gives a shit about the American people? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

[obxhead]

58. and I will continue to talk about it and do nothing

Hoping that my base voters will blame it on Republicans.

[AverageJoe90]

60. The sky is blue. Water is wet. The U.S. is in North America. Beaches are sandy.

Humans are not apes. Death Valley is really hot. Canada is cold in the winter. Obama is President. Humans are not at risk for total extinction. Edward Snowden is not a genuine whistleblower. FOX News is agitprop. Dubya is a moron.....and so on and so forth.

[Benton D Struckcheon]

76. Yeah yeah yeah. Those last two might be right,

but the first clearly isn't: the Earth sucks.

[ZombieHorde]

77. I approve of that tweet. nt

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

80. Yes, We SCAN!

[Skittles]

82. like that

[Kingofalldems]

84. Ha ha freepers.

[eShirl]

85. Keep going. Cannabis has medical uses.