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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:04 PM Aug 2013

GOP Congressman: Probably Have Enough Votes In House To Impeach Obama

Source: The Daily Caller

Rep. Blake Farenthold, a Texas Republican, told constituents at a townhall over the weekend that the House of Representatives would “probably” have enough votes to impeach President Obama.

Farenthold was in Luling, Texas on Saturday, and after stepping past a question about the president’s birth certificate, suggested that the House would have the votes to impeach the president, but the Democratic Senate would kill the effort.

“A question I get a lot — ‘If everybody’s so unhappy with what the president’s doing, why don’t you impeach him?’” Farenthold said.

“I’ll give you a real frank answer about that. If we were to impeach the president tomorrow, you could probably get the votes in the House of Representatives to do it, but it would go to the Senate and he wouldn’t be convicted.”




Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/12/gop-congressman-probably-have-enough-votes-in-house-to-impeach-obama-video/



A new low even for the House wingnuts!
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GOP Congressman: Probably Have Enough Votes In House To Impeach Obama (Original Post) big_dog Aug 2013 OP
''Convicted''??? of what? YOHABLO Aug 2013 #1
Presidenting while black, obviously. tridim Aug 2013 #3
Ever notice GP6971 Aug 2013 #47
You are forgetting the America Rule on race, a rule that existed from the 1600s to this day happyslug Aug 2013 #59
Thank you Sandy one Aug 2013 #63
Continuing Stupid's bad policies, of course Warpy Aug 2013 #55
I think they put their cart before the horse. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #56
On what charge? tanyev Aug 2013 #2
Benghazi!!! Enrique Aug 2013 #10
NSA! NSA! NSA! SoapBox Aug 2013 #12
Assault ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #15
Supporting Obamacare is an impeachable offense in Republican quarters. Kablooie Aug 2013 #60
For lying! Wednesdays Aug 2013 #73
Impeach him for what? City Lights Aug 2013 #4
For being successful by doing just the opposite of what the Rebuplicans wanted. DCBob Aug 2013 #35
"PWB" (See reply #3) FailureToCommunicate Aug 2013 #65
God Damn I Hate Living In Texas BlueManFan Aug 2013 #5
A lot of people in Texas don't know this, but it is legal to move away. olddad56 Aug 2013 #82
Nope, I'm going to live here long enough to see this place turn blue. I'm no quitter!!!!!!! BlueManFan Aug 2013 #84
Well, okay . . . OldRedneck Aug 2013 #6
the House will apoint the Missouri State rodeo clown as prosecuter big_dog Aug 2013 #8
Oh shit--which makes me a Texas hater, which is probably similar to being an "America hater" BlueManFan Aug 2013 #7
Don't worry about it. Everybody hates Texas....even Texens. BlueJazz Aug 2013 #11
I was just in Anchorage... SoapBox Aug 2013 #13
Never Heard That But Thanks For The Laugh BlueManFan Aug 2013 #46
Thanks for the Kind Word!! I feel like the guy people just naturally feel sorry for. BlueManFan Aug 2013 #41
What are you referring to? Squinch Aug 2013 #30
Between (P)rick Cruz and Gohmert I cringe every time a Texas teabagger opens his mouth. BlueManFan Aug 2013 #45
he might have explained that that's not what impeachment is for Enrique Aug 2013 #9
OK if Farthold has some charges, bring them on. That is, if he wants to ensure the demise of the Thor_MN Aug 2013 #14
Yeah. That'll happen. tblue Aug 2013 #16
This is about as sickening as the Obama rodeo clown. DCBob Aug 2013 #17
our taxpayer dollars at work (Rep. Blake Farenthold) big_dog Aug 2013 #18
Yuck blackspade Aug 2013 #26
Ewhhhhhhhh. SoapBox Aug 2013 #31
Oh, Lawd! My eyes, my eyes! Hey, more dirt: freshwest Aug 2013 #48
"Duckie PJs" - good handle wordpix Aug 2013 #76
And just think, this meatball is writing the laws we live by! freshwest Aug 2013 #77
Go ahead - make the crazy more public dbackjon Aug 2013 #19
Of course their objective was the inverse… Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #23
I guess being "unhappy" sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #20
Republicans have enough votes to buy peaches for Obama Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #21
To the House I say, Go For It! truebluegreen Aug 2013 #22
These guys are such shameless tools. blackspade Aug 2013 #24
I believe he was referring to Iliyah Aug 2013 #25
did wonders for bill clinton's ratings nt msongs Aug 2013 #27
Oh, republicon assholes haz a sad.. Cha Aug 2013 #28
Welcome to DU, big_dog! calimary Aug 2013 #29
Your unemployment is bigger too. former9thward Aug 2013 #50
Well, you are more then welcome to your Lone Star State! calimary Aug 2013 #78
I don't live there. former9thward Aug 2013 #79
Oh well. Sorry to hear that. Must have been a different park than the ones I'm used to visiting. calimary Aug 2013 #81
LOL - good one - "Terminator" for Governor as opposed to Idiot-Son. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #68
They should do it. bravenak Aug 2013 #32
what would he be convicted of you stupid repug ? samsingh Aug 2013 #33
repugs don't believe in democracy samsingh Aug 2013 #34
Thanks to the crook Tom Delay had district lines gerrymandered and this is the production we get. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #36
Blake is firing Blanks! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #37
That's why he's on the Viagra train davidpdx Aug 2013 #62
Of course that farce of a House of Representatives has the votes for something like that Posteritatis Aug 2013 #38
Get ready people. If they take the Senate, they'll start Chakab Aug 2013 #39
Yes, they will. freshwest Aug 2013 #49
They still want have the votes. John2 Aug 2013 #51
I didn't say that they would actually impeach Obama and remove him from office. They will, however, Chakab Aug 2013 #53
No doubt. Those a'holes want nothing more than to discredit and humiliate the President. DCBob Aug 2013 #57
Farenthold's grandma would be sorely disappointed.....nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #40
Sissy Faenthold? Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #52
Yeah, Sissy.....or Frances(her birth name). AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #58
I posted this exact same topic a few hours ago and got zero replies. What am i doing wrong? Nt lordsummerisle Aug 2013 #42
nothing. You may have posted it during a high volume time and it sunk down before people grantcart Aug 2013 #64
Why? Because they think he is a ham sandwich in disguise? They don't know on point Aug 2013 #43
I didn't think this was possible, but... pauliedangerously Aug 2013 #44
I can smell the stench of these assholes from here. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #54
The GOP Congress is basicly the Jerry Springer Show on steroids Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #61
Impeaching Clinton The Wizard Aug 2013 #66
Actually... Keefer Aug 2013 #67
Congress can impeach for any reason, legitimate or otherwise Zambero Aug 2013 #72
How did the daily caller become a news source? Left Coast2020 Aug 2013 #69
I wish they would follow up on their luny threats just for once. jzodda Aug 2013 #70
Just need to concoct some "high crimes" to go along with it Zambero Aug 2013 #71
Bring it on then repubs. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #74
calling Larry Flynt (of Hustler fame)! wordpix Aug 2013 #75
They've mistaken the House for Parliament. Impeacment is not a "No Confidence" vote. OmahaBlueDog Aug 2013 #80
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ olddots Aug 2013 #83

GP6971

(31,133 posts)
47. Ever notice
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:13 PM
Aug 2013

that there is rarely any mention that POTUS is half Caucasian? Proving that his detractors only see color

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
59. You are forgetting the America Rule on race, a rule that existed from the 1600s to this day
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:04 PM
Aug 2013

That is, one drop of African America blood makes him "black" NOT "Half White" (Prior to WWII, "Colored&quot . That is the American rule, Mark Twain made fun of it in Pudd'nhead Wilson. In that story Mark Twain had the African American Slave Governess to her master's kid, replace her child (who was only 1/32 African American), for her master's baby. That way her son received all of the privileges of being white, and her master's son received the education of a slave (i.e none).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pudd'nhead_Wilson

Full text at Project Gutenberg:
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/102

Now, today the Census Department let people put down whatever race they think they belong to (and that has always been the rule for the Census department) but the states had different rules. Most of those rules came up in the days of Slavery. Furthermore remember this was the rule in all of the states when they had slaves and that mean ALL OF THE STATES, for Massachusetts, the first state to outlaw slavery, only did so AFTER the American Revolution (Most states North of the Mason Dixon Line outlawed slavery by 1848, through New Jersey had a handful of slaves as late as 1865).

Now, once you determined the race of someone, then two different legal rules kicked in. The "Southern Rule" and the "Northern Rule". The "Southern Rule" was if you were "Colored" you were presumed to be a slave unless you could prove otherwise, whites were presumed to be free. The "Northern Rule" made a presumption that no matter your race, you were free unless it could be shown you were a slave. In the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, the Southern rule was extended to the whole country.

This difference was important, for if a African American was in the South, he could be arrested by the Sheriff and held by the Sheriff till his owner showed up (or he prove he was a freeman, but even then he had to pay the cost of the trial). If the owner never showed up, the Sheriff could sell the African American for the cost to keep him in jail (and thus a freed African American could end up being sold into slavery even if he had been born free).

Note, how the determination of race was tied in with presumption if you were a slave.

The "Southern Rule" was the rule even in Colonial days south of the Mason Dixon Line and the Ohio River. Louisiana was the only state that actually passed a law to codify the rule (this was due to Louisiana being a Civil Law Jurisdiction and unless it is in the legal code, it is NOT the law, unlike Common Law Jurisdictions where rules set by previous judges is the law UNLESS changed by Statute.

While Slavery was abolished in 1865, the legal rule as to race survived. Mark Twain made fun of it in
Pudd'nhead Wilson, for it was becoming the key to segregation in the 1890s.

To my knowledge, no state has ever overruled the above "Rule" as to someone's race. Several years ago Louisiana ran into a problem due to its rule being in its Statutes, but I have not heard what they did about it (and I can NOT find it on line, so I suspect they repealed it as embarrassing). Most Common Law States tend to ignore the rule for it is embarrassing today and in most cases using the rule is not needed to decide the case in front of them.

I bring this up, for most of the people pointing out Obama's race tend to follow this rule. A rule that American Courts at one time enforced. I.e. how much he is white is unimportant, that one drop of black blood makes him 100% black in their eyes.

Sandy one

(24 posts)
63. Thank you
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:40 PM
Aug 2013

A thank you. thank you, thank you. The GOPTEAbirhters are out in force making sure that no republican will ever win a national election. Keep up the good work!

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
55. Continuing Stupid's bad policies, of course
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:33 PM
Aug 2013

Nothing he has originated has been an impeachable offense.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
56. I think they put their cart before the horse.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:51 PM
Aug 2013

They have been spewing so much hate and disinformation to their minions that by now they have created a sense of urgency that naturally leads to the discussion of impeachment.

What he's saying is, that they can't take it any further because the Senate would call their bluff. If it went that far all this hate talk that goes on in their circles would be dissected under the spotlight and it would be revealed that their cauldron of putrid hate is nothing more than unfounded propaganda.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
4. Impeach him for what?
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:12 PM
Aug 2013

What high crime and misdemeanors has he committed?

Talk about sore losers!

Fuck you, GOP.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
35. For being successful by doing just the opposite of what the Rebuplicans wanted.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:09 PM
Aug 2013

and being half black makes it even worse!!

BlueManFan

(256 posts)
7. Oh shit--which makes me a Texas hater, which is probably similar to being an "America hater"
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:13 PM
Aug 2013

which means a jury is going to hid my post and some a-hole will say "Amurica---love it or leave it."

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
13. I was just in Anchorage...
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:20 PM
Aug 2013

and at their Saturday Market downtown, there were T-Shirts that said...

"Alaska...Piss'n Off Texas, since 1959"

I laughed.

BlueManFan

(256 posts)
41. Thanks for the Kind Word!! I feel like the guy people just naturally feel sorry for.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:40 PM
Aug 2013

But look at how we entertain the rest of the country. I wish I could use Lewis Black's "Fuck Texas" skit as my ringtone. I'd feel a little better.

BlueManFan

(256 posts)
45. Between (P)rick Cruz and Gohmert I cringe every time a Texas teabagger opens his mouth.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:46 PM
Aug 2013

It makes me sick to live here and I got in the shit in another thread in here because I said flippantly said"I hate this place", referring to our great nation's latest excesses--signature strikes, drone strikes, spying (even though now I've spent enough time here on du to realize that the government isn't spying). I was labeled an America hater.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. he might have explained that that's not what impeachment is for
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:16 PM
Aug 2013

But he's a congressman, not a teacher I guess.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
14. OK if Farthold has some charges, bring them on. That is, if he wants to ensure the demise of the
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:20 PM
Aug 2013

republic party.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
48. Oh, Lawd! My eyes, my eyes! Hey, more dirt:
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:18 PM
Aug 2013
“Duckie Pajamas” Man/Boy Republican Shows up on CNN – Talks Dream Act

http://inyourfaceradio.net/duckie-pajamas-manboy-republican-shows-up-on-cnn-talks-dream-act/

The GOP. The party that gives new meaning to the term existential nausea everyday.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
77. And just think, this meatball is writing the laws we live by!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:11 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Tue Aug 13, 2013, 05:31 PM - Edit history (1)



I must have ended up on the wrong planet. Everything here is so strange.

~ Sigbjørn Obstfelder

What better proof that if we don't get involved, we will be ruled by Teabaggers. I'm not sure how my elected officials co-exist in the same chamber with these guys and keep their sanity intact. Surreal.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
20. I guess being "unhappy"
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:39 PM
Aug 2013

with the President now rises to the level of an impeachable offense. Imagine that.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
22. To the House I say, Go For It!
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:41 PM
Aug 2013

And just see how it works out. Sometimes you just gotta take a leap of faith, amirite?

calimary

(81,179 posts)
29. Welcome to DU, big_dog!
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:58 PM
Aug 2013

Glad you're here. I always enjoy throwing the "don't mess with Texas" crap back in their faces.

Very sweetly, I say ...

"Well, I'm from California...

"We're bigger'n you.

"Our population is bigger'n yours.
"Our Congressional delegation is bigger'n yours.
"Our Electoral College delegation is bigger'n yours.
"Our Latino population is bigger'n yours.
"Our economy is bigger'n yours - in fact if CA was a country, we'd be among the top ten economies Of The WORLD.
"Our tourism is bigger'n yours.
"Our entertainment industry is bigger'n yours.
"Our agricultural industry is bigger'n yours.
"Our media markets are bigger'n yours.
"Our surf is bigger and better'n yours.
"Our beaches are better'n yours (and cleaner).
"Our blondes are better'n yours.
"Our cooking is better'n yours.
"Our winemaking is better'n yours.
"Our technology is better'n yours.
"Our style and our fashion are ALL better'n yours.
"Our wilderness areas and national parks are better'n yours.
"Our weather is TONS better'n yours!
"Hell, even our bimbos are better'n yours (hellooooooo Kardashians!)!
"And our governors are better'n yours. Our present governor is compassionate and brilliant and educated by the Jesuits and would NEVER find himself in a public forum where he got so tongue-tied and brain-farted that he actually said 'OOPS!', and even the asshole before him was the FUCKING DAMN TERMINATOR. (Beat THAT! Who'd you have before this latest swaggering ding-dong of yours, george w. war criminal?)

"As I said - I'm from CALIFORNIA. And I'll mess with Texas ANYTIME I DAMN WELL FEEL LIKE IT!!!!!!"


former9thward

(31,963 posts)
50. Your unemployment is bigger too.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:25 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Mon Aug 12, 2013, 10:00 PM - Edit history (1)

9.8% v. 6.1% for TX.

Texas surpasses CA in basic education. In California 23 percent of eighth graders scored at or above proficient in math on the National Assessment of Education Progress, compared to 36 percent of Texas eighth graders. For reading, 21 percent of California eighth-graders were at or above proficient compared to 28 percent of Texas eighth graders.

http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2013/02/07/which-is-better-california-or-texas/

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
79. I don't live there.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:24 AM
Aug 2013

I live in AZ. The last time I was in CA I walked by a public park.. There was a sign there saying you couldn't skateboard, couldn't walk your dog, couldn't smoke and listed about five other things you couldn't do. I knew that was not the state for me.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
81. Oh well. Sorry to hear that. Must have been a different park than the ones I'm used to visiting.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:48 AM
Aug 2013

Have a nice evening.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
68. LOL - good one - "Terminator" for Governor as opposed to Idiot-Son.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:04 AM
Aug 2013

.
.
.

Lived in CA for over a year, loved it there,

but happy to be retired now in Northern Ontario.

And Texas sure don't have the beauty beaches that CA has,

nor a very comfortable climate like San Diego.

CC

samsingh

(17,594 posts)
34. repugs don't believe in democracy
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:06 PM
Aug 2013

message - if Democrats do not run at least one of the House or Senate, the idiot repugs will not allow us to have the presidency.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
36. Thanks to the crook Tom Delay had district lines gerrymandered and this is the production we get.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:11 PM
Aug 2013

Bet this same a$$hole voted 40 times to repeal Obamacare in a state with a large number of uninsured. Oh, BTW, we also have Crazy Cruz, Louie, Rick and more. We are not without some one
to make stupid statements.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
38. Of course that farce of a House of Representatives has the votes for something like that
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:14 PM
Aug 2013

If they're unhinged enough to spend the entire congressional term repealing the ACA at about 50 hertz or whatever rate they've been ramping up to, they'd be able to push something like that through. And of course it wouldn't have a prayer in the senate. (It probably wouldn't even under a Republican senate, mind, since that house tends to be less batshit insane as a rule.)

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
51. They still want have the votes.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:26 PM
Aug 2013

You need two Thirds of the Senate to convict the President. You only need a majority of the House to impeach. Two Presidents have ben impeached, but none convicted. They were Bill Clinton and Andrew Johnson. Johnson missed being convicted by one vote.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
53. I didn't say that they would actually impeach Obama and remove him from office. They will, however,
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:29 PM
Aug 2013

start impeachment proceedings in the House.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
57. No doubt. Those a'holes want nothing more than to discredit and humiliate the President.
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:59 PM
Aug 2013

Such pathetic losers.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
40. Farenthold's grandma would be sorely disappointed.....nt
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:23 PM
Aug 2013

(Most DU Texans should be able to get the reference, I think).

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
58. Yeah, Sissy.....or Frances(her birth name).
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:59 PM
Aug 2013

She's regarded as one of the greatest politicos to ever roam the state of Texas by many liberals here, from what I've heard.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
64. nothing. You may have posted it during a high volume time and it sunk down before people
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:43 PM
Aug 2013

had a chance to read it.

You can always reply to your own thread a couple of times if you think it is really worth a second chance.

Also you can post in Politics 2013 where it won't sink but also won't have as many viewers.

on point

(2,506 posts)
43. Why? Because they think he is a ham sandwich in disguise? They don't know
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:41 PM
Aug 2013

Constitution at all these fools despite the lip service they give it.....

pauliedangerously

(886 posts)
44. I didn't think this was possible, but...
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:43 PM
Aug 2013

The Republican congress is actually dumber than its constituents. I never imagined that politics would get so utterly ridiculous...every day it becomes more and more absurd. Makes me glad to be mortal because I doubt I'd be able to stomach this kind of nonsense forever. Beam me up, Scotty.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
61. The GOP Congress is basicly the Jerry Springer Show on steroids
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:27 PM
Aug 2013

And the one who vote for them are the people in the audience yelling 'JERRY! JERRY!"

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
66. Impeaching Clinton
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 10:09 PM
Aug 2013

on non impeachable charges failed, and they don't have legal grounds to impeach President Obama.
But what can you expect from a radical extremist suicidal death cult.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
72. Congress can impeach for any reason, legitimate or otherwise
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:29 AM
Aug 2013

Impeachment is merely an indictment, nothing more or less despite the associations and presumption of guilt that often accompanies that term. In Clinton's case, the charges brought against him cannot be described as non-impeachable (since Delay, Gingrich, Armey, "Youthful Indiscretion" Hyde et al got the necessary GOP majority votes in the House ), but were certainly non-convictable once the Senate took up the matter.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
69. How did the daily caller become a news source?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:40 AM
Aug 2013

They once claimed back in the Spring the the U.N. was going to take over the "internets".

But I'll put up with the ignorance untill election day. After that, we should have some sense of normalism.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
70. I wish they would follow up on their luny threats just for once.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:55 AM
Aug 2013

Hearings for Birthers, shutting down the gov, impeachment, succession.

Why don't the loonies just do it instead of idle threats.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
71. Just need to concoct some "high crimes" to go along with it
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:21 AM
Aug 2013

Detail, details. However, being a centrist Democrat who won clear majorities in two consecutive national elections should be grounds enough!



But seriously, do these imbeciles even remotely understand the concept of "backlash"? My apologies if my reference is seen as being offensive to legitimate but otherwise well-meaning imbeciles.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
75. calling Larry Flynt (of Hustler fame)!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:02 PM
Aug 2013

For those too young to remember, when Clinton was impeached by the House, Larry Flynt, founder of the Hustler empire, decided to investigate the sexual proclivities of those in charge of the impeachment proceedings. He quickly found a lot of dirt and started to publicize it. Suddenly, the House decided not to take the case to the Senate for conviction and the whole issue was dropped very quickly.

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